The Debate Thread: Same-Sex Marriage

[shadowgrin]

What does marriage mean anyway? What is that "something"?

[Paul23]

Marriage means one man and one woman. The instant you pervert it to meant anything else is the instant you remove it from meaning anything.

A homosexual man can marry a homosexual woman so the matter is settled. If they want to marry someone of the same sex they are rejecting the proven body of marriage.

If you change the definition of marriage you undermine the very basis of society. There has been proven by many societies who chose to do so and now face corruption and crime.

[Oznogrd]

Marriage means one man and one woman. The instant you pervert it to meant anything else is the instant you remove it from meaning anything.

A homosexual man can marry a homosexual woman so the matter is settled. If they want to marry someone of the same sex they are rejecting the proven body of marriage.

If you change the definition of marriage you undermine the very basis of society. There has been proven by many societies who chose to do so and now face corruption and crime.

Corruption and crime exist whether or not we allow gay marriage: its not a slippery slope and its not a cause. People kill people, people fuck others non consensually, people are dicks. This has nothing to do with the "State of marriage" in the world. Hell...is 50% of straight marriages ending in divorce not an attack on its sanctity?

[koberulz]

The fact is homosexuality is a disease, and we need to cure it. If homosexuality was natural it would result in children, it doesn't, so it is not something that should be allowed.

Eating doesn't result in children, should we outlaw that too?

[Paul23]

Yes, divorce is a blemish on society and should also be outlawed until the children become adults. Children should have and be raised by both a mother and a father.

[shadowgrin]

Answer koberulz question pls.

[Paul23]

Why would I answer such an absurd question? Marriage and eating are completely different things.

[el badman]

Yes, divorce is a blemish on society and should also be outlawed until the children become adults.

Well, that would certainly be the recipe for some fucked up households everywhere. That doesn't make one bit of sense.

[shadowgrin]

Why would I answer such an absurd question? Marriage and eating are completely different things.

But you said...

homosexuality is a disease, and we need to cure it. If homosexuality was natural it would result in children, it doesn't, so it is not something that should be allowed.

Homosexuality can be found in nature such as dolphins, primates, and other animals yet it does not result in children but it's in nature so it's "natural" so to speak.

[benji]

Dolphins?!? Are you saying gang rape is also natural?

[shadowgrin]

In world without the rule of an almighty being, yes. Add infanticide to that.

[el badman]

Are you saying gang rape is also natural?

Where's Jackal when you need some impartial input?

[koberulz]

Why would I answer such an absurd question? Marriage and eating are completely different things.

Yes, that they are. However, you stated that, since homosexuality doesn't result in children, it is unnatural and should be outlawed. Therefore, it is not homosexuality that is unnatural in and of itself, but an act not resulting in children. Eating is an act that does not result in children. If you maintain that this is natural, you need a different argument against homosexuality.

But, if this sort of logical thinking isn't really your deal, what about sex between two infertile heterosexual people?

[Paul23]

Perhaps you should be educated in an university and then you would realize that you're just making irrelevant comparison instead of addressing the real world.

[koberulz]

Perhaps you should be educated in an university and then you would realize that you're just making irrelevant comparison instead of addressing the real world.

Righto then. Just as long as it's not the one you went to, which clearly doesn't know a damn thing.

Why is homosexuality a bad thing, then, if we're not going to use the 'doesn't cause children' argument?

[shadowgrin]

Perhaps you should be educated in an university and then you would realize that you're just making irrelevant comparison instead of addressing the real world.

That's right! School is cool!
Enroll in your nearest university right now!
Don't have the money to pay for your tuition and expenses?
No problem! Rob someone or sell sexual services!
The important thing is that you are educated in a university!
More important than anything! Even god!

[puttincomputers]

wow! i agree with your point shadow. the idea that everyone must have a degree is crazy!

[Axel The Great]

The fact is homosexuality is a disease, and we need to cure it. If homosexuality was natural it would result in children, it doesn't, so it is not something that should be allowed.

What's the necessity of everyone to have children? There's a problem facing some countries in this world called "overpopulation".

[Wall St. Peon]

Wow, Paul is obviously a home schooled shut in. I wonder what Baptist University Paul goes/went to, because I'd say 90% of universities, at least in the US, are completely in disagreement with what you're saying for the reasons that have already been presented.

[Paul23]

Amazing at the ad homeniums, of course some soul sucker on Wall Street would say that about someone who works hard for America instead of stealing from the people. Nobody should be homeschooled as that allows corrupted views to get into children, while the public schools provide a proper education. Attending a private school is clear evidence of accepting the corporate agenda instead of working for the people.

If 90% of universities disagree with the objective facts then we need to seize control of the universities and make sure they are teaching proper facts instead of propagating myths. What is the point of a university if they do not instill the proper values and beliefs in the student?

[shadowgrin]

From now on I would reply to Paul23's posts like this...

PAUL23, FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME.

[Paul23]

Classy. Someone makes some reasonable suggestions about a proper society and you decide to throw a childish fit. This is why your type needs to be eliminated from the conversation. If someone is going to oppose the government taking action and making things right they should not even be allowed in the discussion.

[shadowgrin]

I oppose the government taking action that intrude too much into the rights and liberties of citizens that's why I posted this...


PAUL23, FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME.

I might even make that my new sig.

[Paul23]

If it is not the governments job to make sure things are right what is the point of the government'?

[shadowgrin]

But different people have different opinions on what is right. Since the government is formed by different people...