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Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:50 pm
Knicks talk Walker
On the surface, the Sprewell deal doesn't sound too bad. If the Knicks are intent on trading Spree, they should do so before he loses his trade value. But it doesn't really help them to bring in another power forward, which is why the other suggested trade - a few of the Knicks' lower-salaried and expendable power forwards for Walker - might be the better deal.
From the Celtics point of view, I don't think Spree will really help them. Sure, Spree is still a good player, he's a great vocal leader and he has a lot of heart, but the Celtics need to add more inside muscle. The second deal makes more sense for them too.
I'm still not convinced the Celtics need to trade Walker in the first place. I feel they would be better off adding to the team, rather than making drastic changes.
Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:31 pm
would that mean the knicks can be the team with out a license?
cos none of their players can drive
how would they win with allan and antoine bombing 3's down the stretch?
Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:59 pm
I think both the Knicks and the Celtics would be better off looking at adding a Michael Olowokandi or Rasho Nesterovic to the mix rather than swapping the forwards they already have.
Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:30 pm
Oh man, it would really ruine our offense if we get him, see how he plays in Boston and shooting some terrible shots and bringing the ball too, i guess i dont like this thing to happen.
Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:19 am
I can see the Knicks benefiting more from that trade, if it were to happen? Kurt Thomas is an excellent player, and off course Spree, but I'm just wondering how that would change the offensive style of play for Boston, & whether or not they need another bigman?
Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:27 am
Antoine Walker is chubby. He would have to play more SF in New York because of Kurt Thomas (who would also get minutes at C) and Mike Sweetney, and possibly McDyess somewhere in the season.
Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:28 am
i dont want this deal to happen
they say that the knicks are looking for more point from the post but i think there's more chance of c-ward posting up than walker moving in from the 3point line.
bad trade!! dont let it happen, but knowing scott layden it probably will
Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:48 am
As a Celtics fan, I can tell you moving Antoine Walker is a great idea, but they must get equal value or slightly less.
I hate the Latrell Sprewell and a first round pick deal.
I like the Kurt Thomas and Charlie Ward deal.
The C's can buy Ward out and have room for a 4.9 million dollar salary cap exception like they need. Kurt Thomas could put some rebounding and defense on the frontline.
I do not know how it helps or hurts the Knicks, except if they get rid of the one-dimensional Sprewell, who pretty much does what Walker does except Sprewell doesn't pass or rebound.
I really like the trade that was rumored earlier right before the draft, which involved Boston's 16th pick and Antoine Walker to Miami for Brian Grant and their 5th pick. (Which I believe Boston would have drafted Wade as well.)
Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:45 pm
I'm a huge Knick fan who wants NO part of Antoine Walker. Knick management has no clue. NY needs SIZE & BEEF up front!
Thu Jul 03, 2003 12:06 am
paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:I do not know how it helps or hurts the Knicks, except if they get rid of the one-dimensional Sprewell, who pretty much does what Walker does except Sprewell doesn't pass or rebound.
I wouldn't call sprewell one dimensional...he can score, he's a good defender, and he did up his assist level last year...
But still......I'd kill myself if I saw Walker in a Knicks uniform.....
Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:18 am
When Walker first came in the league, he was a much better scorer in his first couple seasons, than the last 2 years! Because he was more of an inside presence and he couldn't shoot the 3-Ball! But since he started taking so many 3's, I didn't rate him as much as I use too, he takes way too many 3's and still hardly shoots 30-35%!
If he went to the knicks he should restablish his inside presence, and I have to commend his quickness, Walker is quick on the fast break! He should mix up his game, and take timely 3pointers off kick outs from other teammates, etc. But if he's going to play the same style like the past 2 years, I can't see the Knicks benefiting.
Thu Jul 03, 2003 12:59 pm
Antoine Walker can play inside but tends to rely on the three point shot 500-600 times per season. Perhaps it's a case of freedom - if a coach was firmer with Antoine and didn't give him the green light to shoot so many threes, perhaps he might re-establish himself in the post.
If he could cut back to less than 300 attempts in a season, transferring those other 300 attempts to more high percentage shots, he'd be a more effective offensive player. He shoots treys at a high enough percentage to still be a threat from beyond the arc, even with fewer attempts.
Thu Jul 03, 2003 4:10 pm
i don't know if i'm the only that notices this but it seems like when walker gets the ball by the hoop, he just kinda throws it up there. it looks like he doesn't even have control of the ball. and he misses a good percentage of these attempts. i remember moses malone would do this but at least he would end up getting the bucket
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