Hey,
I was just wondering if someone could provide some scouting reports of a few players for me? Now before you get any ideas, nothing related to that crappy scouting report thread that that guy made and everyone ripped on him lol. Anyways, the players:
Elton Brand, Ron Artest, Josh Howard, Sam Cassell, Tyson Chandler, Kirk Hinrich, Morris Peterson, Quinton Ross and thats about it for now.
Thanks for any help!
Scouting Reports For A Few Players...
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by Dean on Thu May 11, 2006 10:17 pm
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by Dean on Thu May 11, 2006 10:30 pm
Yeah i was thinking of air gordan as i put Kirk Hinrich's name on the list, hes always good at them in the Bulls thread...
But i havent seen many Clippers fans roaming..
But i havent seen many Clippers fans roaming..
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by debiler on Thu May 11, 2006 11:23 pm
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Re: Scouting Reports For A Few Players...
by Fenix on Thu May 11, 2006 11:33 pm
Kirk Hinrich: a combo guard quite capable of playing both position, although PG suits him more size-wise. However, he has more than enough athleticism and height (6'4 with shoes on) to guard SGs when needed and it IS needed if he plays with Ben Gordon in the backcourt. His defense is tremendous (1-on-1 and team defense) and can lock down his man or at least cause him troubles as seen in the first round of this years playoffs against Dwyane Wade. Bigger guards can give him troubles with posting him up, though he lets them do that less and less.
Ofensivelly, he can score in variety of ways, best one being his shot. The tehnique on his jumpshot is very good and doesn't need a lot for him to get hot from beyond the 3pt line. His passing ability is excellent and he uses it well, although he's still work in progress as far as his feel for playmaking goes. It's obvious that he played quite a lot of SG on the lower levels of competition and is still learning to distribute and control the flow of the offense. However, I'm most probably underrating him in that area. He is a very smart player, doesn't make a lot of mistakes and has all the intagibles you could want from your floor leader.
Athletically, he is very underrated. He is deceptively quick, quite fast and has good elevation when attacking the basket. He is also stronger than it seems (just under 200 pounds). His length isn't exactly elite, but is above average and more than passable when you think that he usually has two inch advantage over the opposing PGs and still good enough to guard some SGs. Overally, he's no slouch in the atleticism department.
Did you have something like that in mind?
Ofensivelly, he can score in variety of ways, best one being his shot. The tehnique on his jumpshot is very good and doesn't need a lot for him to get hot from beyond the 3pt line. His passing ability is excellent and he uses it well, although he's still work in progress as far as his feel for playmaking goes. It's obvious that he played quite a lot of SG on the lower levels of competition and is still learning to distribute and control the flow of the offense. However, I'm most probably underrating him in that area. He is a very smart player, doesn't make a lot of mistakes and has all the intagibles you could want from your floor leader.
Athletically, he is very underrated. He is deceptively quick, quite fast and has good elevation when attacking the basket. He is also stronger than it seems (just under 200 pounds). His length isn't exactly elite, but is above average and more than passable when you think that he usually has two inch advantage over the opposing PGs and still good enough to guard some SGs. Overally, he's no slouch in the atleticism department.
Did you have something like that in mind?
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by Indy on Fri May 12, 2006 3:35 am
Ron Artest:
Positives: Best perimiter defender in the NBA. Very physical defender, holds his ground, and stays low to the ground. One thing he does very well is going for steals while not gambling. He is able to go for a steal while still staying in front of his man, which is a talent that is very unique in this league. Has worked a lot on his shot since he came in to the league and is now a true three point threat. He is stronger then anyone else on the court, regardless of the opponent. His off the ball movement is fantastic because he can just put his back to the basket and back the defender all the way down to the hole, where he is far too strong for the defender to do anything about it. That is one of his patented moves. He is an excellent finisher around the basket. Fierce competetor, will never back down, and always goes out and competes hard, no matter what. Hates to lose.
Negatives: Feels the need to always have the spotlight on him in some way, whether its making comments to the media, fighting with teammates, or beating up fans. You will get different stories, but from what I've heard he is far from a good teammate. Tries to scare his teammates in to respecting him by starting fist fights over absolutley nothing and humiliating them. Thinks he's a better offensive player then he really is. He'll take some bad shots, and is somewhat of a black hole. If you don't build the team around him, the team will inevitably implode, and it may implode because of him anyway. High risk to take, having him on the team.
Positives: Best perimiter defender in the NBA. Very physical defender, holds his ground, and stays low to the ground. One thing he does very well is going for steals while not gambling. He is able to go for a steal while still staying in front of his man, which is a talent that is very unique in this league. Has worked a lot on his shot since he came in to the league and is now a true three point threat. He is stronger then anyone else on the court, regardless of the opponent. His off the ball movement is fantastic because he can just put his back to the basket and back the defender all the way down to the hole, where he is far too strong for the defender to do anything about it. That is one of his patented moves. He is an excellent finisher around the basket. Fierce competetor, will never back down, and always goes out and competes hard, no matter what. Hates to lose.
Negatives: Feels the need to always have the spotlight on him in some way, whether its making comments to the media, fighting with teammates, or beating up fans. You will get different stories, but from what I've heard he is far from a good teammate. Tries to scare his teammates in to respecting him by starting fist fights over absolutley nothing and humiliating them. Thinks he's a better offensive player then he really is. He'll take some bad shots, and is somewhat of a black hole. If you don't build the team around him, the team will inevitably implode, and it may implode because of him anyway. High risk to take, having him on the team.
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by Its_asdf on Fri May 12, 2006 6:13 am
Morris Peterson is my all-time favourite Raptor next to Alvin Williams. I've seen him grow from his rookie to this point in his career and I must say, I'm thoroughly impressed with how mature and humble he has become.
Morris Peterson is an amazing role player. He's consistent (although he has only shown that this year), hardworking on both ends of the court, and provides a leadership role to the younger players. He doesn't have an ego or plays selfishly and isn't going to cause a ruckus in the locker room.
His offensive game is solid. His jump shot's range has never been questioned, but only recently has Morris Peterson developed a consistent "go-to" mid-range pull up jumper. He can really burn you from beyond the arc and he isn't afraid of taking the big shots near the end of the game, but he never forces his offence and plays within the context of his game. He's capable of being an offensive spark that can really get your team going because when he's hit a few threes you can't really stop him. He isn't just a jump shooting oversized swingman either. Morris Peterson has the strength, size and quickness to slash to the paint and he can really do damage in there, especially since he's a lefty. He can finish strong and gets plenty of three point plays because of his underrated athleticism. On the defensive side, he's pretty solid, although he isn't a lockdown defender. He takes a lot of charges and really knows how to play with his feet. You aren't going to question his effort on either end of the court though, this guy brings it all 82 games because he plays all 82 games. He's hardly ever injured and he'll do whatever it takes to win because he's such a great competitor. If you're trying to define someone who "plays the right way", Morris Peterson is your guy.
If there is a weakness in Mo Pete, it has to be his dribbling. He relies too much on using his size and strength sometimes when he's driving to the basket, but overall I don't really see this as a problem. He does get streaky at times and can settle for too many threes, but he's matured a lot as a player this year I don't really see that many weaknesses. His offensive repitoire is pretty limited though; he sometimes requires the other 4 teamates to create for him although I've seen less of that this season because of his improved mid-range jumper and his willingness to attack the rim more often this season.
Morris Peterson is an amazing role player. He's consistent (although he has only shown that this year), hardworking on both ends of the court, and provides a leadership role to the younger players. He doesn't have an ego or plays selfishly and isn't going to cause a ruckus in the locker room.
His offensive game is solid. His jump shot's range has never been questioned, but only recently has Morris Peterson developed a consistent "go-to" mid-range pull up jumper. He can really burn you from beyond the arc and he isn't afraid of taking the big shots near the end of the game, but he never forces his offence and plays within the context of his game. He's capable of being an offensive spark that can really get your team going because when he's hit a few threes you can't really stop him. He isn't just a jump shooting oversized swingman either. Morris Peterson has the strength, size and quickness to slash to the paint and he can really do damage in there, especially since he's a lefty. He can finish strong and gets plenty of three point plays because of his underrated athleticism. On the defensive side, he's pretty solid, although he isn't a lockdown defender. He takes a lot of charges and really knows how to play with his feet. You aren't going to question his effort on either end of the court though, this guy brings it all 82 games because he plays all 82 games. He's hardly ever injured and he'll do whatever it takes to win because he's such a great competitor. If you're trying to define someone who "plays the right way", Morris Peterson is your guy.
If there is a weakness in Mo Pete, it has to be his dribbling. He relies too much on using his size and strength sometimes when he's driving to the basket, but overall I don't really see this as a problem. He does get streaky at times and can settle for too many threes, but he's matured a lot as a player this year I don't really see that many weaknesses. His offensive repitoire is pretty limited though; he sometimes requires the other 4 teamates to create for him although I've seen less of that this season because of his improved mid-range jumper and his willingness to attack the rim more often this season.
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by j.23 on Fri May 12, 2006 6:16 am
Its_asdf wrote:Morris Peterson is my all-time favourite Raptor next to Alvin Williams. I've seen him grow from his rookie to this point in his career and I must say, I'm thoroughly impressed with how mature and humble he has become.
Morris Peterson is an amazing role player. He's consistent (although he has only shown that this year), hardworking on both ends of the court, and provides a leadership role to the younger players. He doesn't have an ego and isn't going to cause a ruckus in the locker room.
His offensive game is solid. His jump shot's range has never been questioned, but only recently has Morris Peterson developed a consistent "go-to" mid-range pull up jumper. He can really burn you from beyond the arc and he isn't afraid of taking the big shots near the end of the game, but he never forces his offence and plays within the context of his game. He's capable of being an offensive spark that can really get your team going because when he's hit a few threes you can't really stop him. He isn't just a jump shooting either. Morris Peterson has the strength, size and quickness to slash to the paint and he can really do damage in there, especially since he's a lefty. He can finish strong and gets plenty of three point plays because of his underrated athleticism. On the defensive side, he's pretty solid, although he isn't a lockdown defender. He takes a lot of charges and really knows how to play with his feet. You aren't going to question his effort on either end of the court though, this guy brings it all 82 games because he plays all 82 games. He's hardly ever injured and he'll do whatever it takes to win because he's such a great competitor. If you're trying o define someone who "plays the right way", Morris Peterson is your guy.
If there is a weakness in Mo Pete, it has to be his dribbling. He relies too much on using his size and strength sometimes when he's driving to the basket, but overall I don't really see this as a problem. He does get streaky at times and can settle for too many threes, but he's matured a lot as a player this year I don't really see that many weaknesses.
alvin fucking williams baby. i miss watching him play. great analysis of mo pete, i really dont know what else to add. well there is. his shot selection at times is questionable, but it's a minor gripe when you compare him to a douchebag such as mike james.-
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by Cable on Fri May 12, 2006 11:24 am
Hehe, check this week's Sig League for more on that ^^.
Dead on with Mo Pete, although you might want to add that he averages around 1 circus shot per game that goes in.
Dead on with Mo Pete, although you might want to add that he averages around 1 circus shot per game that goes in.
And I'm going to see them in Toronto!
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by Its_asdf on Fri May 12, 2006 11:30 am
Yeah, I was going to add the circus shot per game thing in there, but I was editing my post and I guess I subconciously edited it out or something.
I'd be glad to do Josh Howard also if no one else is willing to do him. One of my favourite players in the league.
I'd be glad to do Josh Howard also if no one else is willing to do him. One of my favourite players in the league.
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by J@3 on Fri May 12, 2006 4:25 pm
I'll do Sam Cassell tomorrow, but I warn you, I'm a big Sam I am fan.
Oh God...
Sam Cassell
Probably the greatest PG of all time, people just don't recognise it because of his looks. Apart from Jamaal Tinsley, Danny Granger, Ike Diogu and Joakim Noah is a sure fire hall of famer and a basketball legend. I'll cry when he retires.
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by Fenix on Fri May 12, 2006 6:53 pm
Quinton Ross: a defensive specialist. He's the new Bruce Bowen minus some dirtiness, by far the best perimeter defender on the Clippers' squad and one of the best in the League, right up there with Bowen, Hassell and a motivated Bryant. He doesn't bully his man or uses his strength like Artest does, but he excells at moving his feet, following his man through the screens and is great at helping his teammates on D and playing good team defense.
On offense, he isn't as much of a liability as some other defenders are. He still can't knock down shots beyond the 3pt line, but neither could Bowen and Bell when they first got in the League. I do believe there's only a matter of time when he learns hitting those open 3pts just like BB does. He does have the ability to knock down open midrange jumpers, though, as evident in the Suns/Clippers series, when Suns start double teaming Brand on the block.
His athleticism is kinda underrated. He isn't particulary strong, but he doesn't have to be. He has great lateral quickness, can run the court like the wind and is very capable of exploding for dunks. He also uses his decent vertical to snatch down a couple of rebounds every game is quite decent at getting the right position to go after loose balls and yet he stays with his man if he sees that going after the ball would exploit his team on D. So overally, he is a very smart player, full of hustle, makes the right plays and deserves more national attention.
On offense, he isn't as much of a liability as some other defenders are. He still can't knock down shots beyond the 3pt line, but neither could Bowen and Bell when they first got in the League. I do believe there's only a matter of time when he learns hitting those open 3pts just like BB does. He does have the ability to knock down open midrange jumpers, though, as evident in the Suns/Clippers series, when Suns start double teaming Brand on the block.
His athleticism is kinda underrated. He isn't particulary strong, but he doesn't have to be. He has great lateral quickness, can run the court like the wind and is very capable of exploding for dunks. He also uses his decent vertical to snatch down a couple of rebounds every game is quite decent at getting the right position to go after loose balls and yet he stays with his man if he sees that going after the ball would exploit his team on D. So overally, he is a very smart player, full of hustle, makes the right plays and deserves more national attention.
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by supernoobz on Fri May 19, 2006 10:33 pm
Tracy Mcgrady:An athletic freak... Will dunk on anyone... Great coordination and quickness... Long arms... Above average ballhandling skills... Almost unstoppable one-on-one... Can drive to the basket or shoot the ball... Has three-point shooting range... Goes to the line very often... Will post good rebounding numbers... Great vision of the court... Five assists per night... A real superstar.
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