The Truth: Knicks Are Nice.

THE TRUTH: KNICKS ARE CONTENDERS. SERIOUSLY. THIS IS NOT SARCASM. NO REALLY. I AM NOT JOKING. THAT IS OBVIOUS.

sam cassell was the reason the clippers did so well because he is the pg...if he decides to pass the team does good. if he decides to keep shootin the team does bad..im not sayin he is a bad player he has pg skills but he in my opinion is just an average player like mo pete...you wouldnt consider mo pete to be like really good..he is just an average player.
jason terry...idk i just dont consider him as the superstar type because im not sure....oh well

9. Mike Bibby
10. Kirk Hinrich
11. Tony Parker
12. Baron Davis( when healthy)

could all possibly be added to the list too since they've been more successful so far

potentially 12 point guards better than marbury

Yes, but he's currently a run-wild shooting guard. He's got the potential to settle down and start being a play-maker (heck, a lot of people do), but there isn't much of a chance of that happening, especially when you have less play-maker oriented guards in Steve Francis, Jamal Crawford and Marbury on the team. Robinson needs to keep his mouth shut and his head screwed on straight, and judging by the looks of things he'll need someone to guide him in that direction.

While i agree with you. that guy whoever he is was implying something else. That's what i've been saying all along. now do you understand?

Marbury is a good passer, but not a playmaker. He's been known to be a very offensive minded player that will try to dominate the ball even if he does collect a bunch of assists and I think thats why there is always the debate as to whether or not he's a "passing" point guard or not.

Define what is a good passer and a playmaker and maybe we can have this discussion.

Yes, Marybury dominates the ball, so does Nash, Parker, Bibby and Kidd. That's what PG's are supposed to do, dominate the ball in order to create for teammates. Name me one PG that gets a lot of assists that does not dominate the ball?

Yes, he is offensive minded, that's because he is a very talented scorer. Name 3 PG's in the league that is as talented on offense than Stephon yet can still manage to average 8 assists for a career. C'mon. Amuse me.

What was Marburys PPG last year again?

Am I the only one that sees Marbury has different "modes?" Sometimes, he'll just strictly score, and at other times, he'll strictly just pass, not even attempt a clear open shot. Not sure if he was like this last year as the Knicks were terrible together as a team

Am I the only one that sees Marbury has different "modes?" Sometimes, he'll just strictly score, and at other times, he'll strictly just pass, not even attempt a clear open shot. Not sure if he was like this last year as the Knicks were terrible together as a team

he was trying to please larry brown. Pass and get the team involved then try to get into the game offensively.

Starbury's Escape

Faloop
Sexual, Necrophilic act,where one jumps on the stomach of a recently deceased woman, and then eats whatever comes out of her vagina.

And on topic: Isiah Thomas is a great talent evaluator, but doesn't know anything about recognizing basketball IQ or taking player's personality in account when he goes trading for one. Marbury, Francis, Nate and Curry are one of the most retarded players around.

He asked Larry Brown all season long over & over again to play the 2...Brown forced him to play Point against his will...

Huh? Never heard of this. Do you have a link? I've always followed the knicks and the lakers, this is the first time im hearing about this BS.

There's a 1st time for everything:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2228374

Nov. 18, 2005, 12:18 PM ET
Marbury has asked to move from point guard to shooting guard, the New York Daily News reported

"He told me he wanted to play off guard," Brown was quoted as saying in the newspaper. "Well, it's not that easy right now. What, are we going to invent a point guard?

"He told me he wanted to play like the way I used Allen [in Philadelphia]. Well, I had Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Aaron McKie. It's a little different now."

(I tried to link the original article itself from the NY Daily News but it's not for free)

Define what is a good passer and a playmaker and maybe we can have this discussion.

Playmakers are people who can get players the ball at the right time in the right place; making others better. An example would be Jason Kidd. An example of a "good passer" would be Steve Francis. He can rack up a ton of assists, but that doesn't necessarily mean that his team will be that much better and benefit from his passing ability.

Passers are players that can pass well and rack up assists, but that is because they have the ball in their hands so often. Yes, point guards do tend to have the ball more often than not, but I guess what I meant was that Marbury tries to have a stranglehold on the offence at times and makes a lot more plays that involve himself rather than others.

Yes, he is offensive minded, that's because he is a very talented scorer. Name 3 PG's in the league that is as talented on offense than Stephon yet can still manage to average 8 assists for a career. C'mon. Amuse me.

Not too many recent scoring guards have been successful in the NBA. It is shown recently that not too many point guards can score a bunch of points and still get all 4 other guys on the court involved.

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Define what is a good passer and a playmaker and maybe we can have this discussion.

good passer = most of the pgs in the league
playmaker = steve nash, jason kidd

going to be a lot of street ball style for sure...
Marbury could average 9 or 10 assist.. allys to Francis and Nate, Frye and that money J, there is HOPE!!

...hope at getting swept in the first round.

Exactly. You with hard-nosed defense, rebounding and playing smart offense. We don't have that in NY. Like Larry Brown said, "We don't have a head out there."

I'm hoping the football Giants go deep in the playoffs. That'll take my mind off this sorry-ass bunch of babies who have the nerve to call themselves Knicks.

It is shown recently that not too many point guards can score a bunch of points and still get all 4 other guys on the court involved.

Thank you.

Stephon when given the freedom, is exactly the type of player that can do what you just said.

good passer = most of the pgs in the league
playmaker = steve nash, jason kidd

How vague.

Surely you can do better than that.

I've always loved Starbury, I don't know why, but I'd love him to be in Blazer town but they've got enough PG's... heh..