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Jay Williams breaks leg...

Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:08 pm

In a motorcycle accident. They don't have any details apart from that he would go through a 3-4 hour surgery... Damn! Hope he's ok. A lot is going to be on Jamal Crawford's shoulders early next season if this is serious.
Hope J-Wil is ok...

Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:04 pm

Damn, thats not good :(. This kinda accidents are very serious, a "good" exapmle is Derrmar Johnson, whose career is now questionable....
I hope Jay will recover copletely!

Sat Jun 21, 2003 1:00 am

"Break a leg son, break a leg"

Maybe he took his Dad too seriously... :lol:

Nah, seriously, that's not good at all.

Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:33 am

!!! Just as I was telling Limp the other day....Dukies do one or two things:
1. Bust in the NBA.
2. Get injured.

First Grant Hill now Jay Williams....Elton Brand look out!

Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:50 am

Link: http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/cst-spt-bull20.html

That's really too bad, hopefully it'll be one of those "my career is better now because it made me work harder" injuries. Like when people break their shooting wrist and have to practice with the other one. Good luck JWill.(Y)

Sat Jun 21, 2003 3:29 am

its very big hit to bulls.recovery is 4 to 5 months if you have broken leg.its bad really bad.

Sat Jun 21, 2003 5:19 am

theres a lot of speculation going on here in chicago to how serious the injury is. there are even some rumors going on that the injury can be career threatening...

i wasn't a big fan on j-will based on this past years performance... but i feel for the guy. actually i'm still shocked this has happened

gamewiz.. you put a jinx on j-will yesterday!

Sat Jun 21, 2003 11:09 am

This is something you don't want to see, not only for Chicago and Jay professionally, but also for Jay personally. I'm sure Jay doesn't want to go down in history as that lottery pick who entered the NBA with a lot of hype, had a so-so rookie year and was never able to silence the critics due to a career ending injury, so this has got to be extremely frustrating for him as well as physically painful.

Hopefully it's not as serious as feared and Jay will eventually return. But if Grant Hill is anything to go by, that return should not be rushed.

As far as the Bulls go, they'll have to adjust their plans. A backcourt of Jamal and Jay will have to be scrapped for now, and a decent backup point guard will have to be arranged. That KG to Chicago deal is probably much less likely (and I would have been surprised if it happened in the first place) since Jay Will was going to be part of that deal.

But no matter. The important thing is for Jay Will to get healthy again.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 3:26 am

On ESPN motion it said that Williams had nerve damage to his pelvis and would have to have several career threatening surgeries and that he might never play again...

Here's a link to not quite so up to date story...

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0620/1571035.html

Sun Jun 22, 2003 3:32 am

Mmmm... Bobby Hurley kind of feeling about Williams. I really hope he recovers.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 3:37 am

i hope too he recovers.he is good player .
i dont care what year he had.but he had triple double in a rookie season. :shock:
there was two good rookies drew and jay.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:12 am

jason kidd wrote:i hope too he recovers.he is good player .
i dont care what year he had.but he had triple double in a rookie season. :shock:
there was two good rookies drew and jay.

he just finished his rookie year so it was in his 1st year

what do U mean with there are 2 good rookies?
Amare? Caron Butler? Yao Ming?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:36 am

Jason...plz...dont scare me with remarks like there were only 2 good rookies...Amare was FAAAAAR better in production than Gooden was :shock: .

Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:59 am

Andrew wrote:I'm sure Jay doesn't want to go down in history as that lottery pick who entered the NBA with a lot of hype, had a so-so rookie year


The boy was hot garbage. He had a stretch of games where he was only shooting 19%. He was bitching about how he didn't feel like a basketball player, everybody was faster than him, and he wanted to take a couple games off to repair his psyche. I'm saying to myself you sound like a fucking ho with all these fucking feelings and shit. He might as well been saying he didn't feel pretty. He's defintely has some girl flaws to him. Next he starts blaming his shittiness on his teammates and management. I'm glad he got injured. It's probably the best thing that could have happened to him.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:27 am

amare is slow.heś nickname mr.traveling!he always do a traveling when he come to baseline and dunkś the ball!ming is chinase camm oon!
butler-horse face!

Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:49 am

jason kidd wrote:amare is slow.heś nickname mr.traveling!he always do a traveling when he come to baseline and dunkś the ball!ming is chinase camm oon!
butler-horse face!



what u have against chinese ppl??and i see that you think only your favourite players are good... and plz learn how to spell!

Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:51 am

He is not US from his location. Atleast that explains his bad grammar!

Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:55 am

damn, you got a lot of flame starting opinions don't you. The top 3 rookies are really bad players (especially Amare) and you insult them kindergarten-style by calling Caron horse-face. KG you say has a big head (BTW, have you seen his head compared to is body, it's tiny. Unless you're talking ego, I never know with you) and is all bad and shit. All centers are idiots. Talking about Derek Fisher not being able to use strentgh since he's short. Saying that the pavel (no not you Mr. Rubin) is an idiot even though I doubt you;ve ever seen him play for more than a 10 second clip.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:58 am

I still feel sorry for jay, hope he gets well soon
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Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:58 am

at least jamal crawford can play now and make some serious games like he did against the sixers...and by the way gamewiz im from the same state as jason kidd.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:49 am

jason kidd wrote:amare is slow.heś nickname mr.traveling!he always do a traveling when he come to baseline and dunkś the ball!ming is chinase camm oon!
butler-horse face!

First off, what's with the #&347 in all your posts?
Second of all, if Amare was a bad as you say he is, I highly doubt that he would be chosen by so many reporters etc as the Rookie of the Year. If Jay was better than Amare, I think ppl wudve given him the Award.
Yao Ming: Just becuz he's chinese your trying to say the boy cant play ball? ( Suppose u can woop em eh? )
Caron Butler: We're here to discuss how players of the NBA PLAY not how they look, he's got a horse face according to you, who gives a damn? He can play ball can't he? Those remarks just show your level of basketball knowledge :roll: . And plz if you reply, grab a dictionary and form your sentances properly, and dont reply by " F**K you...I do what I want, when I want, Plz :wink:.
It's really sad about Jay, I really think they wouldve made a good backcourt of Jay at the SG and Crawford at the PG position, they'll have to look for a decent back-up Shooting Guard in case it takes longer for Jay to recover...anyways here's wishing him a speedy recovery.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:50 am

Hotboy Ma$e wrote:The boy was hot garbage. He had a stretch of games where he was only shooting 19%. He was bitching about how he didn't feel like a basketball player, everybody was faster than him, and he wanted to take a couple games off to repair his psyche. I'm saying to myself you sound like a fucking ho with all these fucking feelings and shit. He might as well been saying he didn't feel pretty. He's defintely has some girl flaws to him. Next he starts blaming his shittiness on his teammates and management. I'm glad he got injured. It's probably the best thing that could have happened to him.


First off, love the name. ;)

As for the other stuff, well, he was the shit in college and believed it, so once he starts struggling in the NBA of course it's gonna bruise his ego. If one's ego is bruised, the confidence goes down, and if he thinks he's inferior to other players, he will be. As for the quality of his play, it IS the management's fault because Krause wouldn't let them run anything but the Triangle, an offense without a true point guard - which is what Jay is, for the most part, anyway. Because of that, it takes the ball out of William's hands and pretty much takes care of his penetrating ability, especially with a guy like Rose who fancies himself a point guard.

As for that last comment...that's a horrible thing to say. He had a great rookie season, really, just not what he should have had as the second pick (or whatever he was), but like I said, that has a lot to do with the offense the Bulls ran and not on Williams ability to ball. Williams got better each season at Duke and has a good work ethic, so what says he wouldn't have had a great sophomore season or at least improved with that ass Krause out of the front office? We may never know...

It's always a sad thing when a pro athlete's career is in jeopardy...

As for Jason Kidd...you need to relax your opinions and accept the opinions of others. It'll annoy people less and you probably won't get in flame war situations like you're doing so far...you're also less likely to get deleted from the board. :roll:

Oh, and Psycho_Jackal, why would the Bulls put Jay at the two and Crawford at point? Crawford's 6'5 and a much better shooter than Jay, so you'd think they'd put the shorter worse shooting Williams at the point...aren't the Bulls fairly set on drafting Euro-Jordan, anyway?

Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:03 am

I suggested to put him at the SG becuz as u said, he is more of a penetrator. When you put Crawford at the PG, he is handeling the ball more, he is a better distrubutor than Jay is, just becuz Jay is short doesnt mean he HAS to play the PG position ( Iverson comes to mind with Snow ) I would rather have a person who doesnt distrubute that much (Jay in this case, but that is probably becuz of the triangle ) but is quite a penetrator as my SG and sumone like Crawford at the point. I'm sorry if you disagree but that's the way I see it. And about the Euro Jordan thing I'm not quite sure so I couldnt say, the last I checked at www.nbadraft.net, they were listed to pick some PF?. Btw they did work the Jay and Crawford thing this season with Jay at the SG position that's the only reason I mentioned it, since it did work :wink: .

Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:07 am

Ah, well, I would put Jay at point b/c he's much more of a penetrator in my opinion and Crawford's more of a spot up/off the dribble scorer with good handles and decent pass. :P

Check out ESPN.com, Lampe's pry going at 5 to Miami...I guess Pat Riley's really set on him. The Bulls will either pick up Dwayne Wade or Pietrius, they really want a shooting guard since that's the only position they don't really have depth at. I could actually see them taking TJ Ford to replace Williams, but that's really pessimistic for them to do. The nbadraft.net thing doesn't look too realistic to me anymore...the Wizards need a point, so I figure they'll take Hinrich since he's the best thing after Ford...they'll take Ford if he's still around, but then they'd have two guards 6'0 and under, and Lue sucks, so I don't see that happening.

Sun Jun 22, 2003 10:06 am

Enahs Live wrote: As for the quality of his play, it IS the management's fault because Krause wouldn't let them run anything but the Triangle

as mentioned in a previous thread, the bulls basically dropped the triangle for the latter part of the season. especially when jay will was in as PG.

Enahs Live wrote: As for that last comment...that's a horrible thing to say....It's always a sad thing when a pro athlete's career is in jeopardy...

(Y) even if big country bryant were to be involved in an accident such as this, i'd feel bad for the guy

Enahs Live wrote: an offense without a true point guard - which is what Jay is, for the most part, anyway.

if you ask me jay has the game of a shooting guard, he just happens to have the size of a PG. if you take a look at his career at duke, he was a shoot first, pass second guard who ran a lot of isolations and pick-n-rolls. not the classic pg role. and in his soph year, he played mostly SG since duhon took over as pg.
Enahs Live wrote:As for Jason Kidd...you need to relax your opinions and accept the opinions of others. It'll annoy people less and you probably won't get in flame war situations like you're doing so far...you're also less likely to get deleted from the board. :roll:

(Y) thats twice now we've agreed. :o



obviously this injury is a big blow to the bulls. and it really messes up the possible trade scenarios the bulls were involved in. i could be wrong on this one, but i think Pax would have been in favor of trading Jay if he could get a stud defensive sg/sf with a good perimeter game.

and now the bulls will have to address the backup PG situation. with the 7th pick, it doesn't make sense to pick a backup pg there. maybe there's a backup pg they can sign via free agency (anybody know if there's any decent backup PG's available?)

i still hope the bulls land battier...
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