EA's Mistake on Computer's Offensive Reboundings.

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EA's Mistake on Computer's Offensive Reboundings.

Postby BBBBBlockMe on Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:19 pm

My point is:
Computer's Offensive Rebounds ability is EXTREMELY TOO POWERFUL.
And:
Yes, I've read all those other posts complaining about Offensive Rebs which ended up with some Pro-Gamer blaiming it on Noobs that they don't know how to post up or jump too slow. But, IT ISSS Computer's (EA) false that computer are doing too many Offensive Rebs.


I am playing Timberwolves in Dynasty. Teh team with one of the BEST DEFENSIVE REBOUNDER IRL & ITG.
I am playing in Locked-player mode on my 99 ratings SF, which means that I cannot Possibly control my own Posts to post up for rebounds nor the team Should be Relying on me to rebounds. This means that I need to rely mainly on the computer-user-assist to control my posts and let them rebound.

AND LOOK AT MY TEAM REBOUNDS RATING!!
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Postby BBBBBlockMe on Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:23 pm

BTW,
Here's an example of those Pro-Gamers who won't accept the fact and blame it on Noobs. And, Yes.. I've turn CPU Offensive Reb to 0, and mine to 100.

Mysticsmoke wrote:It really depends o how you play.

Tim*The King*Duncan wrote:Exactily, I don't get why people gripe about offensive rebounding, its rediculous! If you don't want so many offensive rebounds, Then stop jumping up for it! Run down and play defense!

Laxation wrote:time your fucking rebound correctly and stop your fucking bitching
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Postby Wormy10 on Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:23 pm

Damn, I didnt notice it was ever that bad :?
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Postby flipz on Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:46 pm

set defensive rebs to 85 each and offensive rebs at 5 for both User and CPU, much better that way,plus learn how to rebound better, remember EA took out the "crashboards" outta this years game thus the user must MANUALLY rebound
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Postby Tim*The King*Duncan on Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:48 pm

Why the heck you playing with player lock? Explains why its like that, who the heck... nevermind...

Noobs....
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Postby Tim*The King*Duncan on Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:51 pm

Check it out, you put the simulated time on 12 minutes, I'm freakin' sure you don't play 12 minute games, that's why its so skewed. If you play 6 - 7 minute games, put the simulated game time to 9 minutes then you'll get more realiable stat lines....

Sorry for the unprecidented comment....
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Postby flipz on Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:57 pm

u just snapped :shock: on him....blockkkkkmeeee, if ur playing first mode basketball then u gonna get crushed on the boards :shock:
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Postby Laxation on Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:33 pm

you FUCKING MORON

look at the fucking video you posted with you jumping like a rabbit on steroids. fucking watch it.

how the fuck do you expect to get ANY rebounds playing like that?

fucking hell... YOUR RETARDED
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Postby BBBBBlockMe on Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:49 pm

Tim*The King*Duncan wrote:Check it out, you put the simulated time on 12 minutes... If you play 6 - 7 minute games, put the simulated game time to 9 minutes then you'll get more realiable stat lines...

I play on 4 mins qtr, 6 mins sim.


Laxation wrote:...look at the fucking video you posted...

The video I posted was months ago, and I've improved. Just pointing out here that it's also EA's false.
Laxation wrote:...how the fuck do you expect to get ANY rebounds playing like that?...

I stated there that I am playing SF.

Oh, btw, Laxation. READ THE THREAD B4 U WRITE.
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Postby flipz on Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:18 pm

damn lax relax,too much cussin
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Postby Null17 on Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:27 pm

what the hell? Pro gamers? lol :lol:
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Postby Fresh8 on Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:24 pm

The offensive reboudns are a problem but u gotta crash the boards urself. On a gamepad u can call that i think.
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Postby Tim*The King*Duncan on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:04 pm

Yup! We are in the persuit of perfection! Call it progaming call it obsesive compulsive disorder but anyway......... its not EA's fault if you can't get a rebound and most of the other players can....

Suggestion for future playing.... Keep practicing..... just keep practicing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby BBBBBlockMe on Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:26 pm

So you (Mr. Tim*The King*Duncan) still believe that EA did not make any mistake on this Computer Offensive Rebs rating and it's all the player's false?

Referring back to the first post in this thread... Say I, as a locked-SF-player, do 10 Rebs per game (4mins qtr), my team overall Rebs will be 99+(10*8) = 179 total Rebs. And Looooook at the picture, other teams have 200+ total Rebs!!
Now, I'd say 10 Rebs a game for an SF is pretty rediculous already, not mentioning how good Garnett should be doing at Rebounding in all those past 8 games. My team total Rebs should be higher than this one in the picture.
This clearly prooove that EA did mess up on Computer Offensive Rebounding.
Tim*The King*Duncan wrote:...its not EA's fault if you can't get a rebound and most of the other players can...

Now, Do you still stand with that comment?
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:22 pm

I think your problem lies in the Player Lock. The game is formed so that you actually need to go for the rebounds yourself in order to get them. Play without player lock and try to go for the offensive rebounds and you'll feel the difference. (Also don't try to get the rebounds with your created player, try to get them with the player in the best position for it)


By the way, Laxation, no need for you to call him names...
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Postby Patr1ck on Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:47 pm

If you don't think there is a problem with defensive rebounding, watch this video-

Collision-detection---Def-Rebounding-in-NBA-LIVE-06

Notice the last two of three rebounds - Maggette should have had the second rebound as his thumb was through the ball, the second rebound Mobley was right on the ball, yet the ball goes to the player on the ground -on the other team. By the way I lost that game by 1, missing a freestyle superstar hook with Elton Brand at the buzzer. Rebounds in the first half were realistic --- Off/Def---- Heat 3/11, Clips 5/14, second half Heat 8/8, Clips 7/6. I'm gonna try following the cpu and pushing him out of the way when he jumps for a board. Also, I've only been able to box out successfully once, but I noticed the player boxing out jumped alot higher then the player being boxed out, and the result was a def rebound.

133 STEALS? wow :crazyeyes:
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Postby Jugs on Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:59 pm

BBBLockme, go back to dot org (N)

Like Andreas said (but i'll put some bad words in it) it's the fucking player lock, you went for the rebounds because you were on fucking player lock... god some people are retards
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Postby Metsis on Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:24 pm

BBBBBlockMe wrote:So you (Mr. Tim*The King*Duncan) still believe that EA did not make any mistake on this Computer Offensive Rebs rating and it's all the player's false?

Referring back to the first post in this thread... Say I, as a locked-SF-player, do 10 Rebs per game (4mins qtr), my team overall Rebs will be 99+(10*8) = 179 total Rebs. And Looooook at the picture, other teams have 200+ total Rebs!!
Now, I'd say 10 Rebs a game for an SF is pretty rediculous already, not mentioning how good Garnett should be doing at Rebounding in all those past 8 games. My team total Rebs should be higher than this one in the picture.
This clearly prooove that EA did mess up on Computer Offensive Rebounding.
Tim*The King*Duncan wrote:...its not EA's fault if you can't get a rebound and most of the other players can...

Now, Do you still stand with that comment?


Man you are way off... You are rebounding at a same pace as the rest of the teams... You extrapolate a little and I see you getting similar numbers at the end of the season, with the difference being the 4 minute quarts compared to the 6 minute quarts...

Look at the picture in the first post... It's no wonder you have 100 boards and the AI has 230... First off, you factor in the 4 minute to 6 minute difference and you've already got 150 boards when compared to the AI, then you take those 150 boards in only 8 (frikkin eight) games and you extrapolate it to match the leagues about 12 games... And voila, you've got your self on a 225 rebound pace when compared to the AI...

The time does the difference and mostly it's due to games played... So if you cannot understand that you can't pull down the same amount of boards in 8 games than other teams can in 12 games, you are seriously demented and need to go play NBA Street or some other game that has no correlation between the game and reality...

DO THE MATH before you start bitching... Math is important at every facet in life, even while playing computer games...
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Postby rikson on Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:59 am

Oh shit - your answers are too stupit.

Just play another way and it will work - thats true - BUT THIS IS NOT THE SOLUTION. I mean the game should provide real stats.
Its like EA releases the new NBA with a lot of bugs and then all the hobby programmers meet here and talk about how to fix them - THATS NOT A GOOD GAME.

Hope you´ll get out of EA´s ass !!!!
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Postby giggsryan on Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:17 am

I want to point out you "Pro Gamers" that even when you guys are the "Pro" of playing the NBA Live series or any games that you consider yourselves professional in, the majority wins.

You can obviously tell that many, and I mean many of the people that played NBA Live 06 are very disappointed with the game. We the "Noobs" critisize the game, in a way to reach out to EA Sports with the hopes for a much improved game on the next release of the NBA Live series.

I did my complaining about this game earlier, and even when you guys try to reason out the noobs by swearing(Laxation) or some fixation of tweaking in the game, it still doesn't change the fact that majority does not appreciate this game.

A word to Laxation, all you seem to do is type up swearing in this forum, I read few of your posts, they always seem to have profanities in it, immature loser, get at least some high school education and start using the internet.
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Postby rikson on Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:20 am

You can obviously tell that many, and I mean many of the people that played NBA Live 06 are very disappointed with the game. We the "Noobs" critisize the game, in a way to reach out to EA Sports with the hopes for a much improved game on the next release of the NBA Live series.


thats true !

...only critic will improve the game...
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Postby Null17 on Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:22 am

Did anyone actually call themselves pro gamers here? :lol:

Or was it just BBBBBBBBlockMe giving them a label?

and rikson...there are actually very few programmers in the community....would've been better if there were more so we can get more patching tools. nothing to do with the topic, just pointing it out
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Postby Laxation on Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:10 am

giggsryan wrote:A word to Laxation, all you seem to do is type up swearing in this forum, I read few of your posts, they always seem to have profanities in it, immature loser, get at least some high school education and start using the internet.


i actually finish high-school next week :roll: and im using the internet already, thats how im posting here... thats sort of obvious isnt it?

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Postby threatlockz on Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:33 am

Laxation, stop using the f-word and stop other namecalling as well. there's absolutely no reason to do it and it's irritating to read too.
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Postby idiot on Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:33 am

Andreas Dahl wrote:I think your problem lies in the Player Lock. The game is formed so that you actually need to go for the rebounds yourself in order to get them. Play without player lock and try to go for the offensive rebounds and you'll feel the difference. (Also don't try to get the rebounds with your created player, try to get them with the player in the best position for it).


I was readin operation sports and the guy who came up with the team play sets recommended playing with player lock on teh pg, defending the perimeter and let your big men handle the paint and the rebounds... I havn't tried it yet because i find playerlock awkward but the people there seems to like it... so i guess playerlock isn't the problem here
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