well, the cavs are out, where will LeBron be in 2011?

[NovU]

bullcraps

[koberulz]

...uh huh. Care to present a comprehensible version?

[NovU]

diarrhea?

[koberulz]

Is this the part where, devoid of a reasonable way of explaining your position due to the realisation that you are, in fact, wrong, you resort to being childish and taking shots at me over completely unrelated things? Or are you actually going to get around to explaining your point?

[shadowgrin]

So peoples, what's the topic now, is it LeBron's potential or the diversity of his game? It keeps changing suddenly that it might cause me to get mental diarrhea.

[NovU]

There never really was a topic here but bull raging diarrhea craps. Just look at what kind of dog diarrhea he's been spitting here.

[koberulz]

There never really was a topic here but bull raging diarrhea craps. Just look at what kind of dog diarrhea he's been spitting here.

Given that you agreed with 99% of it...

[air gordon]

I wanna hear what Andrew has to say about this, or Air Gordie. Him saying such things can affect Lebron or other fellow FA's decisions, I hafta assume.'

there is some truth to it back when krause was still the GM.

but now consider how many former players are still within the organization
John Paxson
Pete Myers
Randy Brown
Stacey King
Bill Wennington
Scottie Pippen

and still others at some point of their post bulls days...
BJ Armstrong
Bill Cartwright
Redd Kerr
Norm Van Lier

I don't know where this no loyalty stigma is coming from now. Sounds like Wade is trying to make a pitch for FA's to come to Miami

I'm not surprised.... it's a concern now with the way Paxson and Forman have handled business and conducted themselves.

so Lebron James, Chris Bosh, etc don't want to come to chicago because....??

[NovU]

but now consider how many former players are still within the organization
John Paxson
Pete Myers
Randy Brown
Stacey King
Bill Wennington
Scottie Pippen

I knoe Pippen has worked for the Bulls for sometime, but now he doesn't, doesn't he?

I don't know where this no loyalty stigma is coming from now. Sounds like Wade is trying to make a pitch for FA's to come to Miami

I also get that vibe, but I don't want to rule out the fact Pippen and Jordan not having much to do with the Bulls organization in their post-player years. I can understand him mentioning them since MJ was the best ever while Pippen helped in that cause.

[air gordon]

Pippen writes on bulls.com

Jordan wanted part ownership/Gm duties. i'm not sure any organization would accommodate that by firing the current regime and hiring someone with no experience whatsoever... not counting Larry Bird/Pacers. you can't fault the bulls on that

it's not like these guys are banned from the United Center. There's a statue of Jordan in front of the stadium and both their uniforms #'s are retired. Pippen has floor seats whenever he's at games. Jordan gets his own suite when he's there lol

Franchise great like Isiah Thomas, Patrick Ewing, even Kevin Mchale aren't working for the teams they played for. so Lebron James and company shouldn't go to NYK, Detroit, or Boston either lol

and noticed how Wade backed off his comments pretty fast

[Andrew]

so Lebron James, Chris Bosh, etc don't want to come to chicago because....??

I never said any such thing. All I said was that the reputation of the Bulls' front office and the way they've conducted themselves concerns me a little when it comes to them making a pitch to free agents. It's just a nagging thought, I'm not stating definitively that they cannot attract a top free agent because of it.

[Rip32]

The Bulls stuck by Jay Williams for quite a long time after he blew his career. Most teams would have cut ties there ASAP, but that's a situations where they were def. loyal (even though they drafted his replacement the next year ).

[Andrew]

Quite true, they showed a lot of class there. Not so much with the whole Del Negro situation of course, which is fresher in everyone's minds. But as I said, it's more just a nagging, pessimistic thought. I'm more concerned about the Bulls' brass sitting on their hands or aiming too low, as they're currently doing with the coaching vacancy.

[Dan's Brain]

I think the Del Negro situation may affect their ability to land a decent head coach, but I'm trying to be hopeful that it won't enter into the equation too much when it comes to landing a top tier free agent.

[john26]

Chicago can sign 2 max players right? If they can, can they sign LeBron, and then S&T for Bosh? Cause whoever's getting Bosh is getting a $50 million worth of shit

[benji]

Depends on what the cap figure is, it'll be close with it being most likely like 1.75 max players.

And that's only true if Bosh and whatever team gets him agrees to a sign-and-trade in which they also take back Turkoglu. He can sign with plenty of teams outright if the Raptors force him to. (I find the chance of any team taking Hedo's terrible contract back in a sign-and-trade just to get Bosh to be pretty much non-existent. As stupid as NBA teams are, they aren't that stupid.)

[NovU]

Seems like Hedo just isn't happy getting blamed for fail this season. I think he deserves it since he was the big addition to the team, who was supposed to make a significant difference. Rather, his failure played a part in Bosh leaving the Raptors.

I find the chance of any team taking Hedo's terrible contract back in a sign-and-trade just to get Bosh to be pretty much non-existent. As stupid as NBA teams are, they aren't that stupid.)

So do I. I think Bosh wouldn't re-sign if he knows that Hedo Fuckglu is following him to the new team.

As for now, I just don't like how Hedo just wants to bail out, rather than admitting his shortcomings for his shares of Raptors' fail.

[imefimef]

I know where LeBron is going no bullshit, actually he isnt going anywhere, he is staying cuz thats all part of his plan. Mike Brown is a shitty coach who doesn’t do shit on offence but give LBJ the ball and that shit might work in the regular season, but not in the playoffs. If anybody who has ever watched LBJ played he know he didn’t play game 5. He did that shit on purpose like Kobe did in 06(Lakers were up 3-0 against Suns but it went to game 7 and Kobe took only 3 shots in the last 2 quarters, Then Kobe got Gasol). LeBron always wanted another coach and he already has one in mind(cant remeber his name, but he helped LBJ out with his jumpshot or something.) Now that the Cavs let Mike Brown go, LBJ can get the coach of his choice(plus imagine how much control LBJ would have over the coach since he got him there). If you don’t believe me, go watch the press conference vid after Orlando won. You will see his attitude(as compared to last year) and he said very very specifically “My team has some big moves planned for the summer”

[koberulz]

He did that shit on purpose like Kobe did in 06(Lakers were up 3-0 against Suns but it went to game 7 and Kobe took only 3 shots in the last 2 quarters, Then Kobe got Gasol).

Ignoring, of course, that he put up 50 in game six trying to get the Lakers over the line, and was foiled by nothing more than a Tim Thomas three.

[Fresh8]

I believe that Mike Brown was not particularly favoured by LeBron James but I would love to see what happens when James gets a new coach who decides to not show give him everything he wants and listen to every word he says. I'm just saying.

[J@3]

Well I'm convinced.

[Modifly]

I guess the majority of us will remain skeptical.

[Klayface]

So you think Lebron didn't have complete control over Mike Brown? And when he mentioned his "team" he was talking about his inner circle, not the Cavs.

[shadowgrin]

I know where LeBron is going no bullshit, actually he isnt going anywhere, he is staying cuz thats all part of his plan.

[StupidBoy]

Well, that's it then. The media can stop all this bullshit now, we know it all already.