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Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:49 am
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ShAuN wrote:Pierce is more of a team player than LeBron will ever be.
No.
Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:52 am
Not to mention, Delonte is injured as well. And Wally has been playin like crap since he messed up his knee.
Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:58 am
Lol @ Pierce being a better team player. Well he isn't regarded completely as a selfish player, his shot selection was a concern a while ago and his overall passing ability isn't going to wow anyone. Plus you also have to remember that Pierce has never led his team very far into the playoffs throughout his career without the help of Antione Walker.
The same can be said about LeBron, but its only his third season, so we don't really know what he is capable of. Also, James has been known to be a very good passer and have exellent court vision which is why he was compared to Magic for a while.
Not to take away anything on to the shot that Pierce made though. It was absolutely ridiculous how he shot it over two players in his face.
http://cdn.digitalcity.com/aolpolltool/sblgilbird
^ Gilbert's reaction.
Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:31 am
Pierce is a better team leader. His passing ability is really good man. Its just that you guys dont see him play all the time like me. Sure he doesnt get 7apg but his passing ability is sweet And:
LegoPod wrote:I wrote:Pierce is more of a team player than LeBron will ever be.
No.
Wow you really explained yourself there.
Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:02 pm
ShAuN wrote:Pierce is a better team leader. His passing ability is really good man. Its just that you guys dont see him play all the time like me. Sure he doesnt get 7apg but his passing ability is sweet
What Pierce is a better team leader just cause he can pass well? LeBron is a much better passer than pierce. You say he's a better team leader? Does he average 30, 6, 7? No. Is he carrying his team enough to even make the playoffs? Boston will either not make the playoffs or will make it to the 8th spot. This year, Cleveland has Hughes whos injured, Marshall, and Jones. Marshall and Jones are good backup players but not the best. Cleveland has almost the same roster and will probably get the 3-4 spot in the east. Without LeBron, Cleveland would probably won't make the playoffs. In a couple of years, Cleveland might even make it to the finals! I don't think Pierce can carry his team to the finals, do you?
Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:19 pm
Just because LeBron is a better passer doesnt mean hes a better team leader. Pierce THINKS of his team first. LeBron has Jones, Z, Gooden and Marshall. Pierce has really turned West Jefferson and West and Pierce really helped Gomes who they are now.
I know LeBron is better but Pierce is a better team leader.
Nice game tonight by Pierce huh??? 8 points in the last 45 seconds or so. He hit a 3, then another 3, then 2 free throws to get him to 31 points again. Thats 13 out of is last 14 w/ 30 or more and 8th straight. He also had 31 pts, 11 rebs and 10asts and 3 blocks. Hes getting better, and better and amazing!
Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:31 pm
True, Pierce had an amazing game!

..This is his season!
Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:05 pm
I'll agree on the Pierce being less selfish part.
Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:21 pm
You guys are starting to piss me off. Does he pay you money for sexual favours and homeristic posts?
Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:40 pm
Pierce is more clutch, a better team leader than Lebron..
But i wouldn't be so sure when Lebron turns like 25...
Pierce is a good passer..
Lebron is a great passer, and great court vision..
Pierce is above avg on both of this... Lebron is great.. its diff, not comparable..
Lebron i would say is/will be another level above Pierce, hes just more athletic, more talented... He doesn't have the mentality yet, he will never have kobe's mentality.. Lebron is more a team player, which may NOT be good, b/c he might lack that killer instinct.. I say put Lebron with sum1 who wants to kill opponents on the court ( Mike James, Ruben Patterson, Kobe Bryant) and you have a deadly combo, even tho patterson/mike james are not, good enuf...
Pierce had a great game, this is his best season, hes got MVP-like numbers, i wouldnt' say Cavs team is worst than Celtics.. Big Z is an all-star, Gooden is a double/double guy, they have solid shooters in Marshall/Jones and energy players, they have a make-up of a high seed playoff contender with hughes there
Celtics prob have a playoff bound team when healthy at best.. THey will however, when Big Al J, Perkins, Gomes, West develop and Wally is healhty, they can be a 5-6 seed (in 1-2 seasons) Thats only if Big Al turns out to be a 14/7 guy, with Perkins getting 10points and 10rebounds an da few blocks, with delonte doing sumthing like a 14/6/5 and Gomes going 15/8 every night
Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:57 pm
LeBron James is an attrocious defender, Paul Pierce is a good defender.
how is someone who averages 22.8 shots per game unselfish? He forces shots too....and he doesn't pass as much as his APG imply.....there's more to passing than racking up assists.
Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:02 pm
ShAuN wrote:Pierce is a better team leader. His passing ability is really good man. Its just that you guys dont see him play all the time like me. Sure he doesnt get 7apg but his passing ability is sweet And:
LegoPod wrote:I wrote:Pierce is more of a team player than LeBron will ever be.
No.
Wow you really explained yourself there.
You see them play all the time from Massachusetts? Yeah watching TV is being a real fan. Even Brad Miller was averaging more assists then Pierce. Paul Pierce being a better team player then Bron? Please.

How does LeBron have to do it the 'fancy' way, i dont see Bron trying to force behind the back passes and crossovers. Last time i checked, bron gets it done too.
Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:21 pm
Matt wrote:...there's more to passing than racking up assists.
Preach it brother man!!
I couldnt agree with you more, I was talking about the same thing in another thread the other day. Just because a guy gets 7/8/9 assists doesnt mean they were all quality assists and I find that Lebron's assists pile up cuz his teammates seem to jack up a shot everytime Lebron passes whether or not they have a defender in their mug.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:05 am
Shaun, I can't believe how big of a homer you are. I would normally praise someone for being so prideful of their home team, but I think you're acting a tad bit ignorant.
Pierce hasn't successfully led his team to a playoff run, especially without Fatione. LeBron's in his third season and is playoff bound. Think about that. We don't know how well the Cavs will do in the playoffs, but with James being so young and getting into the playoffs this early in this stage in his career shows you something.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:51 am
not really......there have been some great talents that couldn't/still haven't gotten out of the 1st rnd of playoffs for a long time.....G Hill, Garnett, T-Mac even Kobe (solo).
Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:19 am
If assists determine how one plays within a system then you're saying Marbury is a great team player. A team player just does whatever he can to help the team win.
Even though the touch foul rule helps quite a bit, Pierce has finally gotten his swagger back. Hopefully the organization makes some smart moves in the offseason, and the team can start winning.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:46 am
Matt wrote:LeBron James is an attrocious defender, Paul Pierce is a good defender.
how is someone who averages 22.8 shots per game unselfish? He forces shots too....and he doesn't pass as much as his APG imply.....there's more to passing than racking up assists.
THANK YOU. Thats exaclty what Ive been trying to say I just couldnt put it out in words or text.......
Pierce is a better team leader than LeBron without a doubt. Pierce never gets down in the locker rooms. He tells what his team is doing wrong. Hes mentouring GMoney and Gomes etc.... LeBron just wants to score.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:57 am
t0x1c wrote:ShAuN wrote:Pierce is a better team leader. His passing ability is really good man. Its just that you guys dont see him play all the time like me. Sure he doesnt get 7apg but his passing ability is sweet
What Pierce is a better team leader just cause he can pass well? LeBron is a much better passer than pierce. You say he's a better team leader? Does he average 30, 6, 7? No. Is he carrying his team enough to even make the playoffs? Boston will either not make the playoffs or will make it to the 8th spot. This year, Cleveland has Hughes whos injured, Marshall, and Jones. Marshall and Jones are good backup players but not the best. Cleveland has almost the same roster and will probably get the 3-4 spot in the east. Without LeBron, Cleveland would probably won't make the playoffs. In a couple of years, Cleveland might even make it to the finals! I don't think Pierce can carry his team to the finals, do you?
Exactly. That just proves my point. Nobody, except people who actually WATCH the celtics know what they're talking about.
The celtics have the youngest team in the league right after the hawks.
Look, all of the top 5 youngest teams have horrible records. If the Celtics were more experienced, by god they would be a championship calibur team. I mean, c'mon now. Look at that talent. (Pretend they didn't have Brian Scalabrine. lol). Al Jefferson, Paul Pierce, Delonte West, Tony Allen, RYAN GOMES, Raef Lafrentz, Kendric Perkins, GERALD GREEN.<<In which case he IS going to be the next Tracy McGrady.
You guys really don't know what you're talking about. When someone says "Delonte West." People hardly know who he is. If you were from Boston, you would know what I mean when I say this guy is a ridiculous shooter, ridiculous BLOCKER (best pg at blocking in the league), he's got this death touch from beyond the ark, he's an ATTROCIOUS (I've been hearing a lot of that word lately..on this thread) defender, he can dunk the ball, and he's by all means a great passer. As well as stealing, rebounding, etc.
Same with much more players on the Celtics, but I don't really think I need to say much more because I'm gonna start a lot of arguements and I'll just end up right, because, yet again, I am from Boston.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:40 am
You guys have as much credibility as Chad Ford hopped up on acid.
I mean fuck, if we were to believe everything the two of you spewed out, Gerald Green is the new messiah, Delonte West should be DPOY, Ryan Gomes is another Barkley, LeBron James is a ball hogging loser who only wants to score and does nothing else, Paul Pierce should be MVP but gets overlooked because of who he plays for etc etc.
Get a grip on reality people, this is lame as hell.
Same with much more players on the Celtics, but I don't really think I need to say much more because I'm gonna start a lot of arguements and I'll just end up right, because, yet again, I am from Boston.
You'll be right just because you live in Boston? You're an idiot... and I'm right because I live in Australia.
For your information btw, your little Boston buddy over there ShAuN has about 19 favourite teams and jock rides whatever player is the flavour of the month. So enjoy the support while it lasts, first bad game Pierce has and he'll be back to Wade or Paul or etc.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:48 am
You forgot Gilbert Arenas, omg that kid can play he is the mvp but he is overlooked and pierce is not so good compared to him so bron is a ballhog and gilbert is the pwn and shaun is a moron and pierce is the mvp if gilbert was in lebron and dwayne wade is shaqs big toe so i see i am mvp since i am from japan and your mom is a bitch shaun so i am the mvp and now you will say i am a trouble maker and i wont mind, given i am so i will just resort to a sarcastic remakr and people will say i shouldnt be so rude and they will forget what a moron you are and then someone who actually read this much will wonder how many more times i'm going to say adn then and then i'll do it again by saying and then gilbert arenas is the new magic johnson and then lebron is the koby briant and then the pierce was the best player ever after gilbert was stabbed, no and then pierce is so much better because he was stabbed, he was stabbed so his game winning shots are much more important and then the game winning shot was so cool we automatically needed to say he is the real mvp but since the league or its fans dont like boston he'll not win it and then its more important that he is awesome and not that hes winning a lot more that he is mvp, yeah so underrated.
And then...I could go on & on, but I have to pee.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:50 am
the cavs roster is easily better and more experienced then the Celtics roster
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:53 am
Jackal wrote:You forgot Gilbert Arenas, omg that kid can play he is the mvp but he is overlooked and pierce is not so good compared to him so bron is a ballhog and gilbert is the pwn and shaun is a moron and pierce is the mvp if gilbert was in lebron and dwayne wade is shaqs big toe so i see i am mvp since i am from japan and your mom is a bitch shaun so i am the mvp and now you will say i am a trouble maker and i wont mind, given i am so i will just resort to a sarcastic remakr and people will say i shouldnt be so rude and they will forget what a moron you are and then someone who actually read this much will wonder how many more times i'm going to say adn then and then i'll do it again by saying and then gilbert arenas is the new magic johnson and then lebron is the koby briant and then the pierce was the best player ever after gilbert was stabbed, no and then pierce is so much better because he was stabbed, he was stabbed so his game winning shots are much more important and then the game winning shot was so cool we automatically needed to say he is the real mvp but since the league or its fans dont like boston he'll not win it and then its more important that he is awesome and not that hes winning a lot more that he is mvp, yeah so underrated.
And then...I could go on & on, but I have to pee.
owned.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:14 am
Mikki. wrote:Jackal wrote:You forgot Gilbert Arenas, omg that kid can play he is the mvp but he is overlooked and pierce is not so good compared to him so bron is a ballhog and gilbert is the pwn and shaun is a moron and pierce is the mvp if gilbert was in lebron and dwayne wade is shaqs big toe so i see i am mvp since i am from japan and your mom is a bitch shaun so i am the mvp and now you will say i am a trouble maker and i wont mind, given i am so i will just resort to a sarcastic remakr and people will say i shouldnt be so rude and they will forget what a moron you are and then someone who actually read this much will wonder how many more times i'm going to say adn then and then i'll do it again by saying and then gilbert arenas is the new magic johnson and then lebron is the koby briant and then the pierce was the best player ever after gilbert was stabbed, no and then pierce is so much better because he was stabbed, he was stabbed so his game winning shots are much more important and then the game winning shot was so cool we automatically needed to say he is the real mvp but since the league or its fans dont like boston he'll not win it and then its more important that he is awesome and not that hes winning a lot more that he is mvp, yeah so underrated.
And then...I could go on & on, but I have to pee.
owned.
You should really learn how to spell. Ive always been a Pierce fan ever since i was about 10. I never really mentioned it because Ive liked Wade and Arenas' game too.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:18 am
The spelling was deliberate...
Ive always been a Pierce fan ever since i was about 10. I never really mentioned it because Ive liked Wade and Arenas' game too.

... right.
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:19 am
That's got to be the worst excuse ever.
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