Hedonist's 2010 Realism patch 5.0 RELEASED bottom of page 5

[IcemanOutlaw]

you can still use and update the stats if u are still using another roster file

-load your roster, drag all and copy, load kova, paste, save... new hedo roster update

[Hedonist]

Preview of what will be included in the next update:

- Landry Fields added to the Knicks
- JWill on Magic and couple more transaction updates
- compatible with Mr.Excitement's V6 portraits

many tendencies tweaked, as well as coach profiles and secondary positions:

Lakers: Artest 2nd pos SG instead of PF. Now Phil puts in Odom as replacement for Bynum instead of... Steve Blake putting Artest at PF.

Wizards: John Wall attacks the basket more and his jersey number is fixed.
coach profile: less fast breaking, less Josh Howard fast break dunks. Their pace is up, John Wall pushing the ball more.
Team tendency for attacking the basket and oops is up.

Raptors:
Amir and Ed Davis 2nd pos C so they can play together and David Andersen won't eat up Davis' minutes any more.
DeRozan iso's & attacks the basket more and gets fouled more often. Hot spots for Bargnani and DeRozan and Jack updated to how they play in real life.

Heat: Chris Bosh hot spots updated, taking his game to the high post more than the low post. + more step back jumpers.

Magic: threepoint shooters tendencies updated. JJ Redick will be running off screens more and the rest spotting up at their favorite positions from real life. Secondary position for Gortat and Rashard removed, so JVG doesn't go twin towers any more in the first quarter. Now at all time they keep four three point shooters on the floor. (Of course if you play with Magic and you go up against size you can change this any time).

Same for some of the Suns. Channing Frye, who already took about 300 threes in simmed seasons, didn't do it in the game. Now he does. The first time after I changed his hot spots he popped two threes in a the first quarter from either side of the arc, one hit and one contested clanking off the rim. Before, he just showed up under the basket or maybe took a midranger if he was open.

Bobcats coach profile: less help defense (back to 50). They gave up too many open shots because the players were all over the place. I played the Wiz with them and they scored 40 in a quarter on me, while I kept them to 25 easily with other teams without playing really hard even. After I changed it they played much better defense, less open threes and such.


Other issues I've discovered but haven't fixed yet or not entirely..:

The amount of fouling.

Curry shooting too much. (15 attempts per quarter or so lol. It was literally hand down man down lol, with Jazz.. then I tried after tweaking with the Lakers and he still had 15 attempts in the first. But Ellis sat with 2 fouls so that may have had an effect.) David Lee doesn't shoot enough yet. Both will be looked at more.

More point guards lack of penetration, and when they do, they pass out too often. Darren Collison doesn't even try.. things like that, I will change.

I think maybe tomorrow I'll release a new version but it will still not be final (raw).

What I would like is for people to play a game or a few and see how it plays, especially the opponent. Do they play like their real life counterpart. The players as well as the team style of play. My aim is get it all more realistic. I haven't tested against all teams though and that will take a long time. Also some of you know some teams better than me. So especially try a game against your favorite team and check out their tendencies. And report if you think of improvement. That would be great.

[Chaimer_23]

Sounds good. And please, when you release this make sure that all files is in one place. This would be a lot better and quicker (I mean in one zip file, not few links)

[Angelo]

I can help you out with tendencies and ratings if you want

[davoor]

Can you also create Samardo Samuels (Cavs), Sherron Collins (Bobcats), Matt Janning (Suns) and Marqus Blakely (LAC)

[Murat]

Good job.

[Dual]

one question: is the roster made by you since the begining or you use kova rosters as base?
Is important to know as kova rosters, wich are great, crash when you use Memphis(trust me i try everything the last two months), if is all yours, and we just has to use kova files, maybe it works fine and i can use it.
Greetings

[Hedonist]

Sounds good. And please, when you release this make sure that all files is in one place. This would be a lot better and quicker (I mean in one zip file, not few links)

I can't promise anything. They're not my files so I can't just re-release them. Most things you need are in one place anyway just not this one..

I can help you out with tendencies and ratings if you want

That would be great!

one question: is the roster made by you since the begining or you use kova rosters as base?
Is important to know as kova rosters, wich are great, crash when you use Memphis(trust me i try everything the last two months), if is all yours, and we just has to use kova files, maybe it works fine and i can use it.
Greetings

Yes, Kova as base.

I just ran a quick test, Association simmed first season to see where it crashes. Controlled a second team to use as alternative to get past the crash date. I thought it was March but when I slowed down in March and went to the Grizzlies calendar to 'make it crash' it didn't. When is the crash date? It was March right?

Can you also create Samardo Samuels (Cavs), Sherron Collins (Bobcats), Matt Janning (Suns) and Marqus Blakely (LAC)

Eventually yes. Don't know when but I'll put them in.

Good job.

thanks

[lorenz09]

cant wait for your updates by the way, how can i change the socks color of the Heat?when they're away they wear white socks, how do i make them wear black socks during away games?

[flam1ng n1nja11]

lorenz. they use white socks IRL though.

[davoor]

Hey can you base your new version of the roster on the newest Kova roster? (just copy-paste your stuff over it, cause it already has more players added)
Hope you can do something like that

[lorenz09]

lorenz. they use white socks IRL though.

ok thanks for the info...nevertheless, how do i change a team's socks color?

[flam1ng n1nja11]

lorenz. You need the full version of reditor for that. I can do one up for you if ya want. Just send threw your roster via pm

[Mr.Xcitement96]

Nice update... waiting for the release to try it out... my coffee's getting cold...

[Hedonist]

Nice update... waiting for the release to try it out... my coffee's getting cold...

thanks for the pm.. but if you would have answered my first question how to get Landry Fields in the game you wouldn't be sitting sipping your coffee maybe.. I'm still struggling to get the new rookies to show up on the rosters... what am I missing?

[davoor]

Nice update... waiting for the release to try it out... my coffee's getting cold...

thanks for the pm.. but if you would have answered my first question how to get Landry Fields in the game you wouldn't be sitting sipping your coffee maybe.. I'm still struggling to get the new rookies to show up on the rosters... what am I missing?

Did you create players in the game? If so then you should just modify them in the create player screen, and maybe in REDitor. I mean that's what I always do.

[Hedonist]

Did you create players in the game? If so then you should just modify them in the create player screen, and maybe in REDitor. I mean that's what I always do.

No I copied them from Kova 2011, then updated my bank of names. but they don't show on the rosters.

[Dual]

one question: is the roster made by you since the begining or you use kova rosters as base?
Is important to know as kova rosters, wich are great, crash when you use Memphis(trust me i try everything the last two months), if is all yours, and we just has to use kova files, maybe it works fine and i can use it.
Greetings

Yes, Kova as base.

I just ran a quick test, Association simmed first season to see where it crashes. Controlled a second team to use as alternative to get past the crash date. I thought it was March but when I slowed down in March and went to the Grizzlies calendar to 'make it crash' it didn't. When is the crash date? It was March right?

Yes it's 6th of march, but there is no solution, if you simulate without playing you can change the team and pass it if it crash, sometimes it dont crash at all, or maybe if you only play till late january and then simulates after that date, but if you play full asociation(all the games), when it comes 6th of march there is no solution at all, as i say i test every posible solution and there is no solution at least as a player, as a roster editor if you know what's wrong i guess it can be fixed.
Keep your good work, i'll wait to use custom rosters till nba2k11. It's sad for me as i cant enjoy your work, at least now im playing with my bro asociations with default nba2k10 rosters without crashes, good enough till 5th of october hehe.

[davoor]

Did you create players in the game? If so then you should just modify them in the create player screen, and maybe in REDitor. I mean that's what I always do.

No I copied them from Kova 2011, then updated my bank of names. but they don't show on the rosters.

You have to do it the way I said. Maybe you could just use Kova's roster and then copy the thing you modified over Kova's roster (or something like that).

[Hedonist]

You have to do it the way I said. Maybe you could just use Kova's roster and then copy the thing you modified over Kova's roster (or something like that).

So I should create players, and then assign them the attributes, is what you're saying right?

I figured that myself, so I open the create player function, and guess what, Landry Fields is already there...

I can't assign him to a team there though..

[Hedonist]

Yes is 6th of march, but there is no solution, if you simulate without playing you can change the team and pass it if it crash, sometimes it dont crash at all, or maybe if you only play till late january and then simulates after that date, but if you play full asociation(all the games), when it comes 6th of march there is no solution at all, as i say i test every posible solution and there is no solution at least as a player, as a roster editor if you know what its wrong i guess it can be fixed.
Keep your good work, i'll wait to use custom rosters till nba2k11. It's sad for me as i cant enjoy your work, at least now im playing with my bro default nba2k10 rosters without crashes, good enough till 5th of october hehe.

Just did another test sim and it didn't crash. Anyway, you could enjoy it in quick matches, or in a Association mode that I like personally, is sim whole seasons and play the postseasons, that way you can through some seasons sometimes. Anyway, if you do some quick matches against the Grizzlies and could tell me if you like how they play or if it's wack would be much appreciated.

[davoor]

You have to do it the way I said. Maybe you could just use Kova's roster and then copy the thing you modified over Kova's roster (or something like that).

So I should create players, and then assign them the attributes, is what you're saying right?

I figured that myself, so I open the create player function, and guess what, Landry Fields is already there...

I can't assign him to a team there though..

Then maybe go to REDitor and put -1 in the TeamID column, then go back into the game and try to assign him

[Hedonist]

Then maybe go to REDitor and put -1 in the TeamID column, then go back into the game and try to assign him

GMTA!

didn't work though

I'm gonna see if that copy-paste thing will fly. I'd have to copy a lot so I'm not sure but I'll give it a shot.

[damonrulz]

Did you change the rotations on the Teams tab, or type their PlayerID into the Free Agents tab?

[Hedonist]

Did you change the rotations on the Teams tab, or type their PlayerID into the Free Agents tab?

Whenever I changed rotations it was in the nba2k game itself.

When I tried to assign Landry Fields to FA I changed it in his ID and in the free agents tab. both didn't work.

But now I just copy-pasted all my data from the 414 first player Holiday through Arenas to Kova 2011 and it seems to work

Channing Frye's tendencies survived! All the players have the ratings of my edits, and Landry Fields is on the Knicks.

So now I have to re-do some of the other players the same things, copy paste, and re-do the rotations and coach profiles that I changed and then it should be ready. Check back in an hour or two because I have to eat also in half an hour.