There is NO GOD

Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?

No, but I have a theory that the universe is just an offspring of other universes.

The big bang happened during conception.

giggidy

Your mom.

It didn't, necessarily. Everything is theoretically "living" in one way or another. Even gasses and carbon. How can minerals boost our health, per example?

Khm,"theoretically" should be in bold text.There are also aliens,you know? But there are no reliable facts,videos,pictures whatever.Mostly only lunatic persons see them.Some people are also robbed How? Google it.I didn't ask about minerals.

You're missing the point.

You are only one who is missing the point.See your first answer.If one has nothing to say then all the bla bla(who's your mom) comes up..

so, i've got a question for you, vinceair. how come you never answer comments on your stupid posts?

Where Jenz?

Aside from you, who created God?

"God exists outside of time. Since we live in a universe of cause and effect, we naturally assume that this is the only way in which any kind of existence can function. However, the premise is false. Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things that could exist in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed. Therefore, God has no need of being created, but, in fact, created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason - so that cause and effect would exist for us. However, since God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence."

No need to re-type it,because it's my point of view.Anyway these kind of threads will never find a answer.Just like stupid xbox vs ps3 threads.And there's no need to find a answer.I am not pushing my faith to others, it's only my opinion.

You'r welcome Jenz

And now explain how God could have created something without dimension of time. Creating something takes time, and without it that's not possible.

Some questions to atheists(Evolutionists)

With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?
When, where, why, and how did life come from non-living matter?
What is so scientific about the idea of hydrogen as becoming human?
Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?

Thank you

Why does it matter?

I mean really, unless you're a scientist what does any of it matter to your daily life? And if you are a scientist, well, you're probably not going to get anywhere in the practical fields if you can't replicate it in the real world. Theoretical science is another story, there you can just make up whatever shit you want about membranes dirty dancing with each other creating all of existence.

The problem with a literal interpretation of the Bible (or any religious tract) as the only set of rules, events, ideas, concepts, etc. is that it's limiting and not the point in the first place. The Bible, any religion, any belief set, is an outlining of a moral philosophy. The stories in the Bible are primarily meant to be illustrative, not definitive. They are allegorical and metaphorical, specifically chosen for a point. They aren't everything and the only things that happened, they are chosen to outline specific tenets. Aristotle's dialogues are not an autobiography and everything he ever did, they are specifically chosen, not to tell us about the man but, to illustrate the core of his philosophy.

This is why attacking the "seven days" vs the big bang theory, or evolution vs. creation, and so forth is silly. As many Christian scientists (i.e. scientists who are Christian, not followers of the Christian Science) have no problem following evolution and atomic theory by pointing out a seemingly obvious point that the "seven days" of Genesis are not "seven Earth days" but instead a representation of all time that existed before man. We cannot disprove a Divine hand, just as we can't prove one. Most all historians agree there was a Jesus, did he walk on water, turn it into wine, and was he the son of God? Does it matter? Does it automatically disprove his teachings and philosophical tenets if he wasn't?

By tying any pro-religion/anti-religion debate to the supposed "facts" of the religious works both sides can avoid defending their philisophical positions on their nature and can instead run around pointing out the flaws in the "facts" of both sides and insulting each other for supposed sins.

Declaring you're right in your moral positions because you do or don't believe in a God is a fallacy. It's simply an attempt to discredit the argument of an opponent without addressing the argument.

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And now explain how God could have created something without dimension of time. Creating something takes time, and without it that's not possible.

Can't you read?

in fact, God created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason - so that cause and effect would exist for us.

God created time,then he created Life.Bible says God created world and life in six days.Maybe 1 day means 1000 years in that case,i don't know.Nobody does.
What's the point to argue?I am a believer,you'r not,simple as that.

Can't you read? How did he create time, not life?
And I'm not an atheist as I said before.

At risk of derail:

Benji, nice post!
Honestly i don't wanna argue about creation vs evolution.Everyone have their opinion about life,what one can't change.Eventually this thread goes down with flame war!Even without faith,bible is a good book,what teaches how should you live your life.Not cheating your wife,not to kill each other, not to be jelaouse,you should respect your mom and dad,because they gave you a life.And you should not steal stuff from others.Life is beautiful and we should be happy to be alive.All atheists and Christians find their answer if they die.Until then arguing to death is pointless,however it's normal to say out your opinion.Having a polite conversation is always good.No need to say "idiot how can you believe that sh.t",and other way..

Khm,"theoretically" should be in bold text.There are also aliens,you know? But there are no reliable facts,videos,pictures whatever.Mostly only lunatic persons see them.Some people are also robbed How? Google it.I didn't ask about minerals.

Mostly only lunatic people believe in God.

You are only one who is missing the point.See your first answer.If one has nothing to say then all the bla bla(who's your mom) comes up..

Your mom is a wonderful and sensual woman. She is always relevant in conversation.

i'm agnostic, i don't have any proof that god exists, neither do i have any that he doesn't exist. i'm just gonna try to lead a good life and be the best person i can be

I think vinceair is just masturbating his ego by brandishing his faith to the non-believers.

"Look at me! I'm proclaiming my faith against these godless heathens! God is proud of me!"


Meanwhile as he argues in the intertubes, thousands of people are dying in some decades old civil war (Africa?), instead of doing something more helpful to his fellow man.

budget martyr. lol.

Forgot about derailment:

Shit, I don't browse this thread for a couple of days and this happens...

Technically my Dad is God, as I am Jaesus. Beyond that I really don't know.

To all believers please stop arguing with the people who don't believe. They have their own chioce. No need to proof that there is God. One day they'll realize that... when their parents can't help, when the doctors can't help or even their money can't help. When no one can help them I'm sure they'll remember this thread that there's handful people that believe in God.

When no one can help them I'm sure they'll remember this thread that there's handful people that believe in God.

Why of course.

When no one can help them I'm sure they'll remember this thread that there's handful people that believe in God.

Why of course.

Because, when your life is fucked and no one else can help, you just remember that good ol' thread on the NLSC

I'd like to think so. Then I'll know we've made a difference in the world.

Group hugs everyone!

To all believers please stop arguing with the people who don't believe. They have their own chioce. No need to proof that there is God. One day they'll realize that... when their parents can't help, when the doctors can't help or even their money can't help. When no one can help them I'm sure they'll remember this thread that there's handful people that believe in God.

Remember guys...

When your penis has been mutilated, when your genitals have been castrated, when your face has been burnt off by acid, when your mom has been shot in the head with a shotgun, when all your money has gone to heroin, when there's a big black cock in your mouth and you don't know why... then you will remember! You will remember this thread, and the handful of people who believe in God in it, and you will realize the existence of God, unless the maggots eat your eyeballs out first!

you should be a suicide motivational speaker.

Damn it Rubin. I was hoping that for just this time, a religious thread will finally have a happy ending instead of gloom and doom.

Damn it Rubin. I was hoping that for just this time, a religious thread will finally have a happy ending instead of gloom and doom.

I'll give it a happy ending for $50, and that's a discount.