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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Stephen A Smith on Shad | Games!

Postby Sit on Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:21 am

Noone is going to giv e me a shot at 34? :P

got some news that might make you guys want to revise your figures :)
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Tyson To Return Against Houston

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JANUARY 4, SEATTLEReshawn Tyson did not play in Seattle’s game against the Dallas Mavericks at the tail-end of their Texas one-two step. Although he was cleared to suit up, Head Coach George Karl opted to keep Tyson on the Injured Reserves list. After his side pulled out a resounding victory against the Mavs in Dallas, Karl sent out something that no one wants to hear at this moment.

“Yes,” Karl told media, “He (Tyson) will be back.”

Karl has committed to starting Tyson despite the solid play of Allen Iverson as the team’s stand-in starter. Karl also quelled rumours of a Tyson deal, “It was sort of a blessing with Tyson out. There were no more trade rumours. I really don’t think he’s going anywhere. Not with our team doing so well at least.”

Tyson, for now, has committed to playing for the Stealth, “I’m still a Seattle player so I’m going to be playing hard every game. We’re on a really good run right now so my focus is on coming out and helping us win.”

The rest of the league is on edge as the Stealth, winners of 15 straight games, look unstoppable and Tyson’s impending return should push them over the top.

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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Great News! VERY NICE

Postby Houndy on Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:04 am

Nice. I'm sticking with what I chose
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Great News! VERY NICE

Postby dare on Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:56 am

16 games :D
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Great News! VERY NICE

Postby |)e8* on Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:50 pm

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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Great News! VERY NICE

Postby Sit on Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:56 pm

You're all seriously underestimating :)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby The X on Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:41 pm

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The Estonian Enigma
Let’s clear up a few myths and delve deeper into the oft misunderstood Martti Must.
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Battle of the best power forwards in the league? Don't think so, Martti is on a whole different level to Pau.


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Rewind back to his junior season at North Carolina, Estonian Martti Must must have been scratching his head wondering why he had taken this path. Must finished his junior season with paltry averages of 5.3ppg and 3.5rpg, despite showing flashes of brilliance in his FIBA international games for Estonia. Fast forward back to the present, Must has made former coach Roy Williams and all his doubters eat humble pie on his way to All-Rookie 1st Team honours, All-NBA 1st Team honours and is already a three time NBA All-Star. This is a guy that struggled to get off the bench in college. It really is a testament to how hard Martti has worked on his game. He has stepped out from the lofty shadow of former teammate Reshawn Tyson and is starting to create his own legacy.

All anyone sees or hears from the Estonian is whinging, complaining and stomping of the feet. I would argue that he is merely misunderstood. I am not sure whether it is the language or cultural barrier, but Must always finds himself on the wrong side of public perception. Along with Chara, James, Durant and Chris Paul, Martti Must is clearly a top 5 player in the league, but he never gets mentioned in the same breath, but that will change. He potentially might be one of Europe’s greatest ever NBA players, because he can play at both ends of the court. He may not be the offensive giant that Dirk Nowitzki is, but never has a Euro been able to dominate and change the game at both ends of the court as Martti Must can. Not only that, but he's not afraid to make the extra pass and hit an open teammate with an assist. His recent performances have even started registering in the NBA history books. Matched up against Jay Gray about a month ago, Must exploded for a triple double, 27 points, 15 rebounds and 12 assists in a thirty point thumping of the Milwaukee Bucks. To put that performance into perspective, only five other players have achieved that feat in the last twenty years. Those players: Charles Barkley, Grant Hill, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James and Moses Chara. Re-read that list and be mindful that it was pre-injury Grant Hill who performed the feat, a player that seemed destined for the Hall of Fame. Lofty company indeed.

Showing that he had no hard feelings towards Tarheels coach Roy Williams, Martti Must returned to Chapel Hill over the summer to scrimmage with some of the new breed of Tarheels. He was joined there by former teammates, and friends, Seattle Stealth guard Reshawn Tyson and centre Rocky Akonnor. Akonnor said this about Must, “He’s my little Estonian bro. He was always going to be a great player, we saw it in practice, it was just about (Martti) getting some consistency and doing it in the real games, and as you have seen over the last few years, he has no problems with that anymore.” Tyson added, “Martti’s misunderstood, he’s a great guy. Sometimes your words get twisted in the media. I know I’ve been there, but it’s great to see how far he has come. The sky really is the ceiling for him.”

Now playing in the Valley of the Sun, if you go to Phoenix’s practice facility, you’ll probably bound to find Martti there. He’s regularly the first in and the last out, working on his shot, his footwork or in the weight room preparing for the nightly beatings and cheap shots that he takes in the NBA from opposing teams. “Trying to prove people wrong. Being the best”, said Martti. But everybody doesn’t see that, they see a cocky European. Asked why he left Memphis, Must replied, “I think I needed the change of scenery. I never got the feeling that the (Grizzlies’) front office was behind me. Whenever I did well, making the All-Star team, 1st team All-NBA, it didn’t mean anything to them, it was more about what I didn’t do, failing the last couple of years to get them into the playoffs, like it’s a one man game and not a team game. To them I wasn’t making teammates better by finding them with a pass when they were open, I was just being passive. That sort of stuff grinds on you.”

Joining Phoenix came as a surprise to some, this is what Martti had to say, “Sarver and Chuck (Barkley) really made me feel welcome. I know that Chuck has been in my situation before, so he was sympathetic to my plight, but most of all, I liked his vision for how the Suns would use me and who they would put around me so we could win it all. I want to win titles, that’s what I’m about.” Asked about his relationship with Barkley, Must had this to say, “we have a great relationship. We actually try to meet once a week for coffee and he's always trying to instill his vast knowledge of the NBA into me. The only rule he has is that since it's my first year here, I have to bring the Krispy Kreme doughnuts.”

From Estonia to Chapel Hill to Arizona via Memphis, the legacy of Martti Must builds.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Martti. on Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:36 am

Thanks a lot for the article. Great read and reflects a lot about what it was like in Memphis. I hope this can earn me some fans on the board as well, as I've been in the shadow of Jay Gray.

Just a wonderful read. :) Thanks again. (Y)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Valor on Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:39 am

Another nice article from The X, but meh, Pau Gasol :headbang:

@Sit's game...i say 21 straight
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby George7 on Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:44 am

I said 21 straight,and I'll keep on 21 :wink:
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Sit on Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:04 am

Martti, you've always been the star. I just decided to portray it differently since Jay has been so widely popular. Thank The X for giving you a bit more facetime and props!

Great article X! :)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby newc on Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:05 am

17 straight and I'm being optimistic about it :P
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Sit on Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:08 am

newc wrote:17 straight and I'm being optimistic about it :P


17 is the the pessimistic option :)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Agent420 on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:00 am

I'm a little depressed after finding out I'm most likely getting medically discharged out of the Army after my second surgery. Instead of eating a gallon of ice cream, today I will read this great story.

I know, I know. I've been talking about it for a while, but this time it's real.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Bucket on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:03 am

Nice article, like it (Y) I am new in this thread but I think you win 20. (Y)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Martti. on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:19 am

Fine, I'll go with 33.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Axel. on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:36 am

Excellent article, X. (Y) Martti's improved a bunch since averaging sub-par numbers in North Carolina.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby megarover on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:38 am

I'll go with 26.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby The X on Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:37 am

The article wasn't meant to say Must is better than Jay Gray, because I still prefer Gray :P . He's not in Gray's shadow anymore, he now stands face-to-face with him as this generation's great power forwards.

I wrote the article to show the other side of the story. As IRL, there is always two sides to a story & the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It's also good to put exposure on someone other than your own player or own team, as hova did with Jay Gray article in the off-season.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Lamrock on Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:58 am

Fantastic article, X! Hung on every word.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby dare on Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:21 am

Great article by X, it's good to see that even NLSC-ers are creating their own legend here.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Sit on Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:53 pm

Agent420 wrote:I'm a little depressed after finding out I'm most likely getting medically discharged out of the Army after my second surgery. Instead of eating a gallon of ice cream, today I will read this great story.

I know, I know. I've been talking about it for a while, but this time it's real.


That's bad man. :( What are your plans employment wise?

Have you finished reading yet? :P

Valdis wrote:Nice article, like it (Y) I am new in this thread but I think you win 20. (Y)


Thanks Valdis. Hope you continue to follow!

Martti. wrote:Fine, I'll go with 33.


I like your attitude (Y) But what about 35? :cheeky:

Axel. wrote:Excellent article, X. (Y) Martti's improved a bunch since averaging sub-par numbers in North Carolina.


There's always a reason I guess... Reshawn Tyson is a greater player. :P

I'd probably argue that Must landed on teams where he fit in on. Chris Hova is a better rated player but is hardly making a difference for the Raptors.

The X wrote:The article wasn't meant to say Must is better than Jay Gray, because I still prefer Gray :P . He's not in Gray's shadow anymore, he now stands face-to-face with him as this generation's great power forwards.

I wrote the article to show the other side of the story. As IRL, there is always two sides to a story & the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It's also good to put exposure on someone other than your own player or own team, as hova did with Jay Gray article in the off-season.


X is for Xcellent! (Y)

I would argue that recently Jay Gray coverage has been too Gray-heavy to please all you fans and a balance of coverage for Martti has been biased towards the negative specturm. It's great that X has written this article. :) I hope that he stays on as Cedric Porter for a few seasons more. (Not at expense of his Wolves of course).

dare wrote:Great article by X, it's good to see that even NLSC-ers are creating their own legend here.


You could be next... the next Isaiah Rider.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby The X on Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:20 am

Sit wrote:I hope that he stays on as Cedric Porter for a few seasons more. (Not at expense of his Wolves of course).

"Porter" Jackson (you always call him Cedric Porter :lol: ) is free lance journalist so he only writes for ESPN sporadically :P
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:28 am

I keep thinking of your favourite Laker. :)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby hova- on Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:30 am

I've never been a friend of Martti (in this D) and his departure to Phoenix also added that "mercenary" style. Still, he's one of the best PFs. Great article.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:06 am

Stealth Roll Rockets Behind Historic Partnership
Houston Rockets at Seattle Stealth: 90-155
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January 6, SEATTLE (AP) – Kevin Durant and Reshawn Tyson combined for 91 points; the highest points output of teammates in an NBA game. The previous record belonged to Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen when they scored 44 and 40 points respectively in 1996.

Not only did the pair reach a historic individual partnership; they also led the Stealth to their 16th straight win for the season. Durant was his usual self and after a string of outstanding scoring nights, he has recently approved of the fan-given nickname ‘Smooth Operator’. “I like that name,” Durant said, “I love my fans and I’m happy to carry the nickname of Smooth Operator. It’s a cool name. The fans know who I am.”

Tyson was overwhelming in his return from injury and after the game admitted that he could have started playing earlier. “I could have come back two or three games ago,” Ty stated, “Coach held me back so I listened to him. It’s good to have a game like this so I guess it was the right choice to practise and slowly get back into things.

Tyson came out motivated and scored 8 straight points to start the game. Two of those buckets were off steals. Durant got in on the action later and made the second quarter his own by scoring 16 second quarter points.

Tyson had 26 points at halftime but was outdone by Durant who had 29. The Stealth held an unassailable 83-44 lead. There were no problems for the Stealth on this night as they continued to cruise in the second half to win the game 155-90.

Stealth captain Jason Kidd gushed about his teammates’ production, “Wow, have you ever seen any game like this one?” Head Coach Geroge Karl couldn’t hide his joy, “This is truly a magical season.”

Yao Ming was held to 10 points as Tyus Thomas led the Rockets with 30 points. Danilo Gallinari, Christian Oliver, Ifeanyi Ndiaye scored 9 points each for the Rockets.

Notes: After 5 straight starts, Allen Iverson returned to the bench and finished with 7 points and 5 assists on 3 for 12 shooting from the field… Adam Morrison scored 9 points from off the bench…


Box Score wrote:Seattle Stealth 25-9 (39 – 44 – 26 – 46 – 155)

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Kevin Durant: 47 pts, 6 reb, 4 ast, 20-23 FG, 3-3 3PT, 4-4 FT
Reshawn Tyson: 44 pts, 4 reb, 7 ast, 6 stl, 14-19 FG, 3-5 3PT, 13-13 FT
Andrew Bogut: 16 pts, 13 reb, 2 ast, 7-10 FG, 2-2 FT
Jason Kidd: 12 pts, 3 reb, 11 ast, 2 stl, 4-11 FG
David Lee: 10 pts, 8 reb, 4-4 FG

Houston Rockets 17-19 (19 – 25 – 25 – 21 – 90)

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Tyus Thomas: 30 pts, 7 reb, 14-20 FG
Louis Williams: 17 pts, 12 ast, 6-15 FG, 2-4 3PT, 3-5 FT
Ming Yao: 10 pts, 5 reb, 5-10 FG
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - The Estonian Enigma

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:07 am

hova- wrote:I've never been a friend of Martti (in this D) and his departure to Phoenix also added that "mercenary" style. Still, he's one of the best PFs. Great article.


He was always one of the best. Funny how all of you forget. :roll: He's been an All-Star since his second season.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Martti. on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:10 am

Holy shit, KD and Ty were on a roll, just like you lately.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Axel. on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:11 am

Don't like the title, don't like the result, don't like Sit. I like the nickname 'Smooth Operator', though. Did you fall asleep playing that game? :cheeky:
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Houndy on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:58 am

A 65 point win. Damn, that's one way to kill an opponent.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:19 am

Martti. wrote:Holy shit, KD and Ty were on a roll, just like you lately.


Yeah man, they could not miss. :) It was very awesome.

Axel. wrote:Don't like the title, don't like the result, don't like Sit. I like the nickname 'Smooth Operator', though. Did you fall asleep playing that game? :cheeky:


I had great joy in DETROYING the Rockets. :P

The X is not missing much in Houston. Then again, we beat the Mavs by double digits in the game prior to this one.

Houndy wrote:A 65 point win. Damn, that's one way to kill an opponent.


(Y) For sure man. I was pissed that my team couldn't play defence though. I would rather hold them under 50 points. :D
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby dare on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:13 am

If Sit was still the coach he would yell at those two players. He don't like some competition around the team.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby #thierry on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:17 am

Wow, a 65-point win and Ty and KD were unstoppable. Loving the "Smooth Operator" nickname. Does Ty have one?

You mentioned AI twice in the recap notes.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby megarover on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:38 am

I would hate to be the Rockets Head Coach and get beat burned that bad. :lol:
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:07 pm

dare wrote:If Sit was still the coach he would yell at those two players. He don't like some competition around the team.


He would (Y)

Thierry • wrote:Wow, a 65-point win and Ty and KD were unstoppable. Loving the "Smooth Operator" nickname. Does Ty have one?

You mentioned AI twice in the recap notes.


I like Smooth Operator too. Came off top of my head.

Ty doesn't have one yet...

megarover wrote:I would hate to be the Rockets Head Coach and get beat burned that bad. :lol:


I'd hate to be Axel too.

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Postby Axel. on Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:15 pm

68 points, Miami beat Cleveland in 1991, 148-80. Irony much? :P
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:17 pm

Axel. wrote:68 points, Miami beat Cleveland in 1991, 148-80. Irony much? :P


I was close. ;)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Martti. on Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:13 pm

Axel. wrote:68 points, Miami beat Cleveland in 1991, 148-80. Irony much? :P


It was the other way round.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Valor on Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:28 pm

Title is fitting, enough said :lol:
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:41 pm

Martti. wrote:
Axel. wrote:68 points, Miami beat Cleveland in 1991, 148-80. Irony much? :P


It was the other way round.


Who was the top scorer in that game? :) Ron Harper was playing there yet?

Valor wrote:Title is fitting, enough said :lol:


Yes. Was wondering what to write but thought, 'what the heck, might as well write this...'
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby hova- on Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:17 pm

Oh no, you've just broken the record held by my men MJ and Pip!! That's bad ... was like if I scored 82 points with Evans to beat Kobe, you would not like it ;)

Apart from that, the Stealth and their smooth operator are rolling. (Y)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:48 pm

hova- wrote:Oh no, you've just broken the record held by my men MJ and Pip!! That's bad ... was like if I scored 82 points with Evans to beat Kobe, you would not like it ;)

Apart from that, the Stealth and their smooth operator are rolling. (Y)


The record for MJ and Pip is more achievable than Kobe's 81 for now. :P
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby The X on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:39 pm

I don't understand how 92 points can be the highest output by a duo :? I'm sure Wilt (100) plus one of his teammates beats that, as does Kobe (81) & Smush Parker (13) or Chris Mihm (12) :P
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby hova- on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:37 pm

More precisely, the highest scoring output by a duo scoring in which each scores over 40. The boxscore of the Chamberlain game is pretty funny. His team mate Guy Rodgers had 20 assists. And the Knicks (opponents) had three guys over 30 points.
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Postby Sit on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:06 pm

highest scoring where both players score at least 40, Hov was ccorrect!
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Martti. on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:30 pm

Sit wrote:
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Axel. wrote:68 points, Miami beat Cleveland in 1991, 148-80. Irony much? :P


It was the other way round.


Who was the top scorer in that game? :) Ron Harper was playing there yet?


http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 70CLE.html

12 guys scored, all 5+ points and 8 guys in double figures. The Cavs bench alone outscored the Heat.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Kubik on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:35 am

Anybody in this league can't stop Durant and Tyson! Nice job. :wink:
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Bucket on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:39 am

Wow, 91 points? Huge game for Durant and Tyson.
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby Menopauss on Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:05 am

Kd's team , fuck Ty , 20-23 from the field , amazing ! (Y)
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Re: A Legend Is Born III - Rockets Get Raped

Postby The X on Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:33 am

hova- wrote:More precisely, the highest scoring output by a duo scoring in which each scores over 40. The boxscore of the Chamberlain game is pretty funny. His team mate Guy Rodgers had 20 assists. And the Knicks (opponents) had three guys over 30 points.

I figured that's what it was but Sit didn't specify that. He was factually wrong with what he wrote :P
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