superstar rookies?

[Dewaco]

Do you guys think they will allow rookies to have superstar abilities?
(this year as well as created rookies)
...Salim Stoudamire....Shooter

[Devin112]

Salim is a great shooter and has 3 point range, but he's a 6-1 sg who's not athletic enough to over come the height difference, not like AI can. I'm sure he's going to have a good career, but don't expect to see what we say in the NCAA. He won't be able to carry it over entirely against SGs in the nba where they're atleast 6-5.

Plus the most athletic position in the NBA is SG, he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

So he has the ability, but I don't think he'll be able to do it in the NBA, therefore he shouldn't get superstar status.

[RoCkY MaIvIa]

No I dont think so because EA yet to watch them play in the NBA..

We have editing stuff in the game so if we want to give rookies that ability,we're free to that brother..

[Andrew]

I'm guessing Deron Williams will have Playmaker Freestyle. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the better draftees rated just high enough to get some Freestyle Superstars abilities.

[Pross]

Salim is a great shooter and has 3 point range, but he's a 6-1 sg who's not athletic enough to over come the height difference, not like AI can. I'm sure he's going to have a good career, but don't expect to see what we say in the NCAA. He won't be able to carry it over entirely against SGs in the nba where they're atleast 6-5.

Plus the most athletic position in the NBA is SG, he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

So he has the ability, but I don't think he'll be able to do it in the NBA, therefore he shouldn't get superstar status.

Wow..great logic Doesnt matter if he's not a "Superstar" in all aspects of his game... the point is that he is one of the best shooters around so he will most likely have the Shooter Freestyle abilities...

If we are going by your logic, is Bruce Bowen a superstar? no far from it! but he is a great defensive player therefore he will have the Stopper Freestyle ability!

[cocobee]

Raymod Felton should have playmaker ability too.BTW-I saw him at Wal Mart on Saturday night like 11:30 PM. My fiance and I had a late dinner and stopped by Walmart to get some things before we went home and there he was! He seems like a cool guy, I just told him good luck with the following season. He was all decked out in adidas, well just a white t-shirt, and adidas sandals and shorts. I knew he just signed with them so that's what finally got me to ask him.He was buying hygiene products.

[Devin112]

Salim is a great shooter and has 3 point range, but he's a 6-1 sg who's not athletic enough to over come the height difference, not like AI can. I'm sure he's going to have a good career, but don't expect to see what we say in the NCAA. He won't be able to carry it over entirely against SGs in the nba where they're atleast 6-5.

Plus the most athletic position in the NBA is SG, he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

So he has the ability, but I don't think he'll be able to do it in the NBA, therefore he shouldn't get superstar status.

Wow..great logic Doesnt matter if he's not a "Superstar" in all aspects of his game... the point is that he is one of the best shooters around so he will most likely have the Shooter Freestyle abilities...

If we are going by your logic, is Bruce Bowen a superstar? no far from it! but he is a great defensive player therefore he will have the Stopper Freestyle ability!

First off don't be patronizing, let's talk about the merits.

So you think Salim will be able to shoot the ball well and in the end of the season obtain a good FG% against the most athletic position in the NBA at 6-1 and not being all that athletic? AI is quick and athletic and his FG isn't all that good.

EA like to keep players somewhat accurate to their stats. Therefore, I doubt Salim will be a superstar shooter.

that's my logic, it may or may not be the case, but it's reasonable.

Doesnt matter if he's not a "Superstar" in all aspects of his game...

i didn't mention any other aspect of his game. I don't think he should get it cuzz he will not be able to shoot 50% over athletic 2 guards in the league, who'll be almost half a foot taller. what part of that is illogical? we haven't seen Salim play in the league yet, so it's debatable.

Of course Bowen will get stopper freestyle, he's been doing for years. Salim has been doing it in college, may or maynot translate into the nba. Plus going by EA protocol, i doubt they give a second rounder shooting superstar status.

I do agree he has a greattttttttttttttt shot though, i just doubt it'll translate into the nba. until he proves it in the league, he shouldn't get it.

[Mike Bradford]

by the looks of the videos of the 3 rookies, Deron will have playmaker, Bogut will have inside scorer. From what i could see, the moves they were doing matched up with the ones i saw in the videos for playmaker and scorer. Mind you they could have changed anything since then.

[Pross]

Salim is a great shooter and has 3 point range, but he's a 6-1 sg who's not athletic enough to over come the height difference, not like AI can. I'm sure he's going to have a good career, but don't expect to see what we say in the NCAA. He won't be able to carry it over entirely against SGs in the nba where they're atleast 6-5.

Plus the most athletic position in the NBA is SG, he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

So he has the ability, but I don't think he'll be able to do it in the NBA, therefore he shouldn't get superstar status.

Wow..great logic Doesnt matter if he's not a "Superstar" in all aspects of his game... the point is that he is one of the best shooters around so he will most likely have the Shooter Freestyle abilities...

If we are going by your logic, is Bruce Bowen a superstar? no far from it! but he is a great defensive player therefore he will have the Stopper Freestyle ability!

First off don't be patronizing, let's talk about the merits.

So you think Salim will be able to shoot the ball well and in the end of the season obtain a good FG% against the most athletic position in the NBA at 6-1 and not being all that athletic? AI is quick and athletic and his FG isn't all that good.

EA like to keep players somewhat accurate to their stats. Therefore, I doubt Salim will be a superstar shooter.

that's my logic, it may or may not be the case, but it's reasonable.

Doesnt matter if he's not a "Superstar" in all aspects of his game...

i didn't mention any other aspect of his game. I don't think he should get it cuzz he will not be able to shoot 50% over athletic 2 guards in the league, who'll be almost half a foot taller. what part of that is illogical? we haven't seen Salim play in the league yet, so it's debatable.

Of course Bowen will get stopper freestyle, he's been doing for years. Salim has been doing it in college, may or maynot translate into the nba. Plus going by EA protocol, i doubt they give a second rounder shooting superstar status.

I do agree he has a greattttttttttttttt shot though, i just doubt it'll translate into the nba. until he proves it in the league, he shouldn't get it.

Hmmm...do you play or watch basketball at all? Salim is mainly a spot up shooter which means most of his shots will come off someone else creating a wide open opportunity for him..just because he is smaller doesnt mean he wont be able to get his shot off.. he often played against taller players in college aswell (obviously not on the same skill level as nba) and still managed to get good looks. And tell me when in NBA HISTORY has a great shooter come into the nba and not been able to get good looks? Steve Kerr later in his career played some 2 guard next to tony parker..he managed to get some clean shots off!

I dont really think thats the basis of this point anyway! So what shooting rating would give Salim? It would be just ludicrous to give him a low rating because you "think" he wont be able to get a good shot off because of taller defenders haha...
He's a good shooter, a proven shooter.. why not give him a good shooting rating..

Wow talk about a rant!

[Wormy10]

Raymod Felton should have playmaker ability too.BTW-I saw him at Wal Mart on Saturday night like 11:30 PM. My fiance and I had a late dinner and stopped by Walmart to get some things before we went home and there he was! He seems like a cool guy, I just told him good luck with the following season. He was all decked out in adidas, well just a white t-shirt, and adidas sandals and shorts. I knew he just signed with them so that's what finally got me to ask him.He was buying hygiene products.

Where do you live at?
I saw your location, and I was like wow you saw Raymond Felton in the coochie

[Devin112]

I dont really think thats the basis of this point anyway! So what shooting rating would give Salim? It would be just ludicrous to give him a low rating because you "think" he wont be able to get a good shot off because of taller defenders haha...
He's a good shooter, a proven shooter.. why not give him a good shooting rating..

Wow talk about a rant!

first off, don't assume that just because a person doesn't agree with you that he or she has less knowledge or watches less basketball. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions.

Who said he should have a low shooting rating? I wrote above that he had a "greaaaaaaattttttttttttttttttttt" shot. But I presume to get superstar shooter status you atleast an 80-85? I might be wrong, but I doubt EA will give a 6-1 second rounder that stat, if they do he'll be a great pick up for any LIVE team like Kappano was the past couple of lives.

I was gonna mention Kerr too, I was gonna right there hasn't been a good short 2 guard since Kerr. If he was stil lin the game a little younger, i think he shoudl get shooter status too, BECAUSE HE'S PROVEN HIMSELF IN THE LEAGUE AGAINST THE NBA'S FINEST.

Salim did it against guys who are now accountants.

But like I said, it's just my opinion. I may be wrong and EA will give that status, I just don't think he should get it quite yet. EA has more often then not, UNDER-rate then anything else.

I don't hate the guy, in fact I wanted the Clippers to pick him, they wanted to but the cavs picked him up right before the clippers could. clipper fans have been eyeing him for a long time.

say what you will, but don't antagonize me.

[kingsfanman]

Salim should have shooter. End of story.

Francisco garcia should have shooter too.

[Pross]

I dont really think thats the basis of this point anyway! So what shooting rating would give Salim? It would be just ludicrous to give him a low rating because you "think" he wont be able to get a good shot off because of taller defenders haha...
He's a good shooter, a proven shooter.. why not give him a good shooting rating..

Wow talk about a rant!

first off, don't assume that just because a person doesn't agree with you that he or she has less knowledge or watches less basketball. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions.

Who said he should have a low shooting rating? I wrote above that he had a "greaaaaaaattttttttttttttttttttt" shot. But I presume to get superstar shooter status you atleast an 80-85? I might be wrong, but I doubt EA will give a 6-1 second rounder that stat, if they do he'll be a great pick up for any LIVE team like Kappano was the past couple of lives.

I was gonna mention Kerr too, I was gonna right there hasn't been a good short 2 guard since Kerr. If he was stil lin the game a little younger, i think he shoudl get shooter status too, BECAUSE HE'S PROVEN HIMSELF IN THE LEAGUE AGAINST THE NBA'S FINEST.

Salim did it against guys who are now accountants.

But like I said, it's just my opinion. I may be wrong and EA will give that status, I just don't think he should get it quite yet. EA has more often then not, UNDER-rate then anything else.

I don't hate the guy, in fact I wanted the Clippers to pick him, they wanted to but the cavs picked him up right before the clippers could. clipper fans have been eyeing him for a long time.

say what you will, but don't antagonize me.

Nothing wrong with a healthy debate! But your right..we both have our own opinions and either one could be right/wrong.. No harm done..
P.S I respect your basketball knowledge now that I've read more of your posts

[Devin112]

cool pross, all's well that ends well. That was a good exchange, let's go find something else to argue about!

[Dewaco]

I feel like an instigator, and that really wasn't even the point.lol
It's cool though.
But to stretch this even further i would like to ask (most specifically Devin112) if someone like say Gerald Green should be a highflyer?

[Mike Bradford]

keep something in mind, just because someone is a good shooter in NCAA ball, doesnt mean they will be just as good in the NBA. the defenders are bigger, and harder to get shots off on. Also the 3 point line is further back.

[Air Jordon]

i dont think any of the rookies should be superstars. only exception would be dunkers, but i wouldnt even do that.

[kingsfanman]

NCAA ball is tougher .. in many ways, than NBA ball. I wouldn't say a person playing in the NCAA would have THAT much more trouble shootingin the NBA. NCAA is more athletic....

[Homeboy478]

There are a couple of Rookies I hope that will get Superstar Status

Deng Gai - Inside Stopper-Stats - Questionable EA tend to lack Coverage on undraftees
Hakim Warrick- High Flyer - No Stats Needed
Gerald Green - High Flyer - No Stats Needed
Deron Williams - Playmaker - Stats - and we All seen what he did in the NCAA Tournament

There Are a few more but I can't think of them right now.

[cocobee]

Raymod Felton should have playmaker ability too.BTW-I saw him at Wal Mart on Saturday night like 11:30 PM. My fiance and I had a late dinner and stopped by Walmart to get some things before we went home and there he was! He seems like a cool guy, I just told him good luck with the following season. He was all decked out in adidas, well just a white t-shirt, and adidas sandals and shorts. I knew he just signed with them so that's what finally got me to ask him.He was buying hygiene products.

Where do you live at?
I saw your location, and I was like wow you saw Raymond Felton in the coochie

LOL Got me!

BTW, Charlotte, NC. Home of the B.E.T.cats

[GAME_ZONE]

i think few rokies must have superstar control : like saras (jasikevicius) he is very good play maker MAcijauskas certainly is shooter they both is best in europe but in NBA they will be Rokies

[Devin112]

I feel like an instigator, and that really wasn't even the point.lol
It's cool though.
But to stretch this even further i would like to ask (most specifically Devin112) if someone like say Gerald Green should be a highflyer?

I think GG should be able to reproduce his dunking prowess in the NBA. Most dunks are open anyways. Will be harder to dunk on 7 footers and but HIGHFLYER isn't a dunk-on rating. It's just a high flying one. He's 6-8 and has a 40inch vert, so yes.

Just my 2 cents.

[Rokas[LTU]]

i think few rokies must have superstar control : like saras (jasikevicius) he is very good play maker MAcijauskas certainly is shooter they both is best in europe but in NBA they will be Rokies

You are reading my minds...

[zmac]

They better give some of em superstar abilities

Gerald Green, easy high flyer
Deron Williams, playmaker
Hakeen Warrick, highflyer

i could go on and on but i wont