Apple Talk Thread

[magius]

i just ordered a macbook pro, and I'm looking to sell the base ram which is basically 2x1 gb of 667MHz ddr2 sdram, but i have a couple of questions before doing so... does anyone know what brand apple uses, i.e. what should i post it as if selling via ebay/craigslist, and any pricing recommendations?

thanks guys, just thought i'd take a shot and post here in case anyone knew anything.

[BigKaboom2]

I don't know the answer, but why would you want to sell that? Nothing really requires more than 2 GB of DDR2.

[magius]

i'll be using the mbp for programs like final cut pro studio (hopefully 2) after effects, and other motion programs with possibly some protools and 3d programs which will feel the ram greatly. so I'm looking to sell it as I am most likely going to buy 2x2 kingston ram to bring me up to 4. if it were just for gaming, photoshop, word processing, and the web i'd agree with you, but the added speed will make a difference for the programs i intend to use quite intensely.

[cyanide]

For video work, it's always a good idea to go for some more RAM. Look into buying RAM from OWC (www.macsales.com), where I bought my 4 GB from, or from Crucial. Kingston is pretty pricey if I remember correctly. With the leftover RAM, I'm not sure what brand it is (from what I know, it's just "Apple RAM") but you might be able to sell it to OWC for some bucks, or maybe an Apple Store takes it. Other than that, eBay or craigslist is the way to go.

[Joe']

I believe Apple's hardware pieces are all made by Apple (except for the processors which are made by Intel.)
If you're gonna sell it on eBay, list it as "Apple Macbook Pro DDR2 RAM memory" or something like that.

Anyway, as BigKaboom already asked, why would you sell 2GB DDR2 RAM? That's like all you could ask from a laptop computer.

I'd understand if you ordered a Mac Pro or an Xserve, which actually require from 3 to 8GB of RAM memory if you run heavy "work applications" like AutoCAD and Illustrator at the same time, all the time (the more the applications, the more RAM you need. They actually sell Mac Pro's with up to 16GB DDR2 RAM,) but a Macbook Pro doesn't really need more than 1 or 2GB of RAM since I don't assume you're gonna use it for work all the time.

EDIT: Nevermind my question, I didn't see your second post

[cyanide]

Btw, magius, you picked the best time to order a new Macbook Pro They just released the new ones recently. I finally got myself to order a new Mac Pro last week, and jeez, I love it. OS X rocks.

Joe: They actually tested the Mac Pro with 4 GB RAM modules, and it actually ran up to 32 GB of RAM Though, that's just a total waste of money.

[magius]

yeah, i know, i've been waiting for quite awhile, and the new update pretty much fulfills all i've been waiting for ever since i started using osx, I feel somewhat empty using windows, lol. what kind of mac pro did you get? i'm tres excited, waiting for my mbp to come in. i'm gonna hold a press conference and everything.

also, the question still applies if anyone knows better and price points would be appreciated if you know anything off the top of your head. i've done some research, but it wouldn't hurt to hear other people's pov.

[cyanide]

It's in my sig: a quad-core 2.66 GHz with 5 gigs of RAM, good enough to run Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Flash, and Dreamweaver for my graphic design business. I recently graduated, so it's a solid investment that'll last me for many years. Also, I got the 30" Apple Cinema HD monitor

If you're selling the RAM, I'd sell it high, but I have no clue how much you should sell it for. Sell high, the demand is there, and Apple products always have a higher re-sale value.

[Joe']

Holy Christ, 32GB of DDR RAM? That's insane! What's it for anyway? And I didn't even know 4GB modules actually existed

I'm getting an iMac whenever they release OS X here in Europe (that's probably around Christmas time since they're releasing it in Q4 of 2007 in North America.) I don't know if I can wait that much though, I'm just too excited: I tested GarageBand with my guitar plugged yesterday, and man, it's amazing how that thing can turn a 200$ guitar into a 1950 Les Paul. It's just too cool.

Magius: 1GB Apple RAM modules are actually as high as 100€ each at the Apple Stores here in Italy.

[cyanide]

I don't think there's any practical use for 32 GB of RAM except for DNA scientists or anything that requires extreme number crunching, but it was just tested to see if it worked on a Mac Pro–and it does. 4GB modules are insanely expensive right now.

You mean OS X Leopard? I'm damned happy with Tiger, and I wouldn't mind paying that $40 upgrade cost if it means getting it in October. Leopard should be awesome, though. They're supposed to release more details on Leopard during WWDC (starting on Monday!)

[magius]

if i were for you I wouldn't wait primarily for leopard. it might take a month or two or more to become truly stable, and besides it is not THAT expensive.

i do wonder what the "surprise" feature that jobs will be probably introducing at wwdc is though. though it may just be marketing.... remember when the segway was gonna revolutionize the world?

[Joe']

Yeah, I meant OS X 10.5 (I forgot to write that lol...)
I heard that, since Leopard is fully 64-bit, it'll need specific hardware they'll manufacture to go with it or something like that.
That's why I'm waiting to get my iMac; I'm worried it could run slower when updated to Leopard.
This could be totally untrue though, I just heard it from a guy that works at an Apple Store here in Milan.

Anyway, Leopard's awesome, all the new apps it comes with are just too useful. Not to mention the '08 version of iLife that should be getting lots of new features in every single application.

if i were for you I wouldn't wait primarily for leopard. it might take a month or two or more to become truly stable, and besides it is not THAT expensive.

That's okay with me... With Apple Update you get OS updates too, and it might be as early as 10.5.1 that Leopard will get truly stable since they actually delayed its release of five months. I figure that by '08, 10.5.1 will be out and Leopard will be stable.

[cyanide]

i do wonder what the "surprise" feature that jobs will be probably introducing at wwdc is though. though it may just be marketing.... remember when the segway was gonna revolutionize the world?

Most likely a new Finder It could be support for touch screen displays. Microsoft's already working on that: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ and I've heard for a long time that Apple's working on it.

it might be as early as 10.5.1 that Leopard will get truly stable since they actually delayed its release of five months.

Good point. They do get plenty of time to work on it now that the iPhone will be dealt with.

Maybe this thread could also be called the Apple Talk Thread?

[magius]

Yeah, I meant OS X 10.5 (I forgot to write that lol...)
I heard that, since Leopard is fully 64-bit, it'll need specific hardware they'll manufacture to go with it or something like that.
That's why I'm waiting to get my iMac; I'm worried it could run slower when updated to Leopard.
This could be totally untrue though, I just heard it from a guy that works at an Apple Store here in Milan.

Anyway, Leopard's awesome, all the new apps it comes with are just too useful. Not to mention the '08 version of iLife that should be getting lots of new features in every single application.

well, i know the mbp is fully compatible with 64 bit, and i am sure the imac is 64 bit ready, but as the saying goes, if you can wait - then wait. just make sure you buy it sometime before you die! and if you don't, all the power to you, you probably didn't need it, eh? i don't think leopard would run slower, considering it was originally slated to release before or at the same time as these machines. but i guess, hypothetically, it will run slower because of the updated technology when it comes out - all behold the new 3800 core intel wolverine metal fused kryptonite processor. anyhow, i figure updated ilife will be coming soon, perhaps monday? so i guess that could be worth it.

Most likely a new Finder It could be support for touch screen displays. Microsoft's already working on that: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ and I've heard for a long time that Apple's working on it.

what? a finder?! i thought it was gonna be a holographic keyboard and mouse.... damn.

Maybe this thread could also be called the Apple Talk Thread?

yes, with all three of us it would be kind of like the chicago bulls thread. only hipper, and at the same time, strangely, geekier.

[Joe']

anyhow, i figure updated ilife will be coming soon, perhaps monday?

I sure hope they release iLife '08 before 2008, but I think it'll come out when Leopard comes out.

...It could be support for touch screen displays...

Touch-screen Mac's already exist even if not directly manufactured by Apple (I believe it's authorized by Apple though.)
Here's the link. It's a modified MacBook called ModBook.
Search for it on YouTube, you'll find some demos.

yes, with all three of us it would be kind of like the chicago bulls thread. only hipper, and at the same time, strangely, geekier.

We could advertise on other threads to bring more people here; Something like a huge "TONS OF GIRLS ARE WAITING FOR YOU, COME JOIN THE APPLE TALK THREAD" text

[cyanide]

yes, with all three of us it would be kind of like the chicago bulls thread. only hipper, and at the same time, strangely, geekier.

I changed the thread title (obviously, since there's a few captial letters. Sauru would not be pleased ) There's a few more Mac fans on this thread, Ty-Land and Cervantes come to mind.

Touch-screen Mac's already exist even if not directly manufactured by Apple (I believe it's authorized by Apple though.)
Here's the link. It's a modified MacBook called ModBook.
Search for it on YouTube, you'll find some demos.

Hot damn, I didn't know those things existed. Thanks for the link!

[magius]

i've changed the title to simply "apple talk thread" to show my newfound apple hipness. itz snazzy. next we can change the color scheme.

wondering.... i'm getting somewhat different feedback here from others, is there a real, viable long-term difference between buying the cheaper (yet still recommended) brand ram such as ocw over the more expensive brands, i.e. kingston, crucical, mushkin? I know a lot of smart people who swear by those brands, but I am just wondering if I am paying for any distinct difference other than, simply, the logo?

[Ty-Land]

I picked up a Macbook in March. Best investment I have ever purchased. Perfect for my study needs. Works like a dream. Does everything I require it to do for uni and has exceptional battery life when I take it to class. Garage band is good fun, and surprisingly very good quality. When I get more free time I must play with it some more.

The goal is this laptop lasts me through the rest of uni course (years 5, 6 and 7 ) which will be year of research on the Holocaust and Genocide (ending with a thesis), and the end of my law degree. Then, when I finally start earning some cash, I will pick up a Macbook pro or the equivalent, and hook it up with a top quality audio interface for recording purposes.

Anybody got any cool apps running that are essential or worth checking out?

[cyanide]

wondering.... i'm getting somewhat different feedback here from others, is there a real, viable long-term difference between buying the cheaper (yet still recommended) brand ram such as ocw over the more expensive brands, i.e. kingston, crucical, mushkin? I know a lot of smart people who swear by those brands, but I am just wondering if I am paying for any distinct difference other than, simply, the logo?

I've been reading on macrumors.com for a while, and OWC is recommended. I'm running my extra 4GB with OWC, and no problems at all. Bearfeats recommends OWC, and they swear by them. The price difference is pretty much, brand. If you get OWC, get the Apple-certified one if you want basically the same kind of RAM Apple is using.

Anybody got any cool apps running that are essential or worth checking out?

Everything OS X comes with is almost everything I need, other than CS3. Google Earth, Cyberduck (FTP client), NeoOffice (free MS Office replacement), and Transmission (bitorrent client) are the only add-ons I have, other than video codecs and additional browsers. I love the built-in dictionary/thesaurus.

Tomorrow's the first day of the WWDC, which means we'll finally find out all the features that Leopard will have

[Ty-Land]

Anybody got any cool apps running that are essential or worth checking out?

Everything OS X comes with is almost everything I need, other than CS3. Google Earth, Cyberduck (FTP client), NeoOffice (free MS Office replacement), and Transmission (bitorrent client) are the only add-ons I have, other than video codecs and additional browsers. I love the built-in dictionary/thesaurus.

Tomorrow's the first day of the WWDC, which means we'll finally find out all the features that Leopard will have

I've got Office running on mine, works like a dream and has nifty features that the windows version does not. Got it cheap cause I'm a student. I've got cyberduck, but haven't used it yet. I've got Azerus for torrents, which works alright. What is Transmission like? Would you recommend?

I use the in-built dictionary and thesaurus all the time. So helpful when typing an essay to hit F12 and find a better word to contend my argument.

Looking forward to some info on Leopard. Hopefully I'm not broke when it comes out so I can afford to update. Will be interesting what the new features will bring to what is already the best OS.

[magius]

historically mac os isn't super expensive so you should be fine.

you probably know about toast, but if you don't it is pretty mandatory. hmmm, what else? theres also a decent audio program that allows you to rip from any source called audio hi-jack pro. obviously cs3 is a must, and neoffice is apparently better on a mac and free. parallels is also good if you're not playing windows games. and vlc is a must. heres a good thread for pretty standard things people install:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=298063

apparently transmission is more for "everyday use" and azereus for "advanced use," so im guessing if you use a private torrent site that tracks stuff azereus is probably a better choice (transmission i think is banned with some), otherwise transmission is probably better with less cpu usage, and a cleaner, simpler interface. you pretty much have 3 good choices for torrents on a mac: azereus, transmission, and bitcomet.

also i found this on macrumors (looks like quicksilver is pretty popular, i'll have to try it out):

- Firefox - at the moment a better (IMO) browser then Safari, remember the two essential extentions: SpellBound and Adblock. If you need any search engines (like AcidSearch), just make them.
- Vienna - RSS reader that has completely made me forget Safari.
- Meteorologist - weather forcast in the menu bar.
- iSnip - extended clipboard, also in the menu bar.
- SpiritedAway - hides inactive apps after a given time. Priceless on a small screen.
- Quicksilver - a launcher that has changed the way I use my Mac, it has rendered the Dock almost obsolete.
- TextWrangler (or SubEthaEdit), free and amazing text editor(s).
- AbiWord - might be my permanent preferred word processor.
- Adium X - a very good free multi protocol IM client, though I don't use it much, all the time spend here at MR prevents that.
- Conversation - a nice Mac-like IR client.
- XRG - monitor your Mac from the desktop, doesn't use too much resources.
- Cyberduck - nice little GUI s/ftp client.
- OmniDiskSweeper - great little tool from the OmniGroup for finding (and removing) all the junk off your HD. Free one day licences available from the Omni site.
- TinkerTool - a great way to access many of the hidden options in Mac OS X (how could I forget that) without having to use the Terminal.

[Ty-Land]

That's really helpful. Cheers

[Jackal]

Hey guys, I just came in here to see if there was any porn. Given there isn't, debate away.

Geeks.

[Ty-Land]

Hey guys, I just came in here to see if there was any porn. Given there isn't, debate away.

Geeks.

I was just waiting for you to post in here, knowing your hatred of Apple products.

Sorry for the lack of porn. We get of on apps and other fancy technological feats.

[Jackal]

Hehe, you were really waiting?

I don't hate Apple, I really don't. Maybe I've come across like that because I don't like Joe, but that's got nothing to do with Apple. Only Joe.

I'm a live & let live type of person when it comes to technology, what works for me is fine with me, what works for others, more power to them.

What I do dislike is how society has "accepted" Apple. How Apple advertises itself. They're more of a fashion statement opposed to what they really should be, ease of use and functionality. I'm probably wording this wrong, but my gripe is more about the people that gobble up anything Apple farts out.

The iPhone could suck monkey nuts and it'll still sell. That's just how gullible people are. Live more like Tyler Durden I say. Not like I follow it, I've succumbed to the fact I've pussied out.

Ehm, end rant. Bye, love you. XXOXOXO.