NBA Lottery

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1 - Toronto
Tyrus Thomas - Its Colangelo drafting the No.1 pick, we can expect him to draft this guy considering the team he built in Pheonix

i never got this, a lot of people have said this. How are we considering the team BC built in Phoniex? This is like drafting another PF when you already have Amare Stoudemire. We already have a great player in Bosh, and Thomas is the last player we need in TO. Don't get me wrong, he's very talented, a lot of potential, but there are other players that have just as much potential ...Aldridge, Bargnani to name a few. The difference b/w Thomas and the other players the raps are said to be interested in is that Aldridge and Bargnani can play C which is the position we need. I'm not saying draft for position, but seriously another PF is the last thing we need. Thomas won't have the opportunity to be a star if he plays behind Bosh.

Are you serious? Bargnani is a risk no matter how talented he is because he is coming from Europe and you're saying that you would play him at centre when he's a finesse player and will do nothing when it comes up against guys much much stronger than him. Anyways I think looking at it again I think that the Raptors should draft Aldridge but I think they will draft Thomas because Colangelo likes that up-tempo game that Phoenix play. I would be very surprised if they took Bargnani because they have two capable players in Bosh and Villanueva who can hit that jumpshot if they need it and they also have Mo Peterson so I think that Tyrus Thomas or LaMarcus Aldridge will go there because they have an inside game. I don't think Thomas is ready either to play inside or in the post with the centres in the league however, in my opinion he has more potential and will probably put on that msucle he needs because he is still developing, he is only a freshman.

[iKe7in]

They are already more than capable of playing an uptempo game, as Bosh and Villenueva are both very quick for their size. They need another low post force, like Hoffa was supposed to be. As bOsh said, they need a banger, and that's Aldridge, not Thomas. If they were to draft Thomas, I don't know where they would play him. He's too small to play the 4, especially if they had to play Bosh in the middle, and he doesn't have the shooting range of Villenueva, who should end up as a permanent 3.

The Raptors should pick Aldridge, but if they don't, they should deal the pick to Atlanta who can have Bargnani, in exchange for Josh Childress and Atlanta's first rounder next year, and then take Marcus Williams at #5.

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My guesses on the top 5, which is all we can do without workout reports...

#1. Toronto - Alridge
There's two strong reasons for this pairing. First they need a complement to Bosh at PF, not another PF/SF like Charlie V. I think they'll look for a true Center who can rebound & defend and finish when assisted. The second is that Bosh played w/ Alridge from what i've read, that may mean Bosh is going to push to get Alridge.

#2. Chicago - Morrison
We know Paxson loves to draft proven College kids that play hard, and he'll skip out on the overhyped "potential" and "upside" picks. Chicago needs a go to guy, and someone who's more than a spot up shooter. I think this is a no-brainer for Chicago, unless Bargnani proves to be truly gifted when he works out.

#3. Charlotte - Rudy Gay
They're set at PG, PF, & one Wing. I think they'll draft on another wing, and they'll gamble on an upside pick. For gambles i think it's Thomas and Gay this draft, and Gay seems a little more highly regarded at this point.

#4. Portland - Sene
I think Portland is kinda crazy in many ways, and this smells like something they would do. Make a gamble on a total unknown product who's probably the best physical specimen in the draft. 7' 8" wingspan...damn.

#5. Atlanta - Tyrus Thomas
They're probably going to lose Al Harrington, and Thomas might give them a more physical player than Marvin, who seems to be a finesse guy.

[J@3]

Sene? Most mock drafts have him going late first round/early 2nd. Would be a waste of a pick to take him THAT early.

[Donatello]

Portland could probably get Sene with their later pick. Gah. Sene at #4? Disgusting

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You better be kidding me on Sene. You're saying they will pick him above Bargnani and Thomas because he is physical.

And for Morrison...why should they draft him as their go-to guy whenever Gordon is that and they already have two pretty good young SF in Deng and Nocioni

[Malfa]

Portland could probably get Sene with their later pick. Gah. Sene at #4? Disgusting

Weaknesses: Still doesn't have much offensive game to speak of ... Only began playing basketball in 2003 so he's still learning the game ... Must continue working hard to maximize his great potential ...

haha thats crazy..ive been playing so much longer i wish i was that good

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You better be kidding me on Sene. You're saying they will pick him above Bargnani and Thomas because he is physical.

Haha at this time i heard the exact same things about:
Dwight Howard
Amare Stoudemire
Kwame Brown
Andrew Bynum
Eddy Curry

Yet all those guys were lottery picks. Not all of them panned out, but they were all picked. The draft for Bigs is a meat market, skills is something they seek to teach later.

Bargnani? Are you kidding me? This guy is a Small Forward. He's about as much a imposing center as Nik Skita or Jonathan Bender. 6' 11" does not a Center make.

And for Morrison...why should they draft him as their go-to guy whenever Gordon is that and they already have two pretty good young SF in Deng and Nocioni

Deng & Nocioni are going to the carry the team to the NBA Championship as the go to guys? No way. They're role players, very good ones.

Ben Gordon is a go to guy by default, he's not going to carry them to the Championship either, and he's a liability on defense pretty much all the time.

[iKe7in]

Haha at this time i heard the exact same things about:
Dwight Howard
Amare Stoudemire
Kwame Brown
Andrew Bynum
Eddy Curry

Well Dwight Howard is a budding superstar and he's barely 20, Amare could be the best big man in the league if he can stay healthy, its far too early to judge Bynum, and if Curry's heart still works he is a top 10 center in the league.

Ben Gordon is a go to guy by default, he's not going to carry them to the Championship either,

I think its more likely that Hinrich is their 'go-to- guys.

and he's a liability on defense pretty much all the time.

So is 99% of the league.

[R.J.]

You better be kidding me on Sene. You're saying they will pick him above Bargnani and Thomas because he is physical.

And for Morrison...why should they draft him as their go-to guy whenever Gordon is that and they already have two pretty good young SF in Deng and Nocioni

Well, your lottery picks didn't even include Bargnani....

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And for Morrison...why should they draft him as their go-to guy whenever Gordon is that and they already have two pretty good young SF in Deng and Nocioni

Deng & Nocioni are going to the carry the team to the NBA Championship as the go to guys? No way. They're role players, very good ones.

Ben Gordon is a go to guy by default, he's not going to carry them to the Championship either, and he's a liability on defense pretty much all the time.

If you had of read what I said it was "why should they draft him as their go-to guy whenever 'Gordon is that.'" Also I haven;t said anywhere that Deng or Nocioni are their got-o guys I was saying that why draft Morisson when they have two pretty good young players who play the 3.

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You better be kidding me on Sene. You're saying they will pick him above Bargnani and Thomas because he is physical.

And for Morrison...why should they draft him as their go-to guy whenever Gordon is that and they already have two pretty good young SF in Deng and Nocioni

Well, your lottery picks didn't even include Bargnani....

ehhhhh....if you looked again you would see that Bargnani is pick no.5 pick with the Hawks because I think they will draft him to replace Al Harrington this summer.

[air gordon]

My guesses on the top 5, which is all we can do without workout reports...


#2. Chicago - Morrison
We know Paxson loves to draft proven College kids that play hard, and he'll skip out on the overhyped "potential" and "upside" picks. Chicago needs a go to guy, and someone who's more than a spot up shooter.

yeh Pax's draft history has been that so far. IMO i think Paxson will take a bigger risk in this year's draft because I believe this is the last chance the team will be in a situation where it will have such a high pick (there is the Knick's pick next year but i don't think the Knicks will blow this hard next year).

Paxson has been nothing but praises for the perceived top 10 picks. but one thing that did stand out was that Paxson mentioned he would trade the pick if he could get a NBA experienced, proven scorer in return

I think this is a no-brainer for Chicago, unless Bargnani proves to be truly gifted when he works out.

Deng & Nocioni are going to the carry the team to the NBA Championship as the go to guys? No way. They're role players, very good ones.

Ben Gordon is a go to guy by default, he's not going to carry them to the Championship either, and he's a liability on defense pretty much all the time

do you believe Morrison's acquisition will carry the Bulls to the Championship??? Personally i don't and if he is that good, he would be the clear cut #1 choice in this year's draft

it doesn't make sense to draft yet another SF anyway. the team still doesn't know what it has yet in Deng. at least Noce can play PF so Deng doesn't lose time/development to him.

as far as Gordon- at least he's proven he can be a go to guy and at the least play average defense against NBA competition. And no one questioned his athleticism- great quickness, leaping, and strength. Morrison has a lot of questions marks about his game translating to the next level, as well as his health issues (the Bulls already have been burned by that a few times)

but yeh- going off of Paxson's success with draft picks, i trust he'll make the right choice

[Fenix]

A proposal: could someone change the name of this thread to "NBA Draft Talk" or something similar, so we can prevent new threads about NBA Draft? To make things more organized.

Random notes:
- Rajon Rondo is seriously underrated. Sure, his shot is bad and will probably always be, but he has AI-like quickness and athleticism, superb length and hands, good height (6'2 with shoes) and has everything you could want from a playmaker. His weaknesses would be very obvious if he played for a halfcourt oriented team that has no shooters to pass the ball to, but with more and more teams running all the time, he would fit right into. My comparison is TJ Ford, who also posseses superb quickness, good athleticism and great PG instincts, but has less height and length, which is what gives Rondo so much potential.
- Adam Morrison is going to slip, IMO. Potential suitors (Charlotte, Portland) are reportedly trying to trade their pick/trade down and others are scared of his lack of psychical skills, so it's logical to see him drop a few spots down.
- Sergio Rodriguez is underrated, 3rd best playmaker in the draft (behind only Williams and Rondo) and the youngest of the trio. People are comparing him to Jason Williams, but IMO he's the closest thing to Nash we will seen in the near future.