2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

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Who will win the 2012 NBA Finals?

Heat in four
2
4%
Heat in five
4
8%
Heat in six
8
15%
Heat in seven
8
15%
Thunder in four
1
2%
Thunder in five
4
8%
Thunder in six
17
32%
Thunder in seven
2
4%
NBA Elite 11
3
6%
Skip Bayless is right, Wade 4 MVP
2
4%
ASTERISK!
2
4%
 
Total votes : 53

Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby benji on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:56 pm

z02 wrote:Absolute fucked up bullshit by the fucking referee dickbags. Wish they'd fucking blow their god damn whistles when there's a fucking foul. Fuck this shit.

Oh yeah, and... FUUUUUUCCCCCK.

I agree, Durant should have fouled out on that non-called charge.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:57 pm

Terrible no-call at the end there and the double block goaltending call was atrocious. Still, the Thunder had their opportunities, Westbrook was 10/26 on the night and missed some easy ones in the first half. Glad that the game ended with some drama though, with the Thunder at least making a game of it after trailing by double digits most of the way. They can't afford to get off to a slow start again in Game 3.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:58 pm

Of course, when the Heat wins, it's because of referees or something else all the time. And who kept the game afloat for the Thunder? The very same refs.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Mavs4Life on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:59 pm

Yup, the refs were horrible all game.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby benji on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:59 pm

NovU wrote:And who kept the game afloat for the Thunder? The very same refs.

Looked like Kevin Durant to me.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:01 pm

NovU wrote:Of course, when the Heat wins, it's because of referees or something else all the time.


Nope, the Heat played the better game from start to finish. But that was definitely a missed call at the end.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:04 pm

benji wrote:
NovU wrote:And who kept the game afloat for the Thunder? The very same refs.

Looked like Kevin Durant to me.

And him ofc.

Wow. Loved the game. Intensity, heart, focus, everything was there. This is all the Heat could have asked for, to be in this situation. OKC fans certainly were one heck of crowd. Now going back home for next three games, the Heat should be even more confident.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:06 pm

Andrew wrote:
NovU wrote:Of course, when the Heat wins, it's because of referees or something else all the time.


Nope, the Heat played the better game from start to finish. But that was definitely a missed call at the end.

Wasn't saying it was a right call but was saying there were about equal amount of calls that went wrong for the Heat.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:09 pm

It was not a particularly well-officiated game, not what you want to see at this point of the season. Still a good game, or at least it turned into one in the fourth as the Thunder made their run and it got competitive. This may top Thunder/Spurs after all.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:09 pm

NovU wrote:Of course, when the Heat wins, it's because of referees or something else all the time. And who kept the game afloat for the Thunder? The very same refs.
Officials: #43 Dan Crawford, #25 Tony Brothers, #49 Tom Washington

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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:17 pm

Worse referee: Joey Crawford or Dan Crawford?
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby benji on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:26 pm

Andrew wrote:Worse referee: Joey Crawford or Dan Crawford?

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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:49 pm

Well put, and that's not even getting into ejecting TIm Duncan for laughing and challenging him to a fight.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:18 pm

shadowgrin wrote:
NovU wrote:Of course, when the Heat wins, it's because of referees or something else all the time. And who kept the game afloat for the Thunder? The very same refs.
Officials: #43 Dan Crawford, #25 Tony Brothers, #49 Tom Washington

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... t?id=14698

Good try hater. But it's just an irresponsible accusation on the Heat. It doesn't say much about tonight's horrid officiating both ways. If you watched the game you'd know.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:44 pm

So the Heat win and people start getting serious and butthurt now? Ok then.
If you weren't allergic to reading you'd know that the article wasn't accusing the Heat or Dan Crawford but showing an interesting statistical coincidence. Once you get the Heat dicks off your face maybe you can manage to read the last two paragraphs of that piece to spare you the trouble of reading and understanding the entire article.

Notably, the Heat do not seem to get more fouls called or free throws attempted in their favor when Crawford refs, so the difference in performance can’t be directly attributed to foul calls, which is obviously something the referees contribute to significantly.

To be clear, we are not saying that Dan Crawford is biased toward the Heat, or that the NBA assigned Crawford to this game to increase the Heat’s chance of winning. The NBA assigns referees to each game prior to the series, not game by game.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby RedPhazon8 on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:47 pm

It's hard to deal with calls, that possession for Durant was a foul, and if you're a ref on the baseline you should of saw it. It's too bad though they don't set a system up where refs are only there to keep players in line if there's conflict, other then that let the game play out. They make so many questionable calls, along with flopping, complaining, and pure randomness in consistency. The Heat won and that's that, but it would be a whole lot better if everyone leaves every game knowing that the players determined the winner.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby benji on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:50 pm

RedPhazon8 wrote:but it would be a whole lot better if everyone leaves every game knowing that the players determined the winner.

They did. Durant missed the shot.

If you want to blame anyone, blame Brooks for calling a timeout instead of letting OKC keep the momentum.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:54 pm

shadowgrin wrote:If you weren't allergic to reading you'd know that the article wasn't accusing the Heat or Dan Crawford but showing an interesting statistical coincidence.

But your intetion was. If you weren't allergic to reading either, you'd know I was simply replying to the notion the game was decided by that last call and all the calls favored the Heat. But thanks for clearing that up about the article. Perhaps you could do it beforehand next time.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:06 pm

NovU wrote:But your intetion was.

Nope.
Like I said, interesting statistical coincidence. Like how Kobe never won a ring without Derek Fisher or that Michael Jordan never defeated Kobe in the Finals.


you'd know I was simply replying to the notion the game was decided by that last call.

No, you were not...
And who kept the game afloat for the Thunder? The very same refs.

By having that you're also saying that the refs were very well responsible for that run by the Thunder.


Perhaps you could do it beforehand next time.

Why the heck would I do that. I'd rather do volunteer work for kids in a special school than baby sit a bunch of retards that are too lazy to read.
So it's confirmed that you don't read and comment for the simple reason that you got butthurt.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:34 pm

I don't think I am in a mood to argue with you to death again. Unless you become zanshadow again.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:01 pm

I have lost interest in treating nicely when you reverted to not reading again and here I thought progress was being made.
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:16 pm

Whatever make you happy, brah. Lolz...
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Sauru on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:03 am

NovU wrote:Somewhat goes to show how depleted the Celtics roster is, even with the big 4. Having to believe that Bradley could have provided such a difference in the playoffs.



i am starting to think you dont actually watch the games. you understand a trickle down effect right? without him we have to start ray and bring in pietrus off the bench who took shots away from our scorers. bradley allows allen to rest more allowing him to be more efficient, gives us young legs, and plays great defense(again completely shut down wade in the past). do you ever look beyond how many points someone has?
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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby benji on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:06 am

Sauru wrote:i am starting to think you dont actually watch the games. you understand a trickle down effect right? without him we have to start ray and bring in pietrus off the bench who took shots away from our scorers. bradley allows allen to rest more allowing him to be more efficient, gives us young legs, and plays great defense(again completely shut down wade in the past). do you ever look beyond how many points someone has?

benji wrote:Something to keep in mind is that in both instances Pietrus was absolutely terrible and he soaked up most non-Bradley minutes on the perimeter.

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Re: 2012 NBA Finals: (2) Heat vs (2) Thunder

Postby Sauru on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:08 am

benji always beating me to the punch
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