There is NO GOD

1 more normal question to atheists.

If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes?

Specialized groups evolve, not an entire species at once just for the hell of it.

Example:

Mr. Squirrel lives in woods. Mr. Squirrel has a favorite tree where he likes to sit, eating acorns. He is happy. One day, Mr. Squirrel gets chased by a bobcat out of his woodland home, and gets lost. He can't find his way back home. He takes shelter under a large rockpile with an opening just big enough for him to fit in. Mr. Squirrel eats some roots, and thinks to himself "Hey, this isn't too bad. No bobcats down here, and plenty of food." So Mr. Squirrel deccides to stay living there. One day another squirrel arrives in his new home. It was a Ms. Squirrel. She was chased by a bobcat, too. They talk and decide to get married and have lots of babies. So Mr. and Mrs. Squirrel have 5 babies, and they live happily under the rocks, not really coming out too often. They find that they don't really use their tails much anymore, and it's pretty dark so they can't see too well, and also they crouch down alot. But they're happy.

5,000 years later, the descendants of Mr. And Mrs Squirrel, and their children, are still living under the rocks. They have adapted to see better in the dark. Their tails are shorter- almost gone!- due to not using them, and they have a more squat appearance because of the tight quarters under the rocks. This is due to their genes changing over time to adapt to their environment. However, back in the forest- the other squirrels still live in the trees- in the daylight; they eat their acorns, have their long bushy tails, and are pretty much the same as Mr. Squirrel was thousands of years before, before he went to live under the rockpile.

That's all evolution is- except grander things happen on the scale of millions and billions of years. Humans are the "monkeys and apes" that were chased by the bobcat and decided to stay under the rockpile... so to speak. People who argue evolution seem to take that stand, of like "How could we possibly come from a fish??" or whatever. But open your eyes- we're talking over BILLIONS of years. Small changes. Even if a very small change happens every 10,000 years- that is enough time for 1000 small changes every million years. It didn't take an afternoon to turn from "primitive creature A" to "modern animal B". It took primitive creature A 10,000 years to lose 1/2 inch of its tail. Then the next 10,000 years to lose another 1/2 inch. So on and so forth.

I feel the need to close this with "now piss off, you ignorant mouth-breather"... but I won't.

Last edited by Donatello on Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:53 am, edited 3 times in total.

replace mr squirrel with a monkey, leave the rocks as they are, subtract mrs squirrel and you have mikemans life's story

We left some behind.

Donatello it's still not enough.If human(monkey) genes changes(all cell mutagenes are cancerogenes) they get CANCER! Monkeys will turn into humans because of this

Donatello it's still not enough.If human(monkey) genes changes(all cell mutagenes are cancerogenes) they get CANCER! Monkeys will turn into human because of this

Wait, I'm sorry, I mean... you're right.

What I meant to say was- "There are still monkeys and apes because the big magical bearded man sitting in the sky put them there to test our faith in him."

Don't you think it's possible that some of the monkeys didn't get cancer thus they remained monkeys?

Don't forget the banana Donatello. It's somewhere in this thread (video).

That cell theory is very accurate.What are your other opinions,i mean how monkeys turned into humans?They can't change over time.If cell reproduces himself too much=cancer.
Well atheists claim that there were only one cell(with who he reproduced himself?),then it turned into fish,then into dinosaur?Haha ABSURD
Fish >Dinosaurus
One day one fish decided to jump out from water(millions,atheists say),but wait?Fish lungs improved because swimming in the water,they found that they can breathe on land too! How absurd is that? Millions of years has passed,why we can't see fishes crawling out from water? We can't because evolution is so wrong!

That cell theory is very accurate.What are your other opinions,i mean how monkeys turned into humans?They can't change over time.If cell reproduces himself too much=cancer.
Well atheists claim that there were only one cell(with who he reproduced himself?),then it turned into fish,then into dinosaur?Haha ABSURD
Fish >Dinosaurus
One day one fish decided to jump out from water(millions,atheists say),but wait?Fish lungs improved because swimming in the water,they found that they can breathe on land too! How absurd is that? Millions of years has passed,why we can't see fishes crawling out from water? We can't because evolution is so wrong!

Have you ever read a book besides the bible?

For a direct example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungfish

All lungfish have two lungs (except for the Australian, which has one) that connect to the pharynx. ....the lungs of lungfish are subdivided into numerous smaller air sacs, greatly increasing surface area for improved gas exchange. Furthermore, while the aforementioned vascularized swim bladders have arisen independently in several lineages of fish, only in the lungfish are they homologous to the lungs of tetrapods.

Because I doubt you'll understand that, IT'S A FISH THAT CAN BREATHE OXYGEN DIRECTLY FROM THE AIR, USING ITS LUNGS. It also burrows down into the dirt/mud when it's seasonal pond dries up. There are numerous other direct examples that you won't pay attention to, so I won't bother. I love a good debate, but this isn't a good one. Go back to church.

By the way, you mean Evolutionists, not Athiests. Athiests are people who believe that there is no god. Evolutionists are people who believe in evolution. You don't have to be both, or either.

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how do you know that in a million years people have not evolved wings?

We will never need to evolve wings, because our minds evolved to the point that we were smart enough to build airplanes. There is no biological need to anyway, even if we hadn't invented flight machines.

How did their extra pair of lungs grow? How fishes got their limbs to turn into dinousaurus? Mutagene again? You didn't pay attention to cell theory either.

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We will never need to evolve wings, because our minds evolved to the point that we were smart enough to build airplanes. There is no biological need to anyway, even if we hadn't invented flight machines.

People who has mental retardation have wings because their minds are not envolved to nothing?Or if i wish wings so much,and if i think about them,they will grow? Fishes said that it's boring to be fish,let's turn into dino's.

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People who has mental retardation have wings because their minds are not envolved to nothing?Or if i wish wings so much,and if i think about them,they will grow? Fishes said that it's boring to be fish,let's turn into dino's.

Holy shit. I'm not even going to touch that.

If you've found happiness in your belief, good for you. However, I'd like to point out that your arguments should probably mention god, if that's what you believe... not just how stupid someone else's beliefs are. That's not a very christian way to behave.

Since you got your "1 final question" for "athiests" a page back, I'm going to as you 1 final question. You're asking for proof of evolution. Where is your proof of god?

We will never need to evolve wings, because our minds evolved to the point that we were smart enough to build airplanes. There is no biological need to anyway, even if we hadn't invented flight machines.

one would think that right, but bare with me. say in the even of a disaster, which would force us to catch our food from the air. you can only get so much done by planes. all i'm trying to say is, if you believe in evolution, what do you think our next step will be? will some grow a dick out of their forehead to show how much of a dickhead they are? and who's to say we are even going to take a step forward, not backward

great picture to illustrate your point of trying to say nothing

Donatello,where is your proof that God doesn't exist? I already said my arguments why evolution is wrong.That is also proof of Creation not evolution.
Huge mutagenes=cancer,simple as that.

vinceair your justifications why evolution is wrong are immature and naive. the mutations don't have to be huge but take place during a span of years and years. for example i don't believe in god cause the story of a man in heaven just doesn't make sense, isn't logical and has major contradictions. there is much more proof on evolution that there is on the existence of god

I already said my arguments why evolution is wrong.

You didn't prove shit, you're trying to be a smartass playing on what you think are weaknesses in the theory of evolution, but everything you spew out is so distorted by years of brainwashing, it ends up being more laughable than anything else. Nothing you're saying makes any logical sense, and that's all there is to it. But feel free to dwell into this nonsense if it makes you feel any better.

There are also a good book about evolution and why is it so wrong,scientific proofs too.I am searching it,but can't find it.Darwin was just a weirdo,that's all.Maarf what changes have you seen,or what changes are recorded on monkeys over past 100 years,200,500 years?Nothing.More human like face,or human like hands? Even if million years has passed,monkeys still will remain monkeys.
Evolution=epic fail.

WHAT THE FUCK. This thread at page 5?

People who will deny existence of god, always will deny everything about religion. To those people, my only advice is, just give it a try. Try to reach him, the god. How will you ever know when you haven't even tried and all you have been doing was denying. Seek for yourself with purest intention.

You still haven't proved God exists though.

Vice versa. People who don't think god exists also can't prove their case.

Maybe in a few centuries, people will have to prove that Harry Potter does not exist, otherwise they'll be treated as heretics.

Vice versa. People who don't think god exists also can't prove their case.

I was talking to vinceair, and that's pretty much a copout.

I didn't say he doesn't exist, he though says he DOES exist, so I want proof. You're asking me for proof of something I haven't claimed.

Donatello it's still not enough.If human(monkey) genes changes(all cell mutagenes are cancerogenes) they get CANCER! Monkeys will turn into humans because of this

You're confusing the rapid unchecked reproduction of mutated genes in one host (cancer) with the process of mutations becoming standard genetic code in a species. (evolution)

You're also aware that 99.9% of all species that have ever lived on Earth are extinct right?

Why does it matter?

I mean really, unless you're a scientist what does any of it matter to your daily life? And if you are a scientist, well, you're probably not going to get anywhere in the practical fields if you can't replicate it in the real world. Theoretical science is another story, there you can just make up whatever shit you want about membranes dirty dancing with each other creating all of existence.

But since you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_ ... ellularity