NCAA 2K13 v2.0! Names, Finally!

[bigh0rt]

0 Gonzaga
1 Florida
2 Michigan State
7 Notre Dame
8 Kansas
9 Harvard
10 Missouri
11 Michigan
12 Kansas State
13 Syracuse
14 Marquette
15 Duke
16 Kentucky
17 Cincinnati
18 North Carolina
19 Oregon
20 Florida State
21 Indiana
22 Louisville
23 Vanderbilt
24 Texas
25 Creighton
26 Xavier
27 NC State
28 Baylor
29 Wisconsin

No Under Armour teams

I imagine after REDitor is released we may see some added.

[Fifedawg]

New Roster Update: http://www.mediafire.com/?8dgr8rg7iv15h21

I simulated the season and Gonzaga won the whole thing, so nothing unreasonable. Try them out for yourself and please give me feedback. I don't know every college basketball player so the statistically formulated ratings should be a base that can be tweaked. Don't put too much bearing on the overall rating (even though they are pretty good) but look at the individual ratings and give feedback on that. Please don't just tell me that player x is only a 80 and should be a 95, I can't just change the overalls, I need some feedback on the individual ratings. Also, before you ask me to change a players ratings, please actually play with or against them and see if they play like they should. Keep in mind that tendencies are still in progress and I haven't assigned any signature skills.

Basically, the goal is to use the data-driven stats as a base and then community feedback to tweak the roster so we have a great one.

Enjoy! I'll post some ratings for those who can't get on the game right now.

Overall ratings don't mean very much it's just something for people to talk about. Overall ratings are really jacked up when you have a good defensive player, but they don't give the same rating boost for someone who is a good offensive player. Have you tinkered with Coach tendencies at all? They make a big difference in how a team performs as well and also the Coach's grades. Unfortunately we have to wait for REditor to edit a Coach's grades though.

[johnbuckeyefan]

Haven't touched coach tendencies at all and I don't really have a lot of experience with that. If you want to mess with it then by all means go for it. At some point I may develop a formula spreadsheet for it based on team tempo stats and that sort of thing

[ngwilli411]

"ngwilli411"]I made a few logos that we could use instead of the plastic wrap ones. What do you guys think?

Last edited by ngwilli411 on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:22 am, edited 2 times in total.

[johnbuckeyefan]

I made a few logos that we could use instead of the plastic wrap ones. What do you guys think?

Those are sweet, I like them a lot

[ngwilli411]

That is just a preview, I have plenty more just felt like sharing these four

[vnardella5]

Hey! this is my first post, but ive been following this board for a while!! now, i wanna get involved!! im hopen to do like the players for the title screen, the ncaa 13 logo etc!! heres a link to some of my best work!

http://vnardella5.picturepush.com/

[johnbuckeyefan]

Hey! this is my first post, but ive been following this board for a while!! now, i wanna get involved!! im hopen to do like the players for the title screen, the ncaa 13 logo etc!! heres a link to some of my best work!

http://vnardella5.picturepush.com/

Good stuff man, you definitely have some ability with photoshop, feel free to do any jersey or court texture too. If you need any help just ask!

[StormsWarning]

vnardell, your work looks really great bro, i know i've seen your id somewhere, anyway great job man. i played 2 games yesterday, 1 with michigan vs ohio state, the other with texas vs baylor, both games played great, so your work is clear there john, great stuff, but im wondering how can i change some of the shots i'm seeing alot of nba shots that i wanna turn into college shots, is that where reditor might would come in? i seen some pull up's jumpers also that looked really well!

[JaoSming]

shot animations can be edited in the current roster editor

[bigh0rt]

vnardell, your work looks really great bro, i know i've seen your id somewhere, anyway great job man. i played 2 games yesterday, 1 with michigan vs ohio state, the other with texas vs baylor, both games played great, so your work is clear there john, great stuff, but im wondering how can i change some of the shots i'm seeing alot of nba shots that i wanna turn into college shots, is that where reditor might would come in? i seen some pull up's jumpers also that looked really well!

It may just be the sliders I'm using, but I find that players get fatigued very fast. I also find that they don't use much of the clock very much (this can be changed in the coaching tendencies). Otherwise I'm really enjoying a lot of the gameplay.

Tweaking the accessories and shoes is coming along very well. I've got through Notre Dame done with proper colors in the Jerseys tab, players wearing the correct gear and shoes for Home/Away both.

If one of the great modders here could create the Nike 2-tone sleeve, the Nike colored socks (to replace ankle wraps), and turn the shoulder pads to look more like t-shirts, it will start to look even more authentic.

[vnardella5]

Hey! this is my first post, but ive been following this board for a while!! now, i wanna get involved!! im hopen to do like the players for the title screen, the ncaa 13 logo etc!! heres a link to some of my best work!

http://vnardella5.picturepush.com/

Good stuff man, you definitely have some ability with photoshop, feel free to do any jersey or court texture too. If you need any help just ask!

thanks man!! ill see if i can do jersey textures, lol but i need a blank jersey template to work on....lol or do those not exsist?? like one without any designs if u no what i mean

[StormsWarning]

shot animations can be edited in the current roster editor

ok ty j and big, i'll look into it.

[johnbuckeyefan]

vnardell, your work looks really great bro, i know i've seen your id somewhere, anyway great job man. i played 2 games yesterday, 1 with michigan vs ohio state, the other with texas vs baylor, both games played great, so your work is clear there john, great stuff, but im wondering how can i change some of the shots i'm seeing alot of nba shots that i wanna turn into college shots, is that where reditor might would come in? i seen some pull up's jumpers also that looked really well!

Yes I didn't touch any of the shot animations or anything, I know that I need to make some guys left handed (ie Deshaun Thomas) and some guys right handed (Ben Mclemore) as I didn't touch that either. Have you tried editing the roster in game? If so does it crash the game?

It may just be the sliders I'm using, but I find that players get fatigued very fast. I also find that they don't use much of the clock very much (this can be changed in the coaching tendencies). Otherwise I'm really enjoying a lot of the gameplay.

Tweaking the accessories and shoes is coming along very well. I've got through Notre Dame done with proper colors in the Jerseys tab, players wearing the correct gear and shoes for Home/Away both.

If one of the great modders here could create the Nike 2-tone sleeve, the Nike colored socks (to replace ankle wraps), and turn the shoulder pads to look more like t-shirts, it will start to look even more authentic.

Yeah I probably need to mess with the stamina ratings. What I did was (minutes per game) / 40 * 100, so the stamina rating is basically a percentage of minutes per game that player plays. They are definitely too low though. Also, are t-shirts not already in the game?

Thanks for the feedback on the game, I'm going to do a little more research on how the ratings and tendencies actually affect gameplay so I can make players play more like themselves. My general idea for tendencies is to use 2k's standard play styles (defensive center, 3pt shooting guard etc.) as a base and tweak from there, but I'm going to do some more research.

[ngwilli411]

Which style do you guys prefer


Here's the original

Last edited by ngwilli411 on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:23 am, edited 2 times in total.

[Fifedawg]

Haven't touched coach tendencies at all and I don't really have a lot of experience with that. If you want to mess with it then by all means go for it. At some point I may develop a formula spreadsheet for it based on team tempo stats and that sort of thing

I have formula's for creating Coaches Tendencies and Player Tendencies as well. If you need those just let me know.

[johnbuckeyefan]

Haven't touched coach tendencies at all and I don't really have a lot of experience with that. If you want to mess with it then by all means go for it. At some point I may develop a formula spreadsheet for it based on team tempo stats and that sort of thing

I have formula's for creating Coaches Tendencies and Player Tendencies as well. If you need those just let me know.

Yes! That's great please send me those

[BEAST10]

I honestly don't believe tendencies should be debated on formulas, I say knowledge about them and footage.
Only ones that can be based off formulas are probably draw foul, and commit foul, shot selection/locations.
On the other hand the coaching profiles can definitely be created with the formulas.
However with such a developing and large project I think people would be fine with it so keep doing what your doing and keep up the great work!

[bigh0rt]

vnardell, your work looks really great bro, i know i've seen your id somewhere, anyway great job man. i played 2 games yesterday, 1 with michigan vs ohio state, the other with texas vs baylor, both games played great, so your work is clear there john, great stuff, but im wondering how can i change some of the shots i'm seeing alot of nba shots that i wanna turn into college shots, is that where reditor might would come in? i seen some pull up's jumpers also that looked really well!

Yes I didn't touch any of the shot animations or anything, I know that I need to make some guys left handed (ie Deshaun Thomas) and some guys right handed (Ben Mclemore) as I didn't touch that either. Have you tried editing the roster in game? If so does it crash the game?

It may just be the sliders I'm using, but I find that players get fatigued very fast. I also find that they don't use much of the clock very much (this can be changed in the coaching tendencies). Otherwise I'm really enjoying a lot of the gameplay.

Tweaking the accessories and shoes is coming along very well. I've got through Notre Dame done with proper colors in the Jerseys tab, players wearing the correct gear and shoes for Home/Away both.

If one of the great modders here could create the Nike 2-tone sleeve, the Nike colored socks (to replace ankle wraps), and turn the shoulder pads to look more like t-shirts, it will start to look even more authentic.

Yeah I probably need to mess with the stamina ratings. What I did was (minutes per game) / 40 * 100, so the stamina rating is basically a percentage of minutes per game that player plays. They are definitely too low though. Also, are t-shirts not already in the game?

Thanks for the feedback on the game, I'm going to do a little more research on how the ratings and tendencies actually affect gameplay so I can make players play more like themselves. My general idea for tendencies is to use 2k's standard play styles (defensive center, 3pt shooting guard etc.) as a base and tweak from there, but I'm going to do some more research.

Edited Jon Horford's skin tone, as it was too light (he was white, when he's really black), and Max Bielfeldt (vice versa -- he's a white boy). Otherwise, Accessories are done with Gonzaga through Michigan, and shoes are done with Gonzaga through Notre Dame. To see some of the shoes, you'll eventually need to download a shoe pack for your Saves folder, like with Alby's roster. I'll attach it in my next post (I'm on my laptop, file is on my desktop).

For stamina, though, don't use MPG. That tells you rotation more than stamina. I'd probably have it go off of the max minutes they've played in a Game, if anything, and have a minimum or 50 or 60 or something like that.

If I can get my hands on certain data, we will be able to make some very realistic portions of ratings for players, at least. I'm going to start scouring and see what I can find. There's a lot less available for NCAA than NBA, I believe, as far as per Min data, zone stuff, etc.

[bigh0rt]

Here is the file with some accessory and shoe edits done... http://www.mediafire.com/?nbt0z7i0lhc0g7b

Again, for accessories, it's done from Gonzaga through Michigan. For shoes, it's Gonzaga through Notre Dame. Try any of those matchups and you should notice a pretty considerable difference. Again, some shoes will be off because they're custom and will need to be included in a download for the shoes documents folder (any shoe that begins 35XX).

Let me know what you think of it, visually.

[mooreskillz]

Another thing I noticed besides stamina is the consistency stat as well. For instance I play a lot with Duke and Seth Curry is very hard to consistently hit 3s with which is obviously not very realistic. It is a great play though I found the update a lot better great work John

[johnbuckeyefan]

I honestly don't believe tendencies should be debated on formulas, I say knowledge about them and footage.
Only ones that can be based off formulas are probably draw foul, and commit foul, shot selection/locations.
On the other hand the coaching profiles can definitely be created with the formulas.
However with such a developing and large project I think people would be fine with it so keep doing what your doing and keep up the great work!

I agree that tendencies should be done subjectively, but I need some sort of a base to start with. I know Fifedawg does good work so his tendency formulas should be a great start, and for ones that can't be done with formulas I'll look at the create-a-player defaults for the different play styles. Then I'll tweak based on feedback and opinions from other people who watch the games.

Here is the file with some accessory and shoe edits done... http://www.mediafire.com/?nbt0z7i0lhc0g7b

Again, for accessories, it's done from Gonzaga through Michigan. For shoes, it's Gonzaga through Notre Dame. Try any of those matchups and you should notice a pretty considerable difference. Again, some shoes will be off because they're custom and will need to be included in a download for the shoes documents folder (any shoe that begins 35XX).

Let me know what you think of it, visually.

Looks good!

Another thing I noticed besides stamina is the consistency stat as well. For instance I play a lot with Duke and Seth Curry is very hard to consistently hit 3s with which is obviously not very realistic. It is a great play though I found the update a lot better great work John

Yes I made everybody the same consistency (60 I think?) because I still don't completely understand how it works, but I'll continue to research it. I also played with Duke and found it hard to consistently hit 3's with Curry at times, but then I got hot with him too. Thanks for the feedback though, this is what I'm talking about!

[johnbuckeyefan]

Also looked at the official NBA 2k stamina ratings, found that most guards have 90+ stamina and most bigs have somewhere between 75 and 85 stamina, so this will be adjusted!

[StormsWarning]

@john, i couldn't recreate the crash, by editing numbers or anything yet/ what team were you when it happen? maybe i can recreate?

[johnbuckeyefan]

@john, i couldn't recreate the crash, by editing numbers or anything yet/ what team were you when it happen? maybe i can recreate?

I think it was in one of my earlier versions, not the final release, but just wanted to make sure it wasn't popping up anymore. When I tried to make Jon Horford (#10 on Michigan) 6'10 and black, when I saved it it crashed, but sounds like that isn't a problem anymore which is good.