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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:00 pm

It still sounds like she might have been jerked around a bit as far as being made aware of her future employment status. If the dean failed to issue mandatory warnings or led Lean's former colleague to believe her job was secure only to inform her on the first day of term that she didn't in fact have a job, that shows a lack of professionalism too.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Lean on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:08 pm

A warning would still be better, I think. Even if it's two weeks prior. Thing is: she's not the only one who's having constant tardiness and absences -- myself included. Considering the length of my colleague's tenure too, the dean could have said something about her status.

The dean said it was more of an HR concern. But the poor lady was under her department. We could judge the dean and say that she didn't do anything to defend the fired colleague. Even if it was more of the administration's decision to rid of my colleague, she should have been told of it beforehand instead of her expecting to have a job.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:13 pm

Is there an official policy in place regarding warnings, such as "three strikes and you're out"? If there is and no one received any warnings, then there's a lack of professionalism and fairness with the dean/administration. It doesn't excuse the tardiness but it would mean procedure isn't being followed.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Patr1ck on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:14 pm

Fuck time. I'm "late" more than half the time. The issue is whether they used it as an excuse to get rid of her, which probably means they didn't like her, or a few people complained.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:16 pm

It would seem to be the case, if her being late wasn't considered an important enough issue to be brought up until long after the fact.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Lean on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:32 pm

There was no limit of sorts on being late. I for one, had a total of more than a thousand minutes late on one semester. :lol: That's how much I love the job.

She let it go, without knowing the root of her kicking. But the idea of the administration not liking her is a strong point.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby benji on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:36 pm

Andrew wrote:It still sounds like she might have been jerked around a bit as far as being made aware of her future employment status.

From what Lean provided everyone was asked if they would be returning, she said yes, they employed her for that semester and then when she continued to fail at her job they decided to not even ask her about next semester and informed her to not bother coming back since it's a waste of their time and resources.
If the dean failed to issue mandatory warnings

Why should there be mandatory warnings for you not showing up to do your job? Seems like common sense that you're supposed to show up.
that shows a lack of professionalism too.

You know what else shows a lack of professionalism? Not showing up to your job.
Lean wrote:Thing is: she's not the only one who's having constant tardiness and absences

So?
The dean said it was more of an HR concern.

Yeah, it is, apparently a good percentage of the teachers aren't showing up to do their job.
We could judge the dean and say that she didn't do anything to defend the fired colleague.

Why should she bother defending her incompetent colleagues? She has students that need to get taught.
Even if it was more of the administration's decision to rid of my colleague, she should have been told of it beforehand instead of her expecting to have a job.

Don't expect to have a job if you don't bother to do it. Problem solved.
Andrew wrote:It would seem to be the case, if her being late wasn't considered an important enough issue to be brought up until long after the fact.

Why would it "seem to be the case"? We have a completely biased third-hand account about a friend from someone who already despises the dean. And apparently thinks "others do it too" is a defense for being incompetent.

If you need to be told that you have to show up to work before you consider that a key component of the job then you're probably not someone who should be employed.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:56 pm

If there's a problem like tardiness, I'd expect most employers to address the situation right away, be it an official warning or simply pulling the employee aside and telling them that what they're doing isn't on and it needs to stop. If nothing is ever said then it gives the impression that the employer has a very lax attitude towards tardiness or whatever the problem happens to be.

I agree that employees should ideally be punctual and fulfill all their duties as required. That goes without saying. However, if there is a problem with an employee, it's on the employer to take action whether it be a quick word, a formal warning or terminating their employment. If an employer is willing to let things slide and not address problems with their employees as necessary then there's a problem there too.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby rise on Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:27 pm

I had to buy a new computer. Apparently fixing the screen would cost FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS, so I went and bought a cheap computer instead. I'm really missing my Toshiba right now. :cry:
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby NovU on Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:50 pm

Kindle Fire. I need to get this but Canada is being left out by Amazon. Only way to get this is to through someone in the state. :shake:

Anyone know if there is an offline place where I could get this? Planning to go down to Seattle when it launches anyways to drop by a few outlets.
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Re: The Letting Off Steam Thread

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:29 am

Since this has kind of evolved into a general discussion thread at times and we now have a general chatter thread in the form of "Dear Livejournal", we're locking this one up. Please use Dear Livejournal for all general chatter from now on; good, bad or indifferent.
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