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Postby TheChosenOne on Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:52 am

Well,I think this is the most underrated player in every single nba live serie !
the last 2 years he has been always one of the top 3 overall players and only gets 86 this year after his unbelievable season last year !
players like kirilenko,ginobili or jason richardson (only to name a few)are rated way better than dirk !that really sucks and makes me angry !
I totally understand that KG is rated with 96,he really deserves it because he is the only player who beats dirk every year in the overall ranking !
but come on guys,hands down DIRK deserves at least a 91 or 92 !
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Postby alf2k on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:08 am

you're right, Dirk is top5 in the league. I just watched the game Germany vs. Turkey and Dirk played just godlike.
But I guess that his overall rating is relativly low because of his defense (which isn't as bad as people say).
He finsihed 3rd in the MVP-Voting... 'nough said
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Postby ntong on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:12 am

because he choked in the playoff last year...
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Postby Null17 on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:15 am

his poor defense and a couple of other things might've pulled down his overall rating. he's still pretty dominating in the game anyway. especially if you know how to utilize him properly. overall ratings aren't that important
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Postby TheChosenOne on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:21 am

ntong wrote:because he choked in the playoff last year...


garnett didn´t even get the chance to choke in the post season,because he didn´t bring them that far!so this can´t be the reason !
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Re: Nowitzki rating ridiculous

Postby zmac on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:25 am

TheChosenOne wrote:Well,I think this is the most underrated player in every single nba live serie !
the last 2 years he has been always one of the top 3 overall players and only gets 86 this year after his unbelievable season last year !
players like kirilenko,ginobili or jason richardson (only to name a few)are rated way better than dirk !that really sucks and makes me angry !
I totally understand that KG is rated with 96,he really deserves it because he is the only player who beats dirk every year in the overall ranking !
but come on guys,hands down DIRK deserves at least a 91 or 92 !


Have you played the game yet? Im guessing no...
Dirk puts up huge numbers in the game, CPU or Human.

And for the thousandth time, the ratings are almost just a number in the game....i cant be bothered explaining...just go read one of the thousand other posts about this.
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Postby Air Jordon on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:26 am

ntong wrote:because he choked in the playoff last year...


lol yeah....if you go by that Jason Terry would be overall higher then Dirk...and Dirk would have a 90 rating for bitching
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Postby zmac on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:33 am

Lol :lol:
Jason Terry is nuts in the game though...I played a couple online games, and him and Dirk got like 80 of the 110 points :shock:
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Re: Nowitzki rating ridiculous

Postby TheChosenOne on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:42 am

zmac wrote:
TheChosenOne wrote:Well,I think this is the most underrated player in every single nba live serie !
the last 2 years he has been always one of the top 3 overall players and only gets 86 this year after his unbelievable season last year !
players like kirilenko,ginobili or jason richardson (only to name a few)are rated way better than dirk !that really sucks and makes me angry !
I totally understand that KG is rated with 96,he really deserves it because he is the only player who beats dirk every year in the overall ranking !
but come on guys,hands down DIRK deserves at least a 91 or 92 !


Have you played the game yet? Im guessing no...
Dirk puts up huge numbers in the game, CPU or Human.

And for the thousandth time, the ratings are almost just a number in the game....i cant be bothered explaining...just go read one of the thousand other posts about this.


yes they are only numbers but it shows how good a player is overall!
and if a kirilenko or jason richardson are rated higher than dirk,I think it is just funny !and I don´t know what those guys who created this game were thinking !
have you played the game yet??
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Postby ignatu on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:42 am

Let's be clear, when people play online it isn't Dirk and Jason Terry getting 80 of 110 points, it's the human player using Dirk and Terry.

If the opposing player can't stop drives, then it's easy to drive. If the opposing player isn't stopping the outside shot, then outside shots become easy.

Dirk and Jason aren't playing. You are.

This is one reason I'd like to see a game with more money spent on the game and no money wasted on NBA licenses.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:48 am

Overall ratings don't mean as much this year, people have got to get that through their heads.

Dirk is unstopabble, even if his overall is a bit low (because he has poor defense...).
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Re: Nowitzki rating ridiculous

Postby zmac on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:50 am

TheChosenOne wrote:
zmac wrote:
TheChosenOne wrote:Well,I think this is the most underrated player in every single nba live serie !
the last 2 years he has been always one of the top 3 overall players and only gets 86 this year after his unbelievable season last year !
players like kirilenko,ginobili or jason richardson (only to name a few)are rated way better than dirk !that really sucks and makes me angry !
I totally understand that KG is rated with 96,he really deserves it because he is the only player who beats dirk every year in the overall ranking !
but come on guys,hands down DIRK deserves at least a 91 or 92 !


Have you played the game yet? Im guessing no...
Dirk puts up huge numbers in the game, CPU or Human.

And for the thousandth time, the ratings are almost just a number in the game....i cant be bothered explaining...just go read one of the thousand other posts about this.


yes they are only numbers but it shows how good a player is overall!
and if a kirilenko or jason richardson are rated higher than dirk,I think it is just funny !and I don´t know what those guys who created this game were thinking !
have you played the game yet??

Did you read any of my post...."just go read one of the thousand other posts about this."
In one of those thousand other places, it tells you why their ratings are so weird..... :shake:
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Postby SHAFT23 on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:55 am

Dirk is good overall, but not nearly as good as garnett. have you seen him run? he is fast for his height, but not as quick as garnett. He is quick for his size, but not as quick as garnett.

Besides.......i don't understand why peeps bitch about Dirks ratings. clearly if you can play the game of nba live from 2004 to 2005 and i bet 2006.........he will be dominant. If you can't play or haven't mastered certain aspects of nba live then you expect dirk to outdribble guys at the point guard spot and shoot threes every possesion down.

play him as a power frward or a posting small forward and watch what he does to the stat sheet.
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Postby flipz on Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:58 am

Null17 wrote:his poor defense and a couple of other things might've pulled down his overall rating. he's still pretty dominating in the game anyway. especially if you know how to utilize him properly. overall ratings aren't that important

4 real, too much bitching,for the last time , OVERALL ratings dont mean much,its not inferring dat the other players rated higher than Dirk are BETTER than him, i find it sad ppl havent grasped this concept yet...stop crying if ur fave player got a "lower" rating wen in fact all the categories they're known for are well maxed out
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Postby redmann_5 on Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:58 am

can anyone post dirk's stat by stat rating anyway (fg, 3pt.. etc.) ty
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Postby TheChosenOne on Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:27 am

pj5 wrote:can anyone post dirk's stat by stat rating anyway (fg, 3pt.. etc.) ty

I would like to see it too !
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Postby cyanide on Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:30 am

Dirk has been one of the best players, hands down in NBA Live 2005, despite what his overall ratings say. Dirk's defense isn't that bad, since he's been improving in that department over the years. Overall ratings don't tell the whole story. It might sound strange that Kirilenko is ranked higher, but it's because of his versitality on both ends of the court that gives Kirilenko that high rating.
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Postby Jugs on Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:59 am

Here is the text version of Dirk's stats:

Ovrl 86
FG 91
3PT 80
FT 86
Dunk 68
Steal 57
Block 63
O. Reb 25
D. Reb 89
Pass 37
O. Aware 90
D. Aware 59
Speed 64
Quick 70
Jump 60
Dribble 59
Strgth 66
Hardy 85
Ins.Scr 86
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Postby cyanide on Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:08 am

If you ask me, those stats are very fair.
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Postby berdush on Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:41 am

maybe ;

steal can be 60 or something instead 57 (last year 1.24 per game)
block can be few under 70 instead of 63 (last year 1.53 per game)
passing is the most underrated side of him, i can give like 49-50 cause his passing skills are good for a PF (with 3.1 pg)

by this way he can take about 20 more points and as i think like it's live 2005, this means +2 overall... 88 is fair

other ratings are fair in my opinion... but remember his teammate Terry never plays like a guy with 80 rating...

+2 to Dirk, -2 to Terry (Y)
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Postby Laxation on Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:58 am

alf2k wrote:you're right, Dirk is top5 in the league. I just watched the game Germany vs. Turkey and Dirk played just godlike.


are the german and turkey teams of the calibre of NBA teams?
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Postby fgrep15 on Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:16 am

Jugs wrote:Here is the text version of Dirk's stats:

Ovrl 86
FG 91
3PT 80
FT 86
Dunk 68
Steal 57
Block 63
O. Reb 25
D. Reb 89
Pass 37
O. Aware 90
D. Aware 59
Speed 64
Quick 70
Jump 60
Dribble 59
Strgth 66
Hardy 85
Ins.Scr 86

Anyone see anything wrong here? He's not a big stealer of shot blocker, and not a jumper or good dunker. He has good handles for a big, is durable, his speed is about right since he's quicker than he's fast and not that fast, and he's not a power big. So before you complain, look at the INDIVIDUAL ratings.
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Postby SHAFT23 on Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:20 am

passing is the most underrated side of him, i can give like 49-50 cause his passing skills are good for a PF


what i understood from the ratings system was that :

50 to 60 steady
61 - 70 above average
71- 85 all star ability
86- 99 superstar

well.......dirk isn't a bad passer for a PF, but i can't remember him giving important passes or anything fancy either. He probably passe out when he is double teamed in the post or when he is driving and runs into big guys and a teammate will hit the open jumper. And look at his teammates in dallas.....Terry, finley, stackhouse...those guys are good perimiter players....3 apg isn't that good for a guy that plays around 39 mins a game.

and oh yeah.....his passing could be 40 in my opinion, but his jumping is not 60 . the dude barely jumps at all. he has a 20 inch vertical i think. :? maybe less.
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Postby fgrep15 on Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:34 am

He averages about 3 APG, so he should be at about 47 ish, I missed that part, so that should get him up to about 88 possibly which is about right when you consider hos overall game an athleticism.
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Postby CERVANTES on Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:40 am

I didn't read the last posts, but I will say my opinion anyways:

Dirk is the only well rated player I saw in this game. K-Mart overrated, LeBron (even if you don't believe it) it's underrated, Bowen, etc... I think freestyle superstars are making this game funny but at the same time a little unrealistic talking about players performances. Anyways, if we enjoy that's the most important. 8-) (Y)
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