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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby George7 on Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:27 pm

Pargo played half year in my team in Greece Olympiakos Pireaus.
He is a good payer a fast one ,but in the bulls last time haven't done nothing special.
Maybe he's a reserve of Salmons or the other SG Bulls will sign
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:26 am

He's got the mentality of a shooting guard but definitely not the size. I suppose he will see some time there alongside Rose or Hinrich in the backcourt when need be but other than that he's the third point guard on the roster.

Oh, and fire Paxson.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Dan's Brain on Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:42 am

Andrew wrote: Oh, and fire Paxson.


You might as well include that in your sig. Save yourself the trouble of typing it.

In other rumours, the usual Carlos Boozer to Chicago reports have started coming in again. This time in a 3-way deal:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4317515

To summarise:

Chicago gets Carlos Boozer from Utah
Portland gets Kirk Hinrich from Chicago
Utah gets Tyrus Thomas from Chicago

(Obviously incomplete deal)

Obviously, these talks haven't really started yet, because the Blazers don't seem to be giving anything up to get Hinrich

But it would be great if it did happen. Chicago gets a solid scoring big man, and if it doesn't work out, he expires next offseason. Portland gets a solid point guard who can shoot, defend and won't have to handle the ball much with Brandon Roy. Utah gets the necessary cap space to keep Millsap while avoiding the luxury tax, and also gets a much improving very athletic backup for him.

Probably won't happen, but would be hugely cool.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:49 am

I know, but it's no trouble typing it. I was thinking of making it my new sign-off in the Bulls thread. ;)

That's an interesting scenario and at this point, only Rose should be off-limits in my view. I like the idea of what Thomas could be if he lives up to his potential but I don't think they can pass up another opportunity to get a more proven player and as you said, worst case scenario his contract expires at the end of the year and they clear cap room. I say pull the trigger if they get the chance.

But if Paxson is content with signing Pargo...fire Paxson.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:55 pm

Why, you don't like Pargo on the Bulls?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:25 pm

I don't hate it, but I very much doubt it's going to make much difference to the Bulls' fortunes. My dislike of Paxson's decisions and lack of trust in his abilities has little to do with the Pargo signing though.

Oh, and fire Paxson.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:02 pm

Oh, and fire Paxson


You might as well include that in your sig. Save yourself the trouble of typing it.


He's correct. Just put that phrase in your signature.
benji wrote:LeBron is such a choker. And people were talking about him as an all-time great. As having possibly surpassed Kobe. What a joke.

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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:31 pm

And like I said, it's a bit of a gimmick as a sign-off for posts in this thread. I'm sure I'll got bored of it within a week and perhaps then I'll add it to the signature. Of course I might even change that pretty soon if I another TV show quote comes to mind, but until then...

Oh, and fire Paxson.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:35 pm

:lol: It's really funny. Anyways, who do you want to sign for the Bulls that can somewhat replace Gordon?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:43 pm

They won't be able to sign anyone who can step in and fill the shoes of a 20 ppg scorer with what they have available this year, but if there's any chance of that Boozer deal happening, I'd like to see it. I'd take the gamble that Thomas won't become a 20-10 player with a dependable post game and see how Boozer works out. If it doesn't work out with him, he's off the books at the end of the year and they'll have a bit of cap room to work with. I'm with air gordon on this one, basically they have to make do with what they've got or what they can get if they can pull off a trade like the rumoured Boozer deal, then make a pitch for one of the free agents next year. Wade's a player I'd like to see them get, but if the reason he'd leave Miami is because he lacks confidence in their ability to contend in the near future then I don't give the Bulls any chance of landing him at all. At this point I'm not sure the odds he'd leave Miami are any better (or worse, depending on your point of view) than 50-50. But not all hope of righting the ship is lost.

But of course, should the blunders continue you'd have to consider firing Paxson.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:54 pm

Wow, Boozer to Windy City? That's kinda an interesting deal. What if Paxson made it, will you still criticize him?
benji wrote:LeBron is such a choker. And people were talking about him as an all-time great. As having possibly surpassed Kobe. What a joke.

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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:06 am

Well, yeah. I think he'd redeem himself if he made that trade (unless he threw in Derrick Rose and got Ronnie Price back) but it doesn't change the fact I'm not a fan of several other moves he's made.

Though I might ease up briefly on the demand to fire Paxson.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:10 am

Just wait for his decisions. Who knows, he might sign Millsap on a MLE deal.
benji wrote:LeBron is such a choker. And people were talking about him as an all-time great. As having possibly surpassed Kobe. What a joke.

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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby The X on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:18 am

getred12 wrote:Just wait for his decisions. Who knows, he might sign Millsap on a MLE deal.

You must be dreaming as much as Paxson is. Millsap will get at least $8m per year, perhaps more.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:22 am

No, I'm not dreaming. It's kind of a possibility. But I think it won't really happen.
benji wrote:LeBron is such a choker. And people were talking about him as an all-time great. As having possibly surpassed Kobe. What a joke.

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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:35 am

If he (or Gar Forman, whomever you want to attribute the deals to these days) make a good move then I'll certainly give credit where credit is due. I'll do that for Paxson right now, he's made some good deals and it was only a few years ago I felt he should've been named Executive of the Year. But his blunders have really stunk and I don't have much confidence in him at the moment, hence the snide signature and sign-off. But sure, if he makes some good moves then perhaps I'll feel better about the team's future and I might even defect from the camp that wants him out of the front office. I'll still criticise him for what I perceive to be big mistakes though, at least until they're in the rear view mirror.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:49 am

Wow, very much said. By the way, who's Gar Forman?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Valor on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:54 am

getred12 wrote:Wow, very much said. By the way, who's Gar Forman?

the Bulls new GM
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:55 am

He's taken over the role as GM, though Paxson is still there as the vice president of basketball operations.

EDIT: Beat me to it.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Stress Fracture on Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:01 am

What do you mean by beating it to you?
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby The X on Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:49 am

getred12 wrote:No, I'm not dreaming. It's kind of a possibility. But I think it won't really happen.

Re Paul Millsap (getting offer of $8-9m :wink: )

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4320029
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:32 pm

getred12 wrote:What do you mean by beating it to you?


Valor posted an answer to your question a minute before I did. Having subsequently seen his post, I acknowledged that he got there first.

The X wrote:
getred12 wrote:No, I'm not dreaming. It's kind of a possibility. But I think it won't really happen.

Re Paul Millsap (getting offer of $8-9m :wink: )

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4320029


I wonder if the Jazz will match that. If they do, I guess it goes without saying that there's a good chance there'll still look to move Boozer but if they let Millsap go it seems unlikely they'll still be interested in that trade.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby benji on Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:35 pm

They do want Boozer gone. Milsap provides basically the same at less. Boozer is a superstar, if healthy. A team like the Jazz cannot afford to bet on that kind of thing. The Bulls can. I hope they pull off the deal to be honest.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:41 pm

I suppose they'll match then. I certainly would, if I were them.
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Re: Chicago Bulls Thread

Postby air gordon on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:24 am

i'd be happy w/getting Boozer too. such an awesome last name...

just looking at it from bulls side- i don't see Pax/forman trading away Hinrich without getting another competent guard in return. asking Pargo to become anything more then a 4th guard is a recipe for disaster. dusting off Lindsey hunter's not the answer either lol

Blake would be nice, Fernandez even better but probably unlikely.

right now the bulls are like the backup plan of a guy trying to land a date for prom. all they can do is sit and wait and hope Portland & Utah continue to strike out
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