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Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:42 am

It was an awesome performance, no doubt...but the absolute best?

To be honest i'm more impressed w/ Iverson's performance:
44 points
15 assists
---
74 points of total contribution, 72% FG
vs the Phoenix Suns who are fully healthy.
All regulation.

Kobe:
65 points
3 assists
---
71 points of total contribution, 58% FG
vs a lottery team of mostly rookies.
required 1 OT.

I'm not saying it wasn't great...but Iverson's game vs a title contender amazes me even more.

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:24 am

maes wrote:It was an awesome performance, no doubt...but the absolute best?

To be honest i'm more impressed w/ Iverson's performance:
44 points
15 assists
---
74 points of total contribution, 72% FG
vs the Phoenix Suns who are fully healthy.
All regulation.

Kobe:
65 points
3 assists
---
71 points of total contribution, 58% FG
vs a lottery team of mostly rookies.
required 1 OT.

I'm not saying it wasn't great...but Iverson's game vs a title contender amazes me even more.


It's not just the fact that he scored 65 points, but also his amazing play during the end of the game where they were down by 7 or something...THAT was amazing to watch.

Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:18 pm

Here we go again. Some of yall are just plain pathetic really...like broken records repeating the same rubbish everytime somebody says something good about Kobe. Wow, I suppose Dallas, Phoenix and all the other teams in the NBA get 5 20pt scorers each and every game.... Yall need to get that pickle out yalls a-holes. :lol:

Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:41 pm

ANOTHER 50 POINT GAME AGAINST THE T-WOLVES. :D

Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:21 pm

RapsPlayoffs wrote:duncan may be very fundamentally sound(or whatever), but he does not posess the skills that kobe has


that is true, but generally shorter guys are more skilled than taller guys

Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:34 pm

lakerskobe247 wrote:ANOTHER 50 POINT GAME AGAINST THE T-WOLVES. :D


Anybody can have 50 point games if they shoot 35 shots a night :roll:

It would of been impressive if he shot over 50% IMO. Any star in the NBA who shoots 35 shots will have that many points.

Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:53 pm

cheater1034 wrote:
lakerskobe247 wrote:ANOTHER 50 POINT GAME AGAINST THE T-WOLVES. :D


Anybody can have 50 point games if they shoot 35 shots a night :roll:

It would of been impressive if he shot over 50% IMO. Any star in the NBA who shoots 35 shots will have that many points.

Wade once took 36 shots for 43 points. Lebron once took 35 shots and scored 37 points. Lebron once took 34 shots for 35 points. T-mac once took 37 shots for 37 points. MJ once took 38 for 43 points. Your statement is not necessarily true.

Wow, Kobe shot 49% instead of 50%. What a big deal. He's a ballhog now. :roll:

Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:32 pm

Yeah, what the hell is wrong with you? He's always been a ballhog.

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:19 pm

Why do people consistently bash Kobe whenever he plays well. His team are on a 9 game losing streak or something like that and they want Kobe do something and now he does something and he's getting little credit. I don't get some people on this forum

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:36 pm

Exactly, no wonder there's no peace on Earth.

Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:07 pm

cheater1034 wrote:Anybody can have 50 point games if they shoot 35 shots a night :roll:

It would of been impressive if he shot over 50% IMO. Any star in the NBA who shoots 35 shots will have that many points.


Maybe you ought to ask LeBron to shoot 35 every night, this way you might be able to "witness" success. :wink:

Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:31 pm

The fact is, Lebron doesn't need to shoot 35 in a game, he can share the ball. Besides, his team is actually WINNING.

Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:31 pm

Currently the best player in the world, no comment, he is fucking amazing! (Y)

Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:50 am

Gedas wrote:The fact is, Lebron doesn't need to shoot 35 in a game, he can share the ball. Besides, his team is actually WINNING.


kobe's team won right? so what if he shot 35 shots? if they got blown out then you got a point but if they playing close competitive basketball then nothing is wrong with kobe shooting 35shots. If they lost by 50 like philly did to houston did then there might be a problem.

Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:07 am

Gedas wrote:The fact is, Lebron doesn't need to shoot 35 in a game, he can share the ball. Besides, his team is actually WINNING.


The words blah blah blah came to mind. Then again, that always happens when I read your post.

Kobe can't share the ball? Seriously, do you guys live under rocks or are you stuck in some sort of time warp? Anyways, since you brought it up without even giving a second glance to what you were saying...

Kobe's averaging 5.6 assists a game and BronBron's got 5.9. Yeah, that makes worlds of a difference. Gedas, go stick your head up Sarunas' ass again. :?

Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:15 am

Jackal wrote:
cheater1034 wrote:Anybody can have 50 point games if they shoot 35 shots a night :roll:

It would of been impressive if he shot over 50% IMO. Any star in the NBA who shoots 35 shots will have that many points.


Maybe you ought to ask LeBron to shoot 35 every night, this way you might be able to "witness" success. :wink:



LOL :lol:

Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:23 am

#12 wrote:
RapsPlayoffs wrote:duncan may be very fundamentally sound(or whatever), but he does not posess the skills that kobe has


that is true, but generally shorter guys are more skilled than taller guys



Dear God, does this really say what i think it says? Comparing a SG to a PF/C is like to use a cliche apples and oranges. Each position requires different skills and therefore "shorter guys" are not more skilled than "taller guys"...due to their role on the team they need to be better at different things. Remember the record for points in a game is held by a big man. Are you trying to tell me Wilt wasnt skilled just because he didnt shoot falling down fadeaway jumpers like kobe can?

Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:30 am

weejontee wrote:Why do people consistently bash Kobe whenever he plays well. His team are on a 9 game losing streak or something like that and they want Kobe do something and now he does something and he's getting little credit. I don't get some people on this forum


I totally agree with that, if Tim Duncan or someone like that would have done exactly the same game, he would have been applaused as a hero by everyone.

cheater1034 wrote:
lakerskobe247 wrote:ANOTHER 50 POINT GAME AGAINST THE T-WOLVES. :D


Anybody can have 50 point games if they shoot 35 shots a night :roll:

It would of been impressive if he shot over 50% IMO. Any star in the NBA who shoots 35 shots will have that many points.


The difference between last year's Kobe is that last year he always took 35 shots, and his team losed even with that, whereas this year, he only takes 35 shoots when his team needs these shots, since all his high score games came up in very close wins (a 7 point win vs. Wolves, and 5 point win vs. Blazers). This is why Kobe is a lot better from last year, and I really think he is the best player of the ligue right now (and I used to hate him, but this year he is ssooooo good!)

Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:17 am

Jackal wrote:
Gedas wrote:The fact is, Lebron doesn't need to shoot 35 in a game, he can share the ball. Besides, his team is actually WINNING.


The words blah blah blah came to mind. Then again, that always happens when I read your post.

Kobe can't share the ball? Seriously, do you guys live under rocks or are you stuck in some sort of time warp? Anyways, since you brought it up without even giving a second glance to what you were saying...

Kobe's averaging 5.6 assists a game and BronBron's got 5.9. Yeah, that makes worlds of a difference. Gedas, go stick your head up Sarunas' ass again. :?


It's your words that Kobe can't share the ball, not mine ;) And you can't argue the fact that the Cavs are on an incredible streak right now, while Lakers are struggling. I didn't say that these performances were bad, all I said was that Lebron doesn't need to take 35 shots to win and he can share the ball. I'm sure in Estonia you guys like to stick your heads to eachothers asses, but we don't.

Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:38 am

Gedas wrote:It's your words that Kobe can't share the ball, not mine ;)


I didn't say that these performances were bad, all I said was that Lebron doesn't need to take 35 shots to win and he can share the ball.


Confusion, confusion.

What's the point you're trying to make with LeBron doesn't need to shoot 35? Isn't it referring to the fact that Kobe seemingly doesn't share the ball?

Ofcourse I can't deny that the Cavs are on a good streak, LeBron's got solid supporting cast. Big Z isn't trash off the streets. Drew Gooden is playing up to pure potential. Larry Hughes has finally gotten his role and is playing marvelously. Pavlovic also understands his role and plays it to perfection.

The Lakers have...Odom. That's basically Kobe's "supporting cast". The others, they show up one day, other days they might not. Parker is streaky, he can drop 20 on you one night and give you 5 the next. Kwame Brown...enough said?

Then your next best player is a 19 year old kid. Bugger off with "LeBron doesn't need to shoot 35." The point is that they win, right? They won in both games. They do need Kobe to take 35 shots, not because he's a ballhog, but that gives them a chance to win.

He took 35 shots but the rest of the team performed nicely aswell. As mentioned, Odom, Parker and Walton almost had triple doubles. Do you understand that? Three players almost had triple doubles. Not one, not two...three.

It comes down to this, I don't understand what point it is you're trying to make. I think you're even confused about the point you're trying to make.

Then again, confusion seems to be your middle name, since when do I know anything about Estonia? Where did you get that flabbergast idea that I'm from Estonia? As I said, you're just a confused little girl. :)

Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:43 am

Gedas, go stick your head up Sarunas' ass again.

OMG :lol: :lol:

Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:55 am

To be clear, that's not really funny. It was just me being my childish self by taking an easy shot at him.

That's not what you're supposed to do, so don't do it. I shouldn't either, it's like cigerettes, I'm trying.

Gedas, my apologies for the insults. :wink:

Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:46 pm

lakerskobe247 wrote:Playoff games don't count. Otherwise, Wilt would have like 200 50 point games.


I've always been under the impression they've counted based on other lists and I don't see why they shouldn't; it's not as though the Playoffs are an exhibition. Needless to say, they don't count in a list that only refers to regular season performances.

For the record, Wilt scored 50 or more points in the Playoffs four times. Michael Jordan actually registered the most 50+ point games in the postseason with eight.

Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:59 pm

Well that's the whole point of the idea. You just proved my point by that post. I was stating, that Lebron doesn't need to take 35 shots to win the game, he can share the ball, because he has players to share it with. While Kobe, although I wouldn't call his teammates pathetic, since Walton is turning into a decent player, not to menthion Odom, there are others. Anyways, they lack consistency, so it all really depends on Kobe to decide, wheter he needs to take 35 shots that night or actually try to get his team take a big load of those shots.

Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:28 pm

How many points will Kobe Bryant score against the Grizzlies on Thursday?

I think he can go over 50 again. Memphis doesn't play defense.. Kobe's dream.. If Walton And Odom keep dishing superb assists to him. Kobe has ni problem scoring.. He gave thanks to them.. Without them he wouldn't be able to score as much..

LOS ANGELES, March 19 (AP) -- Kobe Bryant credits the return of teammates Lamar Odom and Luke Walton from injuries for making things easy for him.

The All-Star MVP became the first Los Angeles player in 44 seasons to score at least 50 points in consecutive games, following a 65-point effort with 50 in the Lakers' 109-102 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Sunday night.

Bryant became the first Lakers player to accomplish the feat since Elgin Baylor did it in three straight games in December 1962.

"Luke and Lamar both make my life a lot easier when they're out there because they're so good at recognizing situations on the floor,'' Bryant said. "They're great passers, so teams can't just front me or overplay me in certain areas.''
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