Lamrock wrote:Dump Roy with the Amnesty Clause
Andrew wrote:Butler definitely went to waste after the Bulls picked him up. I'm not saying he's the answer to all their problems or that they'd be celebrating with the Larry O'Brien trophy right now if he'd played, but why bother bringing him in just to ride the bench and hit the occasional three in garbage time? If they bring him back, hopefully he gets a bit more of a run and gives them some effective minutes.
Valor wrote:Bulls: We need a better starting two guard who can create his own shot and give us a solid 8-10 ppg, and drop 15-20 on certain nights when needed. As i've said numerous times, if we could somehow get our hands on Courtney Lee without giving up valuable assets like Asik and Gibson, it'll be huge.
Pdub wrote:I almost posted that, Sauru. I had this thought, that if you traded the entire team to the Lakers, they would somehow be a contender, just by being a Laker.
Andrew wrote:I disagree, give the Clippers a better roster (or at least more talented in their top three or four players combined) and they'll finish with a better record than the Lakers. It happened in 2005 and 2006.
Qballer wrote:Andrew wrote:I disagree, give the Clippers a better roster (or at least more talented in their top three or four players combined) and they'll finish with a better record than the Lakers. It happened in 2005 and 2006.
that's only 2 years out of how many? even in their relatively unsuccessful runs in the mid 90s with Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Vlade Divac, and Cedric Ceballos they still managed to do better than the Clippers
Qballer wrote:the problem is that Donald Sterling doesn't give a shit. look at the difference between him and someone who is a fan of their club like Mark Cuban. 10 years ago, Dallas emerged as a major player in the west after a long period of mediocrity... dirk stayed all of these years and they managed to keep very good pieces around him and they finally got the right squad and they won it all this year.
air gordon wrote:Qballer wrote:the problem is that Donald Sterling doesn't give a shit. look at the difference between him and someone who is a fan of their club like Mark Cuban. 10 years ago, Dallas emerged as a major player in the west after a long period of mediocrity... dirk stayed all of these years and they managed to keep very good pieces around him and they finally got the right squad and they won it all this year.
this is a bit of a revisionist historian argument. all the criticisms of Cuban....He let Nash go. Traded a then young-injury free PG named Devin Harris plus 2(?) 1st round draft picks for Kidd (i'm sure benji remembers commenting on this). continuous bad contracts given to mediocre players.. continuous distractions for being outspoken/criticizing the refs....the big contract to a 30yr+ Nowitzki... we forget/forgive him all of a sudden
was there anyone here giving Cuban credit for putting together a title contender before the season started?? i know i sure didn't
debiler wrote:You can't argue with Dirk's contract. His game isn't based on athletics, but on smart moves and his amazing go-to-move. I say he will still be able to pull it off in three years as effectively as today. I think resigning Chandler to a reasonable salary will be crucial for the next season. I'm not sure about Butler, though. Shawn Marion still has some years in him (plus his contract is still running until 2014), and Corey Brewer needs to be developed. So playing time at the SF spot will be limited anyway. Haywood's contract is a total killer. But I can see no way they could get rid of him (and I don't see Mahinmi as a backup for Chandler yet).
hova- wrote:debiler wrote:You can't argue with Dirk's contract. His game isn't based on athletics, but on smart moves and his amazing go-to-move. I say he will still be able to pull it off in three years as effectively as today. I think resigning Chandler to a reasonable salary will be crucial for the next season. I'm not sure about Butler, though. Shawn Marion still has some years in him (plus his contract is still running until 2014), and Corey Brewer needs to be developed. So playing time at the SF spot will be limited anyway. Haywood's contract is a total killer. But I can see no way they could get rid of him (and I don't see Mahinmi as a backup for Chandler yet).
What's critical about Mahinmi in my opinion is that he is already 24 and still not even a key player. I know big men need time to develope, but at 24 as a Euro, you should already be able to give your team more than 4-5 quick fouls (okay, it was the NBA Finals, still).
I like him as a guy though. He seems to be fresh, I loved how he was screaming out loud in the huddle before game 4 or 5.
The Mavs future does not look that bad, the team will remain a playoff team as long as Dirk is there (just like Duncan in San Antonio), but I reckon guys like Beaubois and Brewer aren't good enough to take over that team. Building via draft will be difficult (although Donnie had some good late picks), so maybe free agency will be the answer one day (you never know with the lockout coming etc.)
To make it short, next 2-3 years are secured for the Mavs.
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