Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:05 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:18 pm
What you do is just wait for some words I wrote and then try being a smart to counter those words
Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:31 pm
cyanide wrote:Jae wrote:You are too smart, that's why you can't understand.
So you have to be an idiot to figure it out lol?Remember, you have to know the ABCs before you can do algebra.
Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:36 pm
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Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:12 pm
osem111412 wrote:God also have evidence did you read about my uncle's testimony I previously post?
shadowgrin wrote:I had an orgy with 100 women in one day and my dick is 40 inches. You want proof? I experienced it, that's proof enough for you and the others to believe it - how does that sound?
osem111412 wrote:I do post many words and you can't even explain those, you just ignore the truth.
osem111412 wrote:Not every people in this earth is for God, In his foreknowledge he chose his people even before the foundation of the world. Meaning he knows what decision you will made before you was born. The bible said it's just like one in a million.
osem111412 wrote:Knowledge is different from Wisdom.
shadowgrin wrote:I will not ask for hard evidence or proof, what I ask of you is to offer arguments that make the existence of a god plausible or possible without the use of personal anecdotes, Bible references, or copy-paste sources (YouTube, lolz).
Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:50 pm
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:58 am
3.) Most atheists had something traumatic happen in their lives. “God can’t be real, if he was real, why did he let this happen to me!”
Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:55 am
Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:46 am
vinceair wrote:3.) Most atheists had something traumatic happen in their lives. “God can’t be real, if he was real, why did he let this happen to me!”
My earlier post. This is very true(for me). I have heard many examples. If i ask someone why don't he/she believe then something like that follows:
"I am poor,why don't he help me?" Define rich person?One can't afford car,one can't afford personal plane. Health is most important in our lives.
"I got into car accident,why God?" I ask why he drives so fast?
This wasn't answer to cyanide's post,but my argument is interesting. Those are some real answers what i've heard.
Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:39 am
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:33 pm
Donatello wrote:Because of course I'll believe it if I see it.
Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:57 pm
Jackal wrote:Shouldn't you be giving yourself a blowjob Maarf?
Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:08 pm
Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:39 am
Andrew wrote:Donatello wrote:Because of course I'll believe it if I see it.
If the afterlife is anything like the life we see now, chances are it'll be the last thing we're expecting and the Scientologists will be right. Won't our faces be red.
Moving the discussion in a bit of a different direction, more towards the tenets of faith and what we consider to be virtuous. As I said before, what bothers me greatly about some people of faith is that they thump certain parts of the bible to achieve their own means or heap scorn on someone else while conveniently forgetting about other fundamental elements of their supposed faith. Or like Anne Coulter, dismissing them as "weak" or "minor" parts of the faith, when they are anything but. To me, belief in these things is all or nothing. You can't have the fire and brimstone without the kindness and charity.
When it comes to virtue, consider these examples:
Man A does not attend church regularly and may identify himself as an athiest, or at least an agnostic. However, he does incorporate the basic teachings of Christianity into his life in terms of love, kindness, forgiveness and treating others as he himself would like to be treated. Whether intentionally or not, he also more or less adheres to the Ten Commandments (except I suppose those about worshipping God alone) and in particular he certainly hasn't committed murder. People who know him would most likely describe him as a good person.
Man B does identify himself as a Christian and a man of faith, with a religious icon a big part of his day-to-day life. Those who know him admire him greatly and tout him as a great human being. He attends services far more regularly than Man A. Truth be told however, he has perhaps strayed from some of those teachings and there are people who blame him for great atrocities, though his exact role in and responsibility for those incidents taking place is subject to debate. He is definitely interested in doing what he feels is the Lord's work.
Now, based on those superficial descriptions, which man would you say is the most virtuous? And if you believe in God and an afterlife, the more likely to get into Heaven? I'm after individual opinions here so I'd rather people not quote oodles of scripture about the creation of the world or anything like that, just based on your own ideology or religious instruction, who is the more virtuous person?
Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:11 am
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Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:24 am
Jackal wrote:Good to know the only pussy you can get is from a 55 year old.