Jay Williams back in the NBA

[nets4life]

what i want to know is... why the fuck cant jason collins work on some offensive skills. if he averaged 5-8 points per game that would be great for the nets

[Mayerhendrix]

Jason Collins can't do anything, which is why the Nets need a center.

Damn Zo for whining his way out.

[air gordon]

If he is able to "hang with NBA players", I think he'll be able to play quite well. Since nobody's expecting him to put up monster numbers or anything, he's also playing for a very small contract and if he does manage to play well it's a good pick up for New Jersey.

If not, he'll be a bum, but there are plenty of those with even bigger contracts.

yeh a BIG IF...

getting a backup guard..ie Rick Brunson..for little money is hardly a big reward or great pickup.

[Its_asdf]

A big if, but isn't it worth the risk? I mean you'd rather have a gamble at Jay Williams than a sure-scrub like Brunson right?

[air gordon]

id rather have a veteran that stay healthy and accept his role then the broken jay williams.

multiple acL/mcl injuries, NERVE damage to his hip, hasn't played against NBA comp for years.. the guy had to re-learn how to walk for crying out loud. the odds are cerainly stacked.. even for him just to make the team.

there is no risk yet there is no high reward

[Its_asdf]

They've got Eddie House, McInnis and Marcus Williams off the bench as well. You're making it sound like Jay Williams is going to be relied heavily upon and if he doesn't produce then the Nets aren't going to be successful. If he doesn't play well, fine. If he does play well, I'm not saying he's going to average a triple double or anything. My definition of being a "reward" is to be able to contribute a few points now and then and to try buy some time until Kidd comes back into the game.

If Williams can ease himself into the rotation I think that alone is a pretty big reward considering that there are uncertain expectations put up for the guy.

Fact is, he's not getting paid a lot of money, there's plenty of able-bodied (but beatable) competition, and I personally think he'll get a chance to prove himself. If not, then I'm sure that this will be a nice stepping stone and a pretty big leap for him to getting back into the NBA.

[Axel]

I gotta agree with asdf, Jay Williams a no risk pick-up. He's still young, and has a great understanding of the game. The fact that he has worked so hard to get back to an NBA comeback is enough reason to sign him - you know he'll be willing to work.

That contrasts greatly with Marcus Williams, who was passed up by many teams, because of his attitude.

I see House getting little to no playing time, same applies for McInnis, since neither have the potential upside of Jay Williams. If either Marcus Williams or J. Kidd get hurt, Jay Williams would likely recieve decent bench minutes to showcase himself.

[nets4life]

house will get plenty of playing time, he can fill in at the 2 aswell

[Axel]

I doubt that. He'll only stagnate the Nets offense, and be a liability on defense. Just because he can shoot doesn't make him a 2 guard. He lacks the athleticism to keep up with some of the other shooting guards in the league, like Wade and A.I. I just dont see him fitting in well at all.

[air gordon]

They've got Eddie House, McInnis and Marcus Williams off the bench as well. You're making it sound like Jay Williams is going to be relied heavily upon and if he doesn't produce then the Nets aren't going to be successful. If he doesn't play well, fine. If he does play well, I'm not saying he's going to average a triple double or anything. My definition of being a "reward" is to be able to contribute a few points now and then and to try buy some time until Kidd comes back into the game.

If Williams can ease himself into the rotation I think that alone is a pretty big reward considering that there are uncertain expectations put up for the guy.

Fact is, he's not getting paid a lot of money, there's plenty of able-bodied (but beatable) competition, and I personally think he'll get a chance to prove himself. If not, then I'm sure that this will be a nice stepping stone and a pretty big leap for him to getting back into the NBA.

i didn't say anything about Jay Williams production lol. but a 'high reward' for you is a "few points now and then" plus giving Jason kidd some "blow" so to speak... that's just ridiculous. all of the Ronald Dupree/Linton Johnson signings must be high rewards too for their respective teams lol

there are plenty of these type of signings in the nba and no one makes a big deal out of them/label them low risk/high reward

don't mistaken a comeback with "high" reward. for williams to even make it in the nba would be a great inspirational story, but for him to give marginal production is not something for the NJN GM to start patting himself in the back for

I gotta agree with asdf, Jay Williams a no risk pick-up. He's still young, and has a great understanding of the game. The fact that he has worked so hard to get back to an NBA comeback is enough reason to sign him - you know he'll be willing to work.

That contrasts greatly with Marcus Williams, who was passed up by many teams, because of his attitude.

I see House getting little to no playing time, same applies for McInnis, since neither have the potential upside of Jay Williams. If either Marcus Williams or J. Kidd get hurt, Jay Williams would likely recieve decent bench minutes to showcase himself.

i agreed that JW is a no risk pickup.. but he is not a high reward player

what i don't understand is why some people here mention Jay Williams brooding potential. exactly what is post accident Willams potential??

[R.J.]

If he was anywhere near NBA PG caliber material anymore, then all 32 nba teams would be scrambling to sign him. Notice how he didn't get signed last year, when it was rumored he would come back, and it took until September this year to sign him. To a non-guaranteed contract, which means that IF he makes the team, the contract doesn't become guaranteed until around the start of January. Shows how much faith NBA teams have in the guy.

[air gordon]

yes thank you. he didn't even play in summer league where teams can get free looks at scrubs iirc. even Fenix at one point was touting him as the top PG in the market because draftexpress saw him in a workout lol

last year he tried to latch on some teams but didn't, citing he couldn't get a guaranteed contract. now he's playing on a non guaranteed contract

[kinokong]

if he makes it as a star, it could be an inspiring story but not too likely to happen best of luck to him

[maes]

Here's a nice draftexpress write up of workouts between Marcus Wiliams, Jay Williams, and DJ Strawberry.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1321

It's worth nothing that draftexpress routinely heralds every player as the Next Kobe/Amare/Kidd. I remember their writeup of Joey & Stephen Graham, it made it sound like those two were all-star material.

[air gordon]

haha i remember those 2 articles on the Grahams

Marcus is proving to be the better Williams at this point. from what i've heard, Jay's been shit

[shadowgrin]

Jay Williams have been getting almost 5 TO's in 10-22 mins. this preseason. He is shite.

[Zoom]

Maybe he's struggling without his quickness of the past... I think Jay might be much more suited playing overseas...

[runthestreetz]

I STiLL remember how amazing Jay was at Duke

Watching those games i could not believe the things he was doing

I marked noted his name and said, wow, he is going to impact the game like one of the greats. Like MJ ( i thought at the time)
Never ever been wrong about a player like that, and i'd rather envisioned him sucking and then him making it then this current situation

And the other williamses- Marcus Williams-Phenomenal
Deron Williams-Hype About Nothing

[Laxation]

Never ever been wrong about a player like that

Tool...

[BMG]

good for him

he needs to stay off the bikes and stick to hoop

[Matt]

i guess they don't teach you in college that it's against NBA policy to ride motor bikes? Now he's gonna regret being a dumbass for the rest of his life.

[Zoom]

Well, I think he alreayd regretted it before he attempted his comeback... and is still regretting it now.

Although I think that he was stupid for riding his bike when he wasn't allowed to, let along for his own safety, I'm still happy for him for working hard to get back to the top level

[shadowgrin]

Against NBA policy or team policy?
Karl Malone rode bikes then. He even rode one when going to the arena during the Finals against the Bulls.

[Zoom]

I might be mistaken but I think he was riding in the wee hours of the morning or something... wasn't sure if he was speeding/drunk or whatever... If true, that in itself is stupid...

[bchogan]

Well, it seems the Nets have released him, so his comeback has hit a big snag.
Personally, I'm opposed to his getting back in the NBA. This is a guy that engaged in an activity that was specifically prohibited in his contract, riding motorcycles, and it bit him in the ass. He even flaunted it in a televised interview, peeling out and whatnot, without a helmet, too, if I remember correctly. He even said to the interviewer that he probably shouldn't be doing that since it wasn't allowed by his contract. The other thing that gets me is that the Bulls bought out his contract, even though Williams was in violation of it. I'm not saying he deserved to be hurt, but if he really cared about his NBA career, he wouldn't have put himself in a situation where he could lose it all.