There is NO GOD

I wasn't even trying to be remotely funny.

You accidently became funny . . .

- I bet your a Devoted Christian . . .

"You accidently became funny . . ."
- Good for you then.

"I bet your a Devoted Christian . . ."
- Now that's funny.

Nah, they just pushed a button of mine. Reason is in the post before this.

I can't believe he posted that Youtube video to prove that God exists. Holy hell you have got to be kidding.

And that's from the same nutcase who said science separates him from God.

Shadowgrin you have problems with your nerves?

vinceair you have problems with your brain?

vinceair you have problems with your brain?

No,what about you?

Neither.

Neither.

Why don't you let God into your life?

I believe in God. Dumbass.

Sir, you don't believe you came from monkey? but you do believe you descended from Monkeys?

How is this so hard to believe? If you've noticed throughout history, plants, animals and practically all living things learn to live and adapt to different environments. It's not that difficult to fathom that maybe humans have some sort of relation to primmates from many many years ago. It's not saying "ZOMG HUMANZ R DUMB AND EAT BANANAZ ALL DAYZ" but evolution isn't exactly a linear path. The analogy of a tree branch is used fairly often to describe the whole evolutionary process, with many varying types of primmates that each evolve into different "classes" of primmates which slowly and surely would have led to the develop of something more "human" I'd think.

If human from monkey... so after human, there must be another specie?

Well of course. Humans aren't going to be around forever and I'm sure that humans themselves will slowly adapt and change their biology to adapt to their living environments and become something different. This all is a painfully slow process though, so don't expect to see any humans walking around with gils anytime soon.

This is pretty much how I've interpreted this thread...

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090619124907621

This is pretty much how I've interpreted this thread...

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090619124907621

That was incredible.

"I only answer to god. " *raises hand*
"God made me, I am special."

"How dare you."

Awesome stuff.

That will happen in the future .
Us humans are still the best products of evolution so far .
Wait for the next evolution , if you'll see it .

- Still no answer for my " Noah's Arc " Question . . .

Wow... I felt lucky and blessed. You guys are hopeless.

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I can't believe he posted that Youtube video to prove that God exists. Holy hell you have got to be kidding.

I used that to proved that God exist. God can discern secret of your hearts and he can still heal the sick. Science have limits, there are certain disease that Science or medicine can't cure, but with God nothing is impossible. God said if ye shall ask anything in my name I will do it. If you don't believe in the signs and his works here, even if angels appears in front of you, you'll never believe. I admit it needs to have a revelation and faith to believe in God. I will pray for you guys.

- Still no answer for my " Noah's Arc " Question . . .

GENESIS 7:13
13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
GENESIS 7:14
14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
GENESIS 7:15
15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein [is] the breath of life.
GENESIS 7:16
16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.

I know you don't believe in the bible... but I doubt you are waiting for the right answer. because for you... no right answer to your question.

God said if ye shall ask anything in my name I will do it.

Lord, please give me a pony. it didn't work.

George Carlin:
When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!

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Sorry Sir, Thank you.

You guys are hopeless.

Why should I follow your brand/sect/denomination of Christianity over another? Or over Islam? Hinduism? Scientology? Et al.

As to God. Yeah, yeah, Pascal's Wager. But if I am to believe in God dishonestly and simply out of my best interest, wouldn't He know and punish me accordingly?

And look, I know I keep saying this, but arguing that we should believe in a moral philosophy because God says so, or that we shouldn't because there is no God, are both logical fallacies. We should follow a moral philosophy PRIMARILY for reasons we cannot rationally understand, that is why it is faith.

The problem with athiests, etc. is they often ignore the instinctual factors in faith. Or to put it more harshly (or more true? I report, you decide) "lots of people believe a lot of stupid stuff to be true." (See: Snopes, etc.) The problem with hardcore religious, is they often ignore that people have moral philosophies and outlines for their perception of reality without needing an organized or agreed upon framework. (People don't join groups they are 100% always in lock step with. You can dislike aspects of your religion but follow the "good stuff" or the core. Just like you dislike parts of a movie, of a song, of a political platform, a website, and still follow/enjoy the rest.)

The above, is of course a generalization based on stupid arguments over silly things like "is there a God?" I'm painting with a wide brush. I'm actually an individualist. (Shocking reveal? I report, you decide.)

In the end, the best way is to argue why your belief system is superior, and most importantly why everyone should follow it, from a philosophical point of view. Declaring "God/The Bible says so", "I don't believe in space fairies!", "watch the games" or "IT'S REAL SCIENCE" doesn't cut it. Ever. That can be a part of evidence sure, but it's not convincing.

ISAIAH 55:9
For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

ECCLESIASTES 3
1. To every [thing there is] a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up [that which is] planted;
3. A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4. A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5. A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6. A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7. A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8. A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
9. What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?
10. I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
11. He hath made every [thing] beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bare_assertion_fallacy