Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:52 am
he can't guard ilgauskas: ilgauskas averaged 20.3 points against the pistons last year in only 32 minutes
I'm not sure if I believe those stats
, where did you get it from.
Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:51 am
yeh, ilgauskas is so damn good its unbelievable isn't it 
go to nba.com/cavs, then go to schedule, then 2002-2003 season
go to nba.com/cavs, then go to schedule, then 2002-2003 season
Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:56 pm
Ok, i have looked at 3 cle-det games (were both Ben and Z was in) and calcuted a average for Big Ben and Ilgauskas.
As you see at scores, Ilgauskas wins in scoring and scores the way he normally does, BUT-->
all these 3 games, Big Ben played Forward, So you can't really tell if he did guard Ilgauskas at all, maybe Cliff did that, cuz he played Center.
Ben Wallace kills on the board and get almost 4times more than Ilgauskas, and Ilgauskas himslef only get 5.6 a game (normaly he gets 7.5).
Ilgauskas does well on the blocking but Wallace wins on that on too with almost the twice.
END RESULTS: Zydrunas Ilgauskas is a good player, but Ben Wallace is better.
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ILGAUSKAS WALLACE
PPG:19.6 PPG:11.0
RPG:5.6 RPG:18.0
BPG:2.3 BPG:4.0
As you see at scores, Ilgauskas wins in scoring and scores the way he normally does, BUT-->
all these 3 games, Big Ben played Forward, So you can't really tell if he did guard Ilgauskas at all, maybe Cliff did that, cuz he played Center.
Ben Wallace kills on the board and get almost 4times more than Ilgauskas, and Ilgauskas himslef only get 5.6 a game (normaly he gets 7.5).
Ilgauskas does well on the blocking but Wallace wins on that on too with almost the twice.
END RESULTS: Zydrunas Ilgauskas is a good player, but Ben Wallace is better.
Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:50 pm
Ok, i have looked at 3 cle-det games (were both Ben and Z was in) and calcuted a average for Big Ben and Ilgauskas
ok he averaged 19.7. the other stats are irrelevant because you are arguing that wallace is an amazing defensive player so he should've kept ilgauskas below his average
So you can't really tell if he did guard Ilgauskas at all, maybe Cliff did that, cuz he played Center.
you earlier wrote: (Ben Wallace has)The ability to defend any player in the league
if this is true, why didn't the pistons put wallace on ilgauskas if indeed he didn't play on him?
Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:21 am
if this is true, why didn't the pistons put wallace on ilgauskas if indeed he didn't play on him?
I don't know how Pistons Coach think but maybe they thought that Clifford could handle him.
Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:56 pm
so what are you implying? that you know more about ben wallace than his coaches?
Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:09 am
No, I'm just saying what I think they maybe thought.
Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:21 am
You can't teach height, but I'd still take Ben Over Z. Z's got bad feet so he'll never be as good as advertized. Its called, reality. If i were coaching, I'd never put Ben on Z. I'd rather use ben to punish any PF the Cavs use. No sense on using Ben on Z to slow him down when I can use him on Boozer and shut him down.