Spirit of '99: 2011 Lockout Discussion

[shadowgrin]

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HAHAHAHA

I'm laughing at Fisher and Hunter, not the dissing of McGee.

[Andrew]

It is kind of funny that McGee later tried to deny making those statements when he said them to more than a dozen reporters (at least according to this) but in any case, it seems fair to say there are players that aren't necessarily happy with how Hunter and Fisher are representing them. It's easy for Hunter to talk about making a stand and missing paychecks when he's still getting a salary.

[benji]

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... fell-apart

As Stern has recounted a dozen times since, not long after what was supposed to have been the hallway conversation that saved the season, something odd and wholly unexpected happened. There was a knock on the door where Stern was selling his owners on the idea. The players wanted to talk.

When they convened, instead of the union's head, Hunter, or its negotiating committee of Maurice Evans, Matt Bonner, Roger Mason, Theo Ratliff, Etan Thomas and Chris Paul, representing the players were Fisher, Kessler and three superstars who had been to very few of the meetings at all: Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Kobe Bryant.

A bad sign: Pierce was still wearing his backpack.

The players had two pieces of news that shocked the league: 50/50 was not good enough. And there was nothing further to discuss.

"We had a large group of owners," remembers Silver, "who had flown in and were prepared to negotiate around the clock."

More importantly, they had made an aggressively good offer, the NBA's leaders thought, the one that might get them in trouble with their owners but surely not with the players.

And players who hadn't even been in the talks, and who seemed not to be on the same page with the crew that had endured more than 40 meetings, had been the ones to reject the best offer the league was likely to have, and to end the best day of negotiations prematurely.

What in the hell was going on? How had they so misread the situation? And where was Hunter? Who spoke for the union? Should the league have been negotiating with Garnett all along?

[Andrew]

So much for the owners being the only greedy and unreasonable ones here.

[NovU]

Kobe violated the dress code. The league should fine him.

[_Steve_]

Kobe violated the dress code. The league should fine him.

He might not have a job for quite some time, so why not dress like an unemployed?

The refusal of the 50-50 offer might be the deathblow for next season. I really do not believe owners to give away more than 50 %.

[benji]

They offered 53%. The union rejected that too.

[Andrew]

Wow. Guess the proposed cap system still isn't to their liking.

[bowdown]

Damn the meeting with the federal mediator is still going on for over 15 hours? How many millions of dollars in refreshments have been spent so far you think?

[shadowgrin]

Say a 10 man negotiating team from each panel, plus the mediator, that makes it 21. Assume an expensive refreshment that costs $50 each. Assume each person orders one refreshment every hour.

$16,000.

30 man team each side. $46,000.

So yeah, joke failed.

[bowdown]

It wouldnt had been a joke (or attempted joke) if my numbers were actually supposed to be accurate. So your analyzation failed. Fuck off.

PS: you have nothing better to do than be cynical over a little exaggerated joke on the internet?

And yeah I have nothing better to do than be mad at ass wipes like you on the internet. Fuck off again.

[shadowgrin]

Someone can't handle the bomb of a joke he made on the internet.

[deihatein]

The Internet is serious business after all

[bowdown]

yes faggots.

its very easy to just talk shit about what others are saying and make it sound lame. What I said was just a little insignificant exaggerated statement and you chose to put your faggotry on full display by breaking down my statement into something to ridicule. Dont act like you are all cool just because you can stand back and talk shit about what others are doing or saying. Peace.

[Lamrock]

analyzation

[shadowgrin]

What I said was just a little insignificant exaggerated statement and you chose to put your faggotry on full display by breaking down my statement into something to ridicule.

For something that you consider insignificant you sure raise hell defending it.

analyzation

[bowdown]

What I said was just a little insignificant exaggerated statement and you chose to put your faggotry on full display by breaking down my statement into something to ridicule.

For something that you consider insignificant you sure raise hell defending it.

analyzation

yes because if I say it then it belongs to me and I defend it at all times.

[shadowgrin]

[Andrew]

Moving right along...

After the marathon meetings and with more scheduled, they apparently aren't that much closer to a deal being done but some progress has been made on the revenue split at least. Disagreements on the cap system could still derail the talks though and supposedly that was already a bigger issue than BRI.

[NovU]

During a media tour last week, NBA commissioner David Stern said he would consider canceling more games – possibly through Christmas – if a new labor agreement wasn’t reached by Tuesday.

Despite the progress, I hate the idea that I will have no NBA till the new year. DAMN!

[bowdown]

Stern is not attending the meeting due to the Common Cold.


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/71274 ... on-session

So its safe to assume nothing will get done today either?
God dammit motherfucker its the fucking common cold. Wear that white cup on your face which the Asians are always quick to put on whenever something new breaks out, if thats what it takes.

[Lamrock]

It's the flu, and he'll participate via a conference call.

[bowdown]

all is good then

[Andrew]

Talks have broken down again over the BRI, after it seemed as though progress had been made. No further meetings scheduled.

[bowdown]

ugh lame.