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Will Blake Griffin do well with the Clips?

Yes
12
57%
No
9
43%
 
Total votes : 21

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:42 am

MikeMan wrote:Duncan : - 57 % of his attempts Jumpshots - - 43 % of his attempts Inside
Z-Bo : - 58 % of his attempts Jumpshots - - 42 % of his attempts Inside

It's finally good that you know how to comprehend stats, but just looking at one category of stats isn't enough to conclusively determine a player's style. I only limited the categories I posted to keep it simple. But let's insert more stats shall we in hopes of getting a clearer picture...

Z-Bo 3-point attempts this season per 36 minutes - 2.0
3PA this season- 97
total minutes this season - 1757

Duncan 3-point attempts this season per 36 minutes - 0.0
3PA this season- 2
total minutes this season - 2522

Brad Miller 3-point attempts this season per 36 minutes - 1.0
3PA this season - 56
total minutes this season - 2100

I used per minutes to show a level playing field if their minutes are the same.
How come despite lesser total minutes than Duncan and Miller, Z-Bo has more 3-point attempts than both of them combined (attempts and per36) ?
Z-Bo may be a legitimate low post threat but he sure isn't playing like it.



MikeMan wrote:analyze a players playing style . Z-Bo is a low post player . .

He is a low post player but he doesn't show it on the floor.
Stats are only the result of what players do. It's a result of their "playing style"



I would like to discuss with you more about that Bulls-Warriors thing but it seems that you made up your mind about such discussion about stats and only offer the "watch the games" argument.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:50 am

Randolph is a good player but he's way too selfish and overpaid. He also has been not too well off the court with some concerning behaviour issues so I think his value is extremely low and I am not sure it will be easy for the Clippers to find a new home for him. They will be just lucky to get rid of him, and getting anything valuable in return, I don't think so.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:51 am

As i've said before conversation's over . . . So Off Topic
This is a Blake Griffin Thread not a Bulls-Warriors Comparison Thingy Thread .
Keep all the bigs except Camby or Jordan .
Camby ain't happy in L.A. ( someone posted that in this topic . )

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:56 am

My previous post was still on-topic. It contains no lengthy discussion of the Bulls-Warriors thing.

What I discussed was about Zach Randolph not being a low post player that the Bulls need. And Z-Bo being traded is a part of the main topic because Blake Griffin might get no playing time if Z-Bo wasn't traded.
Besides, you're the one that started and insisted about Z-Bo going to the Bulls.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:57 am

That's why I'm ending it .

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:59 am

Yeah, you're badass now. :cool:

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 9:46 am

Since I missed out on all the fun, the reason I say "no thanks" to Randolph has more to do with his reputation as a selfish player, the general attitude/demeanour he displays and his awful contract. He is a capable player and sometimes you've got to take the bad with the good but in this case, I think the Bulls should steer clear.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 10:27 am

i have no knowledge of this dude blake griffin but randolph should sign with an wnba team

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 1:59 pm

Maaarf wrote:i have no knowledge of this dude blake griffin but randolph should sign with an wnba team


Haha . . . that Australian Chic in the WNBA will kick his ass .

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:01 pm

Wasn't Randolph the one that chased Telfair w/ a gun in Portland?

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:36 pm

Quite possibly. I remember him being upset that Nate McMillan dared to fine him when he was late for practice without an excuse.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 3:50 pm

He punched Ruben Patterson in the eye socket, and I believe broke it. And then (or before, you look it up) Patterson threw a weight at him.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 4:54 pm

Ah yes, now I remember. Sometimes the talent just isn't worth the baggage.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 7:53 pm

Would getting rid of Baron and Kaman's contracts be enough for the Clips? There's been some talk of a cost-cutting move with the Mavs, where they send Dampier (expiring after 09-10) and Stackhouse (expiring) along with cash for Stack's buyout to get those two. Or is it really a personnel thing where they want to get rid of Z-Bo so he doesn't poison Griffin?

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 8:36 pm

I'd say not so much, but I'm sure they aren't too thrilled about his contract and getting rid of him leaves the starting job wide open for Griffin without any grumbling and dissention in the ranks. If Griffin could truly be "poisoned" by Randolph as it were, then I'd suggest he didn't have the mentality to be a consummate pro in the first place.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 8:49 pm

Blake Griffin won't be successful if he can't take care of that .
Not mentally tough enough .

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 9:25 pm

randolph is a certified franchise player can't you guys see???

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 9:28 pm

Jackal wrote:Everyone already knows Maaarf is a moron, nothing new there.

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 9:45 pm

I do feel sorry for Blake Griffin if Z-Bo doesn't get traded or something because 1) Blake Griffin gets less minutes with Z-Bo around 2)gets less touches if both Z-Bo and him are on the floor(well not really as long as they ignore Z-Bo and pass it to Griffin instead) 3)The Clippers are still a weak team with or without Griffin

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 9:50 pm

MikeMan™ wrote:
Jackal wrote:Everyone already knows Maaarf is a moron, nothing new there.


awwwww why so grumpy? did i hurt your widdle feelings or did mommy forget to breast feed you today ? :cry: :cry:

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 10:04 pm

Randolph franchise player?,you gotta be kidding me see that's why they call you a moron true he is the leading scorer of the clips but does that help them win NO! because he's a selfish player he has a bloated contract and because of his attitude

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 10:10 pm

Maaarf wrote:randolph is a certified franchise player can't you guys see???


Maaarf - Drunk Or Just Plain Stupid !?

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 10:11 pm

lol!!!!! these guys..... these guys are hilarious.......
anyone else wanna jump in and make themselves look stupid by thinking i was serious? now's your chance, lol

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 10:23 pm

No,your the one who's making yourself stupid by posting an obviously wrong post,that's why people keep on disagreeing with your post and agreeing that you really are a moron(which is obvious even if you are serious or not your still a certified moron :lol: )

Re: Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

Mon May 25, 2009 10:35 pm

lol i must have taken a wrong turn somewhere and ended up in preschool again, and you seem to have misplaced your sense of humor
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