v1.04 released...

[Andrew]

I've released version 1.04 of the roster update. I've tried to satisfy everyone's requests and suggestions, as well as fixing up errors and adding the 2003 All-Star teams. Oh yeah, and the patch has up to date rosters and lineups.

You can download the patch here.

Please base all feedback (suggestions, corrections, technical issues) on the new version, chances are I fixed the problem that existed in 1.03 and earlier versions.

[dreadd41]

hey Andrew,

Here are the rest of the corrections to be made for the v1.05:

Tony Delk - Nickname: Buckets / The Tiger
Jalen Rose - Nickname: Chicks
DaJuan Wagner - Nickname: The Messiah
Smush Parker - Birthplace: Newark, NJ
FACE - 17
HAIRSTYLE - 6
FACIAL HAIR - NONE
HEAD SHAPE - 3
EYES SHAPE - 2
NOSE SHAPE - 2
LIP SHAPE - 1
EXPRESSION - LAID BACK
BODYTYPE - 2
MUSCLE DEFINITION - 1
HEADBAND - LIGHT BLUE

Adrian Griffin - Left Handed
Michael Finley - Nickname: Fins
Antoine Rigaudeau - Birthplace: Cholet, France
FACE - 2
HAIRSTYLE - 14
FACIAL HAIR - 7
HEAD SHAPE - DEFAULT
EYE SHAPE - 2
NOSE SHAPE - 3
LIP SHAPE - DEFAULT
EXPRESSION - BALANCED
BODY TYPE - 2
MUSCLE DEFINITION - 3

Donnell Harvey - Left handed
Vincent Yarbrough - Nickname: Sweet James
Junior Harrington - Birthplace: Wagram, NC
FACE - 15
HAIRSTYLE - 3
FACIAL HAIR - 2
HEAD SHAPE - DEFAULT
EYES SHAPE - DEFAULT
LIP SHAPE - DEFAULT
NOSE SHAPE - DEFAULT
EXPRESSION - BALANCED
BODYTYPE - 1
MUSCLE DEFINITION - 2

Chris Whitney - Nickname: C-Whit
Nikoloz Tskitishvili - Nickname: Skita
Rodney White - Nickname: Wink
Predrag Savovic - Nickname: Savo
Richard Hamilton - Nickname: Rip
Mehmet Okur - Nickname: Memo
Don Reid - Nickname: Chief
Glen Rice - Nickname: G-Money
Jason Collier - Left Handed
Juaquin Hawkins - Birthplace: Gardena, CA
FACE - 15
HAIRSTYLE - 4
FACIAL HAIR - 3
HEAD SHAPE - 1
EYES SHAPE - 1
NOSE SHAPE - 4
LIP SHAPE - 2
EXPRESSION - LAID BACK
BODYTYPE - 1
MUSCLE DEFINITION - 3
HEADBAND - DARK RED
SOCK LENGTH - MEDIUM

Derek Fisher - Nickname: D-Fish
Stanislav Medvedenko - Nickname: Slava
Mike Batiste - Birthplace: Long Beach, CA
FACE - 12
HAIRSTYLE - 2
FACIAL HAIR - NONE
HEAD SHAPE - 2
EYES SHAPE - DEFAULT
NOSE SHAPE - 2
LIP SHAPE - 1
EXPRESSION - LAID BACK
BODYTYPE - 3
MUSCLE DEFINITION - 2
SOCK LENGTH - MEDIUM

Rasual Butler - Nickname: Saul Bop
Ken Johnson - Birthplace: Detroit, MI
Sean Lampley - Birthplace: Harvery, IL
Igor Rakocevic - Birthplace: Belgrade, Yugoslavia
Kurt Thomas - Nickname: Crazy Eyes
Pat Burke - Birthplace: Dublin, Ireland
FACE - 9
HAIRSTYLE - 1
FACIAL HAIR - NONE
HEAD SHAPE - 4
EYE SHAPE - DEFAULT
NOSE SHAPE - 4
LIP SHAPE - 2
EXPRESSION - LAID BACK
BODY TYPE - 4
MUSCLE DEFINITION - 3

Kenny Satterfield - Nickname: Satt
Scot Pollard - Nickname: The Butcher
Reggie Evans - Birthplace: Pensacola, FL
FACE - 16
HAIRSTYLE - 3
FACIAL HAIR - NONE
HEAD SHAPE - 3
EYES SHAPE - DEFAULT
NOSE SHAPE - 2
LIP SHAPE - 1
EXPRESSION - LAID BACK
BODYTYPE - 1
MUSCLE DEFINITION - 2

Andrei Kirilenko - Nickname: AK-47

Yeah, it is too much, sorry about that. Anyway, hope I'm helping out,
Eduardo

[Andrew]

No need to apologise, it's the kind of thing I'm looking for. Thanks for the list.

[dreadd41]

I forgot to mention that i had a BIG help from my friend Oswaldo Thompson on that list.... Thanks O.T. !!

Andrew, the tweaked ratings roster is MADE by D.K. or do you use his coefficients on YOUR roster?

Just wondering,
Eduardo

[Andrew]

DK has given me permission to use his coefficients, which I then apply to my roster patch. However, DK arrived at those coefficients as the result of his work, effort and experimentation, which is why I quite willingly give him credit for the tweaked version of the NLSC rosters (as I credit Kq for the tweaked rosters in the NBA Live 2001 roster patch).

[celticslegend33]

Andrew,

Just wondering. Whenever I start a franchise mode using the first pick in the draft, I always start out not picking Dirk Nowitzki in my team. Being a Dirk fan, I always had to do some player trading before I start my first game.

Dirk's overall rating is '89'. However, on more than one occassion, I'd trade 2-3 of my players for him. When he's finally on my team, I'd notice his overall rating would drop down to '78'. Why is this? Is this a bug or is Dirk just disgruntled with the trade?

[Andrew]

Are you using the tweaked rosters?

[celticslegend33]

Yup.

[Andrew]

I thought so. The tweaked version does behave like that, since I did not recalculate the overall ratings when I applied DK's coefficients. Roster moves cause re-calculation of the overall ratings, which is what you're seeing.

[dreadd41]

Is there a way of preventing the re-calculation of the overall ratings after a roster move? If so, can you do that on the next roster release?
On DK's roster, does the same thing happen?

Peace.

[Andrew]

There's no way to prevent re-calculation. I assume the same issue exists in DK's roster, unless he re-calculated the overall ratings before release (in which case, Nowitzki would already be about 78 overall when the patch is installed).

The problem with tweaked ratings has always been the ratings. While they yield better gameplay results, they are not suitable for Franchise mode.

[celticslegend33]

Andrew,

Having the overall rating changed is understandable. What bothers me is that the ratings themselves change after the move, usually by a point or two.

ie. From tweaked version, before trade --> 56
Franchise, tweaked, after the trade --> 55

[Andrew]

Another effect of applying the coefficients. Because the ratings are multiplied by a decimal, that kind of thing happens.

[ramado72]

hi Andrew...

just wanted to ask if EA will release an official patch for the rosters... just wondered if you know anything about that... noticed that just past nba live games, EA deliberately forgets to update its rosters unlike with for example nhl 2003... updated rosters are always available... but why does EA not update its nba live series? that seems odd don't you think? thank god for patchers like you... gamers like us enjoy updated rosters which makes our nba live games more exciting... keep up the good work!!!!

[Andrew]

Thanks for your kind comments, always nice to hear the rosters are being put to good use. As far as I know, EA do not plan to release any official roster updates for the PC version. I believe there's been at least a couple of official roster updates for the PS2 version.