The Most Overrated Player in the NBA?

[cheater1034]

I think either Kobe nor LeBron is overrated.
The reason is simple: You can't find a better SG than Kobe or a better SF than LeBron in the League now. and when you can't name a better player than someone, the one shouldn't be called overrated.

I agree with you here ^. Kobe is a SG who shoots and scores, which is what an SG should do (as a cleveland fan, I'm used to seeing larry hughes go 1/30 a night with 5 points - so atleast I think a SG is supposed to make shots). Kobe isn't my favorite player because he's not really a team player, but he is a good player, 45% FG with 35ppg is an impressive stat (if they add another good player and kobe gets along with him then maybe he'll actually win games too, like he did with shaq). I can think of a few good SGs as Dwayne Wade (overrated???) being the only one I can slightly compare to kobe.

D-wade (overrated) is a very good SG, and he did win a ring with shaq just like kobe did, except kobe and shaq won like 3. But Dwade gets all the damn calls from the refs (same with shaq), dwade doesn't get called for a travel unless he gets on his moped and rides to the hoop.

LeBron is not overrated at all, he's a very good young talent and a team player. Not only that, look at the team around him and look where he is. This guy understands situations, and has led his team to where nobody saw possible, the nba finals. I don't think you can say he's overrated.

[grusom]

Most overrated?
Try a seven-foot shooter that's touted as the next Larry Bird yet chokes in the first round of a playoff series, especially in the crucial game.

Whoever compares Dirk Nowitzki to Larry Bird should be hanged from the balls.

Dirk is a very good player, but the only simularity to Larry is that he can shoot and he is white.

Whenever a white guy makes an all-star team, he is "the next Larry Bird", and whenever a black SG get MVP consideration, he is the next MJ. Remember how Van Horn was called "The great white hope" during his rookie season? That's how desperate the media is to find a white NBA poster boy.

[Lean]

Whenever a white guy makes an all-star team, he is "the next Larry Bird", and whenever a black SG get MVP consideration, he is the next MJ. Remember how Van Horn was called "The great white hope" during his rookie season? That's how desperate the media is to find a white NBA poster boy.

And wears #23 too.

[NBAFanatic23]

weejontee,
Scoring 81 poitns doesnt show anything more then being a ball hog. And I meant......McGrady is lazy on Defense....And Yes...Vince Carter could average 35 PPG easily. All Vince Carter needs is the ball 7 more times max and hed have higher then 35 PPG, gurantee you.
volsey,
Check the stats man, Kobe IS overated. He does NOT post anything over a season that would even begin to make him look like best player in NBA besides PPG.
And I said further down I like Lebron in Magic's mindset more then Mike's......Never said Lebron was bad because of this actually I praise Lebron of his mindset at his age.

I agree LeBron's mindset is more like Magic's than Jordan's cause he has that pass-first mentality. But thats about the only thing I'm agreeing on with you.

Vince Carter would not average 35 a game because he isn't motivated enough to do it. With Jason Kidd on his team surely he should be averaging more than just 25 a game. He's so relaxed some nights he plays its like he doesn't even wanna be there. Also if Vince Carter is so much better than Kobe how come he's only got 2 All-NBA team selections whereas Kobe has made 9 plus 7 All-Defensive.

And I've checked the stats. Kobe averaged 35.4PPG last season. If he was taking all the shots and only averaging 35 a game surely he'd have somethin like a .300 FG% but he has a .450 FG% which sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Whoa whoa whoa, he should be averaging more than 25 point per game? On the New Jersey Nets? He doesn't have to do that, because surrounding players help with the scoring a bit. Jason Kidd can sometimes go off from 3, RJ can go for 20+ on any given night, and players like Mikki Moore, Bostjan Nachbar, Eddie House, and Josh Boone can all score as well. So don't even start to say that Vince should be averaging more than 25 PPG, as he doesn't need to like Kobe sometimes needs to do. Vince also helps his team unlike Kobe does in other catergories, such as rebounding and assists. Carter has achieved at least one triple-double this year, and has become a much better passer since coming to the Nets. Carter is not overrater at all, as he has achieved in many different cateragories other than scoring.

[NBAFanatic23]

Double post, my bad.

[maes]

Air Canada is 30 years old, has to play 38 minutes per game, scores 25 points on very accurate 45% FG and 36% 3P%. He hustles 6 rpg, which is extremely high for a SG. He looks for his teammates, 4.8 apg is also very high considering Kidd has the ball most of the time.

His total efficiency stat is #19 in the league, and he's the #1 EFF guard that is not the team's primary ballhandler. The other guards higher ranked on EFF are Bryant, Nash, Wade, and Arenas.

Judging his productivity by how he "looks" when he plays is not a good idea, look at what he actually produces. Duncan looks totally bored out there as well but he ends up owning the paint by the game's end.

[Silas]

Overrated? Ray Allen comes to mind. I might be completely wrong (haven't been paying much attention to the NBA) but he seems pretty soft to me. Sure, he can score with the best of them, but he shoots too damn much. I always thought of him as more concerned about how his jumper looks than actually being focused on putting the ball in the hole.

Absolutely not. Ray Allen is far, far, far from overrated. He's one of the most underrated players in the league. He carries the sonics, and he's the best perimeter shooter in the league. What is his most important asset, which is widely overlooked, is his class and leadership. He's the leader of his team on and off the court and few superstars conduct themselves in a professional manner as well as he does.

[fruitcake21]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOT AUSSIES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NovU]

i don't think Vince carter is overrated cuz nobody thinks he's one of the top class no more anyways. he can hold his own but just not on same lvl as kobe/tmac. but i think aussies in this forum r overrated!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO

[shadowgrin]

Zanshadow's intelligence is overrated and his retardation is underrated.

[Sauru]

when did we hit a point in the nba where people thought 25 ppg was bad? if you are not over 30 you are not doing good enough?

[Air Zoom Kobe I]

I believe Vince Carter has to be the most overrated. In big moments like the Toronto series and Cleveland series, he doesn't seem to score when it matters most. He fades in big moments when they look to him to lead, therefore putting the scoring AND playmaking burden on Jason Kidd. Mike Miller is also overrated because in the 3 seasons Memphis made it to the playoffs, eveyone said that he's gonna dominate. In '04 they said he would destoy Ginobili in the 1st round. ''05 they said Joe Johnson can't mess with him. '06 off the bench they said he's an X-Factor. He did little to help. He missed 3 potential gamewinners in the playoffs. 1 against the Spurs, 1 against the Suns, and 1 against the Mavs. Those are the leagues 2 most Overrated players

EDIT: Forgot about D-Fake. 1 hit wonder. He showed what he could do by himself. Wouldn't be nothing without the reft or his 50 million foul shots a game

[OG24]

Baron Davis or Yao Ming

[Donatello]

Even though I quite like the guy (alot), Steve Blake is getting way too much hype lately.

[cyanide]

Zanshadow's intelligence is overrated and his retardation is underrated.

The latter I'd agree with, but his intelligence overrated? Please, nobody talks about his intelligence.

[Gundy]

Baron Davis or Yao Ming

Fuck explaining why, just say it.

[Sauru]

Baron Davis or Yao Ming

Fuck explaining why, just say it.

yeah i gotta agree, how are these 2 overrated? i would have given you yao a couple seasons ago but i dont see him being overrated now.

[OG24]

yao is kind of overrated he is expected to do alot and he does not! he is 7'6' for gods sake!!! if i was that that i would be shitting on my defenders! and also just cause Davis dunked on AK47 doesn't make him a all star he is fat and overweight and will never be as good as he was with the charlotte hornets! don't flame me jus take wut i said into consideration....

[Gundy]

^Yao averages 25 and 10. What more do you want? Jesus... Baron just had one of his best seasons statistically. Better than any season he had in Charlotte I might add. He can score, pass, and rebound...a true triple-double threat on any given night. What retard would judge him on some dunk he did? Yao is the best center in the league and Baron is the best point guard IMO. Neither is overrated.

[Dro]

Yao is the best center in the league and Baron is the best point guard IMO. Neither is overrated.

Agreed with everything you said, then you said what I quoted above. I see how you can make an argument for Yao being the best center in the league (I'd disagree), but Baron the best PG? Not even close. Nash and Kidd are leagues ahead of Baron, and Chris Paul and Deron Williams are just as good.

[dan_suth]

EDIT: Forgot about D-Fake. 1 hit wonder. He showed what he could do by himself. Wouldn't be nothing without the reft or his 50 million foul shots a game

Kobe Bryant. He has really shown what he can do by himself. Is absolutely nothing without Shaq or an excellent supporting cast.

[Gundy]

Yea...you're probably right about Baron not being the best...but he's gotta be top five. I'll be honest...I didn't really believe it when I said it...I got a little bit ahead of myself. Who do you think is better than Yao? Shaq?

[Air Zoom Kobe I]

EDIT: Forgot about D-Fake. 1 hit wonder. He showed what he could do by himself. Wouldn't be nothing without the reft or his 50 million foul shots a game

Kobe Bryant. He has really shown what he can do by himself. Is absolutely nothing without Shaq or an excellent supporting cast.

You can say the EXACT same thing 4 Wade because in the playoffs he got swept while Shaq was injured. Wade nor Shaq will get another ring. 1-hit wonders. Wade was jacking up unneccesary shots. Kobe has a reason for that because there are only 2 other good players on there team. Wade has a decent supporting cast in J-Will, Walker, Posey, Dorell Wright, etc. etc. He could have trusted them with the ball. Kobe has no one to trust besides Lamar Odom

[Dro]

Yea...you're probably right about Baron not being the best...but he's gotta be top five. I'll be honest...I didn't really believe it when I said it...I got a little bit ahead of myself. Who do you think is better than Yao? Shaq?

Nah, I don't consider Shaq the best center in the game anymore...not by a longshot. Yao may put up the best numbers, but he's not as dominant as Amare Stoudemire. If I had to pick a center to win a game with, I'd pick Amare Stoudemire, the man who put up 38 and 12 in game 6 against the Spurs rather than the guy who was shut down by Mehmet Okur in the first round.

[Gundy]

Can't argue with you there...It's just that I still think of him as a power forward which is why I excluded him when I said Yao.