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Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:47 pm
Easy pickings for this award, Diaw was clearly the MIP. Good on him.
Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:25 pm
well done to him

i think he deserved it
Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:16 pm
i would have went with Parker who considerably improved HIMSELF and without the blessed touch of Nash. Anyways Parker was a beast, especially in the beginning of the season.
Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:54 am
David West should of won
But nice job by Diaw
Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:51 am
Sweet! Great job by Boris, he's had a fantastic season.
Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:10 am
Boris had the blessed touch of Nash
TP had the blessed touch of Eva Longoria
Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:16 am
Andrew wrote:The "increased minutes equals better stats" argument is there, but he still came through with the opportunity given to him, and if that's the standard very few MIP award winners of years gone by truly deserve the honour.
2/3 so far this year. Definitely a selective jinx these days.
Yea, but if you saw him in Euro, he had improvements there already, so it definately wasn't just a minutes thing.
PER min from 04-05:
9.4 points, 5.1 rebounds, 4.5 assists
Obviously showing he already had capabilities. Moving to a big man position increases the rebounds, better teammates, and better system increases the assists, and his own improvement in his shooting helped the scoring. Also like I said in the other thread, driving against PF/C's when the floor is spread so well is easier than driving against PG's and SG's when teams don't have to look out for three point shooters.
Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:21 am
Exactly. People are forgeting how Suns' system helps players' stats.
Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:26 am
Yeah with Nash passing all the time. I could score with the Suns in that system.
Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:50 am
Good for him, he deserves it
Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:11 am
he didn't just improve points. Steve nash can't help you rebound, and can't(necessarily) help you get assists. Or steals. Or blocks. Diaw improved in basically everything. The only stuff Nash can help you improve with is FG%, points, possibly assists, and possibly steals. But David West has Chris Paul, too. He's budding into a Kidd/Nash esque player
Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:18 am
well done Boris Diaw, much deserved
Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:03 pm
fgrep15 wrote:Andrew wrote:The "increased minutes equals better stats" argument is there, but he still came through with the opportunity given to him, and if that's the standard very few MIP award winners of years gone by truly deserve the honour.
2/3 so far this year. Definitely a selective jinx these days.
Yea, but if you saw him in Euro, he had improvements there already, so it definately wasn't just a minutes thing.
PER min from 04-05:
9.4 points, 5.1 rebounds, 4.5 assistsObviously showing he already had capabilities. Moving to a big man position increases the rebounds, better teammates, and better system increases the assists, and his own improvement in his shooting helped the scoring. Also like I said in the other thread, driving against PF/C's when the floor is spread so well is easier than driving against PG's and SG's when teams don't have to look out for three point shooters.
I don't disagree, I picked him to win and thought he was deserving. I was referring more to the fact that argument seems to come up with MIP every time because they generally see an increase in minutes and a more important role on the team. The same can be said about Diaw, at least superficially, but if we're to hold the MIP to that standard then very few winners necessarily deserve the honour.
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