Too many fouls, and too many free throws!!

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Too many fouls, and too many free throws!!

Postby Axel on Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:49 pm

Just an observation, but it seems to me that the number of free throws, and foul calls is becoming completely ridiculous in the NBA. Any little amount of contact = foul. Are players just pussies and can't take the contact, or do we really need that many extra points to 'make the game more exciting'? I personally don't find the extra scoring exciting, especially when it comes from the free throw line.

Today in the Heat v. Magic game, Miami shot 47 free throws, and Orlando shot 37. It's just ridiculous, on both sides. The game is stopped every couple of seconds and nothing special really happens. If this is their idea of making the game more enjoyable, it really isn't working.

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Postby Scotty on Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:51 pm

i agree, it stops the flow of the game (N)
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Postby dada on Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:53 pm

Its annoying yes, but its not like every game is like that. There are some where the refs barely ever blow the whistle and that is frustrating also. Its both extremes kinda.
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Postby tongefactor40 on Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:47 pm

seems like the nba adds one more thing every season that the defensive players cant do, as if the offensive guys need any additional help. media/fans like offense though, and with these current rules, that is exactly what they get
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Postby Matt on Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:43 pm

damn the NBA for taking away the hand checking on the perimeter. I like the more physical brand of ball, it at least looks like guys are playing hard.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:48 pm

The thing that really bugs me these days compared to the NBA of yesteryear is the use of timeouts. Sometimes a team will go down 6-0 in the first two minutes and call time. The mandatory timeouts also slow the game down and do nothing but appeal to the companies that have bought ad time during the games.
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Postby Blue Nugget on Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:46 pm

Matt wrote:damn the NBA for taking away the hand checking on the perimeter. I like the more physical brand of ball, it at least looks like guys are playing hard.


What exactly was that 'hand-checking' I keep hearing about?
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Postby Num33Baller on Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:46 pm

Green Lantern wrote:
Matt wrote:damn the NBA for taking away the hand checking on the perimeter. I like the more physical brand of ball, it at least looks like guys are playing hard.


What exactly was that 'hand-checking' I keep hearing about?


Touching the opponent with the hands.

Almost pushing, but not quite.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/bsp/ ... ecking.stm
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Postby cklitsie on Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:46 pm

If you like physical play, watch Big East basketball.. (Y) :mrgreen:
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Postby Matt on Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:39 am

The thing that really bugs me these days compared to the NBA of yesteryear is the use of timeouts. Sometimes a team will go down 6-0 in the first two minutes and call time. The mandatory timeouts also slow the game down and do nothing but appeal to the companies that have bought ad time during the games.


yeah i know, i hate that. At least we have 6 TO's instead of 7 like before, and teams can only carry 3 into 4th instead of 4.
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Postby John WB on Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:59 am

Matt wrote:
The thing that really bugs me these days compared to the NBA of yesteryear is the use of timeouts. Sometimes a team will go down 6-0 in the first two minutes and call time. The mandatory timeouts also slow the game down and do nothing but appeal to the companies that have bought ad time during the games.


yeah i know, i hate that. At least we have 6 TO's instead of 7 like before, and teams can only carry 3 into 4th instead of 4.

I hate it too. I enjoy the more physical style of play and it does seem like players of today are babied.. Bunch of pussies..
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Postby air2k5 on Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:29 am

:P Like the time Chancey took his jersey off because he had blood on it :P . Entire arena screamed, lol, It took 3 minutes for gmae to resume, In past years you just played through it.
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Postby Axel on Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:10 am

air2k5 wrote::P Like the time Chancey took his jersey off because he had blood on it :P . Entire arena screamed, lol, It took 3 minutes for gmae to resume, In past years you just played through it.


No... I can see why they require that. Players could have an STD or another disease transmitted through blood. If Magic had blood on his jersey, there is no way I would defend him. Do you really want to risk transmitting HIV?
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Postby mark_30_112 on Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:50 am

True,
But alot of players probably don't have the disease but you can't take any chance with that kind of thing.

That's why they make the players have short nails because if someone his cut with another player's nails it can cause all sorts of things. Mainly bacterial diseases.
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Postby air gordon on Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:21 am

it's the NBA trying to currtail to the "stupid" part of the fanbase/people still not fans of the NBA. The NBA marketing people think the casual fan wants to see high flying dunks and fast break basketball.

plus also the NBA is in a way trying to protect it's multimillionaire superstars

bah I don't want to open this can of worms any further
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Postby maes on Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:07 am

Green Lantern wrote:
Matt wrote:damn the NBA for taking away the hand checking on the perimeter. I like the more physical brand of ball, it at least looks like guys are playing hard.


What exactly was that 'hand-checking' I keep hearing about?


If you touch someone with your hands it's an automatic foul, Unless you are in a post-up situation (and even then, i think you're limited to just 1 forearm).

It sounds like a joke but it's not.

http://www.nba.com/features/misundersto ... d_Checking
Hand Checking: A defender may not place and keep his hand on an opponent unless he is in the area near the basket with his back to the basket.


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Postby hipn on Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:38 am

Too many fould and I hate how big name players get all the calls and go to the stripe. Like Kobe, you touch his arm a bit and bam!! a foul!! You touch Milicic on his arm a bit, play continues.
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Postby dada on Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:44 pm

I hate this whole hand-checking issue because I really dont feel its that big a deal. Yes its not allowed but its not like they call it all the time. I keep hearing about how the league wants more offense but I dont see teams putting up 120 a night so I would say it has little or no impact on the game. Maybe the impact it has is to make people not score as much as they potentially could because a few times I have seen opportunities to score taken away because they made that call right before the player made the move. Oh well...
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Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:39 pm

Perfect example of the timeout abuse today in the Spurs/Sixers game. Iguodala opens up the scoring with a huge dunk and the Spurs take a timeout with 11:37 left in the first quarter. Not even a minute in and it's apparently bad enough to call time! Admittedly it was only a 20 second timeout but stopping the game over the first basket of the game?

I guess I'm getting old, because I can remember a time when coaches used to let their team play before deciding something was wrong.
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Postby Num33Baller on Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:45 pm

Andrew wrote:Perfect example of the timeout abuse today in the Spurs/Sixers game. Iguodala opens up the scoring with a huge dunk and the Spurs take a timeout with 11:37 left in the first quarter. Not even a minute in and it's apparently bad enough to call time! Admittedly it was only a 20 second timeout but stopping the game over the first basket of the game?

I guess I'm getting old, because I can remember a time when coaches used to let their team play before deciding something was wrong.



if someone blew a matchup..... or pop wanted to change the defensive matchups, I can see where hes coming from.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:11 pm

I can see where he's coming from but 23 seconds into the game is just crazy. The Spurs did of course lose the game but one could attribute that to Iggy's clutch tip with a second left, rather than his explosive dunk to opening the scoring. It just felt like a knee-jerk reaction to a good play that hardly put the game in jeopardy.
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Postby Matt on Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:46 pm

yeah that was stupid. and he replaced Ginobili too, lol.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:09 pm

I understand the approach to discipline and everything, but 23 seconds in? Down 0-2? Come on...
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Postby Sauru on Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:27 am

i hate the amount of foul calls in the nba now, and they only do it to try and increase scoring so it looks likes todays players are so much better than they are. its sad the way the nba has turned in an effort to increase scoreing but the constant foul shots is still better than the closer 3 point line if you ask me
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Postby skateballer on Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:21 am

Listen guys, like my dad said one time, "Refs are humans. They make mistakes just like we do."
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