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Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:57 pm

Jux wrote:I think that feature would be stupid, if u can controll when a player argues with referee. That could lead a reall stupid thing if u use it too often.

But what would be cool is that players act like this by themsleves. Players should have a special rating for this ... "temperament" ... lets say. And if this is high then arguing and technical fould happen with this guy more often.

I should really take effect in palyoffs and in close games. The temperament feature should be like negative rating for the player.

I think that would be cool.


The only problem with leaving it completely automated for the user-controlled team is that it could end up being quite random, even with a hidden rating/attribute. On any given foul call, you're at the mercy of the game. With the way the CPU works on Superstar difficulty, I can just imagine the frequency of user-controlled players getting ejected, unless there's a Technical Foul Frequency slider.
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Postby Jux on Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:44 pm

Andrew wrote:The only problem with leaving it completely automated for the user-controlled team is that it could end up being quite random, even with a hidden rating/attribute. On any given foul call, you're at the mercy of the game. With the way the CPU works on Superstar difficulty, I can just imagine the frequency of user-controlled players getting ejected, unless there's a Technical Foul Frequency slider.


Yep it should be completely automated, but the technical foul calling logic behind it should be very thought-out. Lets say technical fouls per game for the whole season should be about ~1 ... and tens of other things.
But that should have positive effect to ... most extreem perhaps when high tempered player argues with referee and then referee talks with assistant ref and chnges hes desition. Or next time instead of giving offencive foul again ... it whistles defencive foult to other team.
But that should be only a little addon to the game ... not a dominant key feature. + it should give more colour to those cutscenes:)
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Postby number___10 on Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:43 am

(Y) it would be nice, nowdays it is a reality in the nba
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Postby Matt on Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:53 am

although it's a reality it's undoubtedly something the NBA doesn't want.
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Postby NBAFAN2005 on Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:56 am

I just hope that if one day they do put techs into the game, that sheed is still playing :lol:
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:22 am

I'm trying to figure out how they can put full fledged fighting (complete with controls and everything!) in NHL games. Then they get sent to the penalty box, but we can't have a player argue with a ref and get a T?

In MVP Baseball the coaches can argue with the Ump and you can keep pressing a buttion to intensify the arguement, which in turn gets you thrown out.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:54 am

Jux wrote:Yep it should be completely automated, but the technical foul calling logic behind it should be very thought-out. Lets say technical fouls per game for the whole season should be about ~1 ... and tens of other things.


I'd prefer it not to be automated for the reasons I gave above.

Jux wrote:But that should have positive effect to ... most extreem perhaps when high tempered player argues with referee and then referee talks with assistant ref and chnges hes desition.


That doesn't really happen in the NBA.
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Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:15 am

Remy Gambit wrote:I'm trying to figure out how they can put full fledged fighting (complete with controls and everything!) in NHL games. Then they get sent to the penalty box, but we can't have a player argue with a ref and get a T?

In MVP Baseball the coaches can argue with the Ump and you can keep pressing a buttion to intensify the arguement, which in turn gets you thrown out.



its simple, the nba does not want it in thier game. its 3 totally different leagues you are talking about here and if 2 dont care if fighting/argueing is in then thats cool, but the nba wants it out.
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Postby skillzthatkillz on Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:23 am

hey i kno they wont have those kind of technical fouls but i feel that they should or get rid of the audio that goes something like this

if u listn closely if u bump a player or go for a steal they will complain

be like come on ref the been doin it all nite

or call somethin what are u doin ref

other complains

so y not have it its part of the game

either that or take out the audio
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Postby JoshD on Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:10 am

That would be pretty kool...but it won't happen. :cry:
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Postby gorip32 on Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:52 am

i think that they should incorporate technical fouls because if u are the pistons rasheed gets a technical nearly every game and we want this game to be as realistic as possible dont we?
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:03 pm

Once again: the NBA will not allow EA Sports to include unsportsmanlike technicals in the NBA Live series.
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Postby LegoTP on Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:59 pm

It's be great for example if a foul is whistled, there's a button to press so we can talk with the ref, but not too much, otherwise you'll get a techincal foul. :mrgreen:
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Postby Bang on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:26 pm

You know it will never happen. Jeesh. Won't people learn that Mr. David Stern is the most powerful man in the world? (I'm so serious.)
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Postby MaD_hAND1e on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:35 pm

They used to have flagrants at one point, but they seem to have taken that out too. Maybe they could at least get flagrants back in.
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Postby LegoTP on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:45 pm

bangyounh wrote:You know it will never happen.


I know. That's why I wrote "It'd". Did you want I write "It'd be great if David Stern..." too ? :roll:
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Postby Bang on Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:23 am

Well I was referring to the main post.
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Postby Carmo on Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:08 pm

LegoTP wrote:
bangyounh wrote:You know it will never happen.


I know. That's why I wrote "It'd". Did you want I write "It'd be great if David Stern..." too ? :roll:


Ummm.......what did you just say???
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Postby PinoyIDOL on Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:28 pm

Technical Fouls and Unsportsmanlike Fouls were great ideas to be included in the Game BUT NBA is conservative unlike NFL & NHL so let's just focus on other areas LIKE GAMEPLAY & DEEPER DYNASTY MODE..

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Postby Andrew on Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:31 pm

MaD_hAND1e wrote:They used to have flagrants at one point, but they seem to have taken that out too. Maybe they could at least get flagrants back in.


The only problem was flagrants always resulted in injuries. If they bring them back in I'd hope that injuries and flagrant fouls are not dependant on each other (though certainly some hard flagrant fouls should result in injuries).
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Postby cklitsie on Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:23 am

Andrew wrote:I meant the NBA would insist on such a rating being a hidden attribute, which means it probably wouldn't be called a "Temper" rating.
"Intensity rating" :lol:
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:41 pm

Yeah, they might go for that. :)
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:21 pm

Yes, bring in some kind of temper, flair, intensity rating... all the same. There don't have to be fights but u should have a chance to argue calls and stuff...
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Postby PinoyIDOL on Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:34 pm

Sit wrote:
Yes, bring in some kind of temper, flair, intensity rating... all the same. There don't have to be fights but u should have a chance to argue calls and stuff...


This is possible! Great Idea! :)
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Postby LegoTP on Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:38 pm

PinoyIDOL wrote: Sit wrote:
Yes, bring in some kind of temper, flair, intensity rating... all the same. There don't have to be fights but u should have a chance to argue calls and stuff...


This is possible! Great Idea! :)


Yeah, that's what I wanted to say... :)
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