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Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:38 pm

Axel wrote:
Perhaps Delfino could develop into a Turkoglu type of player for the Raptors?

If so, Colangelo pulled off a major steal.

No... not at all...
Turkoglu can shoot, delfino cant. Delfino can play defence, Turkoglu cant. The only similarity is the fact theyre both white euros...

This is a horrible trade for Detroit, a fantastic one for Toronto. I'm looking forward to what Joe decides to do, because this MUST have been a preliminary move for something good...
It cant get much worse...


I agree i think some serious moves are going to take place at Detroit and this was just a start, also i hope he becomes a great player and he is nothing like turkoglu, considering he isn't a shooter and more of a slasher type player that will fit well with the raptors, can't wait for the off-season, Draft and next season :D

Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:42 pm

all i gotta say is FUCK!!!!!!!!
although, i'm kind of happy for Delf....yesterday i actually said i'd rather see him traded then waste away on our bench. He's got some awesome potential.

I haven't seen Delfino play enough to have a good impression on him, but according to his stats, he doesn't exactly stand out (no I wasn't expecting big numbers, but they seem rather ordinary). Who wants to give me a scouting report on this guy?


he's athletic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEY2gP1UGIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bl1AJqbdh0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy-6b9QiS8E&NR=1
and this beauty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yGCHA8MJwY

He's a good defender, best suited @ the 2. Offensively he's best as a 3. He is not a spot up shooter as Saunders tried to make him. In fact, his shooting is streaky. He can drive to the hoop though pretty strong, which should suite the raptors well with all their spot up shooters. His defence is pretty good, definattely above average. He has a nose for rebounds.

The only similarity is the fact theyre both white euros...


actually Turk is Euro, Carlos is Argentine

Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:51 pm

el badman wrote:
Peterson has silently become disgruntled at his lack of playing time and with Sam Mitchell, so he'll probably elect to sign somewhere else.

Yeah, after this season I figured Mo Pete might be going soon.
Graham is a pretty strange player, I really thought that by now he would have developed into this very athletic player at least able to drive to the hoop with strength and high %, but that doesn't seem to happen...He did play a few good games, grabbing a bunch of rebounds and stuff, but he's so freaking inconsistent...


The only thing that limits Graham is his dribbling. He isn't very assertive and shies away from attacking the basket because he's such a poor dribbler. He has a pretty solid first step and can blow by a lot of guys, but he can't take more than 2 or 3 sluggish dribbles which allows his defender to catch up to him. He panics and he shoots an akward mid range jumper that goes in occasionally.

I'm still rooting for the guy because he clearly has a lot of athletic gifts, but his biggest weakness (dribbling) pretty much negates all of his strengths (his quickness, strength and leaping ability).

Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:28 pm

A very interesting trade, and a very good one for Toronto. I remember, when he played in Europe he was great, but, besides flashes, didn't turn out the player Pistons needed. I believe he can still break out and become a great slashing guard.

Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:39 pm

Should be interseting and i am still hoping he goes great considering the Raptors are probably my second team as of such. What was he like in Europe, did he dominate? what kind of numbers did he get? did you watch much of him? Fill me in with the goss :lol:

Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:52 pm

I think this could be the second coming of Darko. watch him break out in a few seasons. that would be awesome.


this could possibly make room for the Pistons to draft a similar type player this year like an Aaron Afflalo or Morris Almond.

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:13 pm

Well he played in Italy and didn't really monster stats, abou 12-15 points average, but he played in one of the strongest European clubs and had some amazing performances.

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:30 pm

I think this could be the second coming of Darko. watch him break out in a few seasons. that would be awesome.


this could possibly make room for the Pistons to draft a similar type player this year like an Aaron Afflalo or Morris Almond.


Yeh true or even take Rodney Stuckey earlier at 15 or even javaris Crit... should be good to see how delfino fines out

Well he played in Italy and didn't really monster stats, abou 12-15 points average, but he played in one of the strongest European clubs and had some amazing performances.


Thanks for the scouting report man seems like he looked like a good player. By the way there is an Aussie who has been doing workouts in the NBA by the name of Brad Newley and i have followed his prgress in the NBL (austrlian basketball league) he seems like a good player averages about 22 points a game and good passer, quick, good shooter, good driver, good free throw shooter expect him to go late in the draft and maybe be a Delfino type player (Y)

Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:14 pm

Fire Flop! wrote:
The only similarity is the fact theyre both white euros...


actually Turk is Euro, Carlos is Argentine

Isnt Argentinia in Europe? I hate that Flip fucked up the devlopment of Fino, just like I hate that Brown fucked up the development of Darko.

If only Joe could draft someone that fits the coaches system...

Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:39 pm

Laxation wrote:
Fire Flop! wrote:
The only similarity is the fact theyre both white euros...


actually Turk is Euro, Carlos is Argentine

Isnt Argentinia in Europe? I hate that Flip fucked up the devlopment of Fino, just like I hate that Brown fucked up the development of Darko.


Man, I hope that was a joke.

Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:32 am

Well there you go... I always assumed Argentina was a euro country...

Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:09 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina - here you go.

Sorry about the comment. What's Europe and what's not is probably not as obvious for people not living here :-)

Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:14 am

Well there you go... I always assumed Argentina was a euro country...

:shock:
What's Europe and what's not is probably not as obvious for people not living here

Yeah, but Argentina??

Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:28 am

Laxation wrote:Well there you go... I always assumed Argentina was a euro country...


I actually thought that too for a while years back. It sounds like someplace close to Antarctica :lol:

Anyway, it's a very nice addition for Toronto, but I don't think Colangelo is done trading yet. Mo-Pete might be traded next, and maybe one or two of the scrubs.

Toronto is definitely becoming more of an internationally flavored team.

Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:28 am

i was hoping we'd at least switch Mo-pete for Delfino...that way we at least get back an established scorer off the bench.

However, this deal sounds like the start of some fairly significant moves in Mo-town.

Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:08 am

Laxation wrote:Well there you go... I always assumed Argentina was a euro country...


Ignortant Australians. :shake: jk, just switching that old American stereotype around here

Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:25 am

Laxation wrote:Well there you go... I always assumed Argentina was a euro country...


Oh wow. That's amazing.

Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:41 am

Laxation wrote:Well there you go... I always assumed Argentina was a euro country...


Wow... just wow.

Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:59 am

At first I thought he was joking. Then I read some of the responses and...do you guys live under a rock?

Maradonna is a Euro? Please tell me you know who Maradonna is. :(

Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:37 am

Madonna? Isn't that the girl who married JFK?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:40 pm

Perhaps Detroit has something else cooking but as far as this trade is concerned, Toronto got the better end of the deal. If the Pistons luck out and the picks yield quality players or can be packaged in a shrewd deal that might change but given they're a couple of second rounders that are two and four years down the road, they're expendable for a backup player.

Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:04 pm

I think he will work pretty well in the Raptors system and will he become Peterson's replacement or is he re-signing this year?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:10 am

Delfino its a pretty good player , he can steal the ball , drive and dunk.

He need to improve his shoot , i think he will fit perfectly in this team ...

Since manu , nocioni , herrmann and oberto will not play for argentina this year Carlos will be the star , so wait to the FIBA AMERICAS tournament ....

Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:41 am

weejontee wrote:I think he will work pretty well in the Raptors system and will he become Peterson's replacement or is he re-signing this year?


Pretty much all signs point to his departure. Peterson's production really dropped off this year as a result of his inconsistent minutes. His iron man streak is also snapped this year most likely due to friction with Sam Mitchell and recieved many DNP-CDs for a player of his calibre.

Hell, even Colangelo stated that Peterson sucked this year and wasn't sure he would be back.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:21 am

Delfino its a pretty good player , he can steal the ball , drive and dunk.

He need to improve his shoot , i think he will fit perfectly in this team ...

I didn't check his %, but I believe he is pretty solid behind the 3pt line, isn't he?
Pretty much all signs point to his departure. Peterson's production really dropped off this year as a result of his inconsistent minutes. His iron man streak is also snapped this year most likely due to friction with Sam Mitchell and recieved many DNP-CDs for a player of his calibre.

That's too bad cuz for a while, he really looked like he would become an All-Star at some point. That guy can have some serious shooting streaks...
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