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Postby ultimateplaya on Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:15 pm

the only thing i dont like is dat it has like t-mac in 3 different teams and for other players has the same thing
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Postby Michael Jordan on Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:31 pm

- You completely ignored the Wizards, they have their greats other than Wes Unseld, you didn't even include Gilbert Arenas, you put him in the warriors but the Washington team was where he actually is pwning. Larry Hughes could go in there as well.
- Put Jason Hart on the Bobcats
- Put Sprewell on the Timberwolves, even Cassell and Ebi and other players as well... rather than their current roster with Marbury added.


On the readme I mentioned that There are few teams that I didn't made roster for them.

Those teams are :

    Charlotte Bobcats,
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Dallas Mavericks
    Denver Nuggets
    Memphis Grizzlies
    Minnesota Timberwolves
    Washington Wizards

My next issue will be to complete the roster for those teams.


On this update you can find few historic players on the Mavericks and Nuggets rosters.


the only thing i dont like is dat it has like t-mac in 3 different teams and for other players has the same thing


T-mac was great with 3 teams - Raptors, Magic and Rockets. I'm sure he deserves to be on those teams roster.
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Postby lapis on Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:06 am

Cool patch. I would like to see ainge on the celtics.
Also I think T-mac should only be with the magic. when he was with raptors noone really knew who he was, he really started to shine when he was forced to put the magic on his back, and to me he doesnt have enough history with rockets.
not to nitpick but im a celtics fan, ,birds rebounding stats should be alittle better in 85-86 he averaged 9.8 per game leading the team and out rebounding every player on the lackers that year. best lacker was kareem with 6.1 per game. suck it lackers :).
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Postby obi on Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:00 am

for the crash bug in dinasty mode,

it may be the money : i mean, some teams had -150M$ deficit when season starts.
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Postby Jugs on Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:56 pm

On the readme I mentioned that There are few teams that I didn't made roster for them.


oooo sorry for my ignorance, my bad.

good patch though
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Postby accx23 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:08 am

This is the Legends Roster I use for Live 04. It might be of some help.

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ATL,0,Mutombo,Dikembe
ATL,1,Laettner,Christian
ATL,2,Wilkins,Dominique
ATL,3,Smith,Steve
ATL,4,Rivers,Doc
ATL,5,Blaylock,Mookie
ATL,6,Jackson,Stephen
ATL,7,Sura,Bob
ATL,8,Willis,Kevin
ATL,9,Pettit,Bob
ATL,10,Diaw,Boris
ATL,11,Henderson,Alan
ATL,12,Crawford,Chris

BOS,0,Parish,Robert
BOS,1,Walker,Antoine
BOS,2,Bird,Larry
BOS,3,Pierce,Paul
BOS,4,Brown,Dee
BOS,5,Russell,Bill
BOS,6,McHale,Kevin
BOS,7,Havlicek,John
BOS,8,Davis,Ricky
BOS,9,Cousy,Bob
BOS,10,McCarty,Walter
BOS,11,Cowens,Dave
BOS,12,Archibald,Nate
BOS,13,LaFrentz,Raef

CHI,0,Longley,Luc
CHI,1,Rodman,Dennis
CHI,2,Pippen,Scottie
CHI,3,Jordan,Michael
CHI,4,Harper,Ron
CHI,5,Kukoc,Toni
CHI,6,Kerr,Steve
CHI,7,Grant,Horace
CHI,8,Buechler,Jud
CHI,9,Wennington,Bill
CHI,10,Caffey,Jason
CHI,11,Brown,Randy
CHI,12,Simpkins,Dickey
CHI,13,Armstrong,B.J.
CHI,14,Paxson,John

CLE,0,Ilgauskas,Zydrunas
CLE,1,Boozer,Carlos
CLE,2,Ehlo,Craig
CLE,3,James,LeBron
CLE,4,Price,Mark
CLE,5,Brandon,Terrell
CLE,6,Battie,Tony
CLE,7,McInnis,Jeff
CLE,8,Williams,Eric
CLE,9,Nailon,Lee
CLE,10,Newble,Ira
CLE,11,Person,Wesley
CLE,12,Wagner,Dajuan
CLE,13,Ollie,Kevin
CLE,14,Diop,DeSagana

DAL,0,Fortson,Danny
DAL,1,Nowitzki,Dirk
DAL,2,Jamison,Antawn
DAL,3,Finley,Michael
DAL,4,Nash,Steve
DAL,5,Howard,Josh
DAL,6,Terry,Jason
DAL,7,Bradley,Shawn
DAL,8,Najera,Eduardo
DAL,9,Daniels,Marquis
DAL,10,Delk,Tony
DAL,11,Williams,Scott
DAL,12,Stefansson,Jon
DAL,13,Abdul-Wahad,Tariq

DEN,0,Camby,Marcus
DEN,1,Nene,
DEN,2,Anthony,Carmelo
DEN,3,English,Alex
DEN,4,Miller,Andre
DEN,5,Barry,Jon
DEN,6,Boykins,Earl
DEN,7,Butler,Rasual
DEN,8,Ellis,LaPhonso
DEN,9,Andersen,Chris
DEN,10,Doleac,Michael
DEN,11,White,Rodney
DEN,12,Bowen,Ryan
DEN,13,Elson,Francisco
DEN,14,Trepagnier,Jeff

DET,0,Wallace,Ben
DET,1,Wallace,Rasheed
DET,2,Hamilton,Richard
DET,3,Dumars,Joe
DET,4,Thomas,Isiah
DET,5,Prince,Tayshaun
DET,6,Billups,Chauncey
DET,7,Johnson,Vinnie
DET,8,Laimbeer,Bill
DET,9,Mahorn,Rick
DET,10,Aguirre,Mark
DET,11,Campbell,Elden
DET,12,Williamson,Corliss
DET,13,Hunter,Lindsey
DET,14,Okur,Mehmet

GS,0,Dampier,Erick
GS,1,Robinson,Cliff
GS,2,Mullin,Chris
GS,3,Richardson,Jason
GS,4,Van Exel,Nick
GS,5,Dunleavy,Mike
GS,6,Barry,Rick
GS,7,Claxton,Speedy
GS,8,Murphy,Troy
GS,9,Lucas,Jerry
GS,10,Mills,Chris
GS,11,Coles,Bimbo
GS,12,Foyle,Adonal
GS,13,Cardinal,Brian
GS,14,Pietrus,Mickael

HOU,0,Olajuwon,Hakeem
HOU,1,Ming,Yao
HOU,2,Elie,Mario
HOU,3,Drexler,Clyde
HOU,4,Francis,Steve
HOU,5,Jackson,Jimmy
HOU,6,Smith,Kenny
HOU,7,Mobley,Cuttino
HOU,8,Thorpe,Otis
HOU,9,Cato,Kelvin
HOU,10,Padgett,Scott
HOU,11,Weatherspoon,Clarence
HOU,12,Taylor,Maurice
HOU,13,Piatkowski,Eric
HOU,14,Griffin,Adrian

IND,0,Smits,Rik
IND,1,O'Neal,Jermaine
IND,2,Artest,Ron
IND,3,Miller,Reggie
IND,4,Jackson,Mark
IND,5,Rose,Jalen
IND,6,Tinsley,Jamaal
IND,7,Harrington,Al
IND,8,Davis,Dale
IND,9,Davis,Antonio
IND,10,Jones,Fred
IND,11,Best,Travis
IND,12,Bender,Jonathan
IND,13,Croshere,Austin
IND,14,Foster,Jeff

LAC,0,Kaman,Chris
LAC,1,Brand,Elton
LAC,2,Manning,Danny
LAC,3,Maggette,Corey
LAC,4,Jaric,Marko
LAC,5,Richardson,Quentin
LAC,6,Dooling,Keyon
LAC,7,Simmons,Bobby
LAC,8,Wilcox,Chris
LAC,9,Drobnjak,Predrag
LAC,10,House,Eddie
LAC,11,Ely,Melvin
LAC,12,Barnes,Matt
LAC,13,Overton,Doug
LAC,14,Moore,Josh

LAL,0,O'Neal,Shaquille
LAL,1,Horry,Robert
LAL,2,Worthy,James
LAL,3,Bryant,Kobe
LAL,4,Johnson,Magic
LAL,5,Abdul-Jabbar,Kareem
LAL,6,Scott,Byron
LAL,7,Fox,Rick
LAL,8,Green,AC
LAL,9,Fisher,Derek
LAL,10,Chamberlain,Wilt
LAL,11,Baylor,Elgin
LAL,12,West,Jerry
LAL,13,George,Devean
LAL,14,Walton,Luke

MEM,0,Wright,Lorenzen
MEM,1,Gasol,Pau
MEM,2,Posey,James
MEM,3,Wells,Bonzi
MEM,4,Williams,Jason
MEM,5,Miller,Mike
MEM,6,Battier,Shane
MEM,7,Swift,Stromile
MEM,8,Outlaw,Bo
MEM,9,Watson,Earl
MEM,10,Jones,Dahntay
MEM,11,Tsakalidis,Jake
MEM,12,Humphrey,Ryan
MEM,13,Smith,Theron
MEM,14,Bell,Troy

MIA,0,Mourning,Alonzo
MIA,1,Odom,Lamar
MIA,2,Mashburn,Jamal
MIA,3,Wade,Dwyane
MIA,4,Hardaway,Tim
MIA,5,Jones,Eddie
MIA,6,Lenard,Voshon
MIA,7,Butler,Caron
MIA,8,Brown,P.J.
MIA,9,Grant,Brian
MIA,10,Haslem,Udonis
MIA,11,Alston,Rafer
MIA,12,Walker,Samaki
MIA,13,Wallace,John
MIA,14,Woods,Loren

MIL,0,Baker,Vin
MIL,1,Van Horn,Keith
MIL,2,Robinson,Glenn
MIL,3,Redd,Michael
MIL,4,Ford,TJ
MIL,5,Mason,Desmond
MIL,6,Smith,Joe
MIL,7,Robertson,Oscar
MIL,8,Jones,Damon
MIL,9,Lanier,Bob
MIL,10,Knight,Brevin
MIL,11,Gadzuric,Dan
MIL,12,Skinner,Brian
MIL,13,Haislip,Marcus
MIL,14,Strickland,Erick

MIN,0,Olowokandi,Michael
MIN,1,Garnett,Kevin
MIN,2,Szczerbiak,Wally
MIN,3,Rider,Isaiah
MIN,4,Cassell,Sam
MIN,5,Hassell,Trenton
MIN,6,Hudson,Troy
MIN,7,Hoiberg,Fred
MIN,8,Madsen,Mark
MIN,9,Trent,Gary
MIN,10,Martin,Darrick
MIN,11,Ebi,Ndudi

NJ,0,Gatling,Chris
NJ,1,Martin,Kenyon
NJ,2,Jefferson,Richard
NJ,3,Kittles,Kerry
NJ,4,Kidd,Jason
NJ,5,Anderson,Kenny
NJ,6,Harris,Lucious
NJ,7,Rogers,Rodney
NJ,8,Williams,Aaron
NJ,9,Collins,Jason
NJ,10,Davis,Hubert
NJ,11,Scalabrine,Brian
NJ,12,Planinic,Zoran
NJ,13,Armstrong,Brandon
NJ,14,Slay,Tamar

NO,0,Magloire,Jamaal
NO,1,Johnson,Larry
NO,2,Rice,Glen
NO,3,Wesley,David
NO,4,Davis,Baron
NO,5,Gill,Kendall
NO,6,Bogues,Muggsy
NO,7,Augmon,Stacey
NO,8,Geiger,Matt
NO,9,Traylor,Robert
NO,10,Phills,Bobby
NO,11,Armstrong,Darrell
NO,12,Williams,Shammond
NO,13,West,David

NY,0,Ewing,Patrick
NY,1,Oakley,Charles
NY,2,Sprewell,Latrell
NY,3,Starks,John
NY,4,Marbury,Stephon
NY,5,Houston,Allan
NY,6,Mason,Anthony
NY,7,Thomas,Kurt
NY,8,Harper,Derek
NY,9,Reed,Willis
NY,10,Frazier,Walt
NY,11,Monroe,Earl
NY,12,Anthony,Greg
NY,13,Childs,Chris
NY,14,Ward,Charlie

ORL,0,O'Neal,Shaquille
ORL,1,Howard,Dwight
ORL,2,Hill,Grant
ORL,3,McGrady,Tracy
ORL,4,Hardaway,Penny
ORL,5,Anderson,Nick
ORL,6,Scott,Dennis
ORL,7,Shaw,Brian
ORL,8,Grant,Horace
ORL,9,Gooden,Drew
ORL,10,Stevenson,DeShawn
ORL,11,Garrity,Pat
ORL,12,Hunter,Steven
ORL,13,DeClercq,Andrew
ORL,14,Lue,Tyronn

PHI,0,Malone,Moses
PHI,1,Thomas,Kenny
PHI,2,Erving,Julius
PHI,3,Iverson,Allen
PHI,4,Snow,Eric
PHI,5,McKie,Aaron
PHI,6,Cunningham,Billy
PHI,7,Coleman,Derrick
PHI,8,Dalembert,Samuel
PHI,9,Greer,Hal
PHI,10,Lynch,George
PHI,11,Jackson,Marc
PHI,12,MacCulloch,Todd
PHI,13,Green,Willie
PHI,14,Buckner,Greg

PHO,0,Stoudemire,Amare
PHO,1,Barkley,Charles
PHO,2,Marion,Shawn
PHO,3,Majerle,Dan
PHO,4,Johnson,Kevin
PHO,5,Johnson,Joe
PHO,6,McDyess,Antonio
PHO,7,Gugliotta,Tom
PHO,8,Perry,Elliot
PHO,9,Miller,Oliver
PHO,10,Chapman,Rex
PHO,11,Clark,Keon
PHO,12,Barbosa,Leandrinho
PHO,13,Harvey,Donnell
PHO,14,White,Jahidi

POR,0,Sabonis,Arvydas
POR,1,Walton,Bill
POR,2,Abdur-Rahim,Shareef
POR,3,Miles,Darius
POR,4,Stoudamire,Damon
POR,5,Randolph,Zach
POR,6,Anderson,Derek
POR,7,Porter,Terry
POR,8,Patterson,Ruben
POR,9,Ratliff,Theo
POR,10,Woods,Qyntel
POR,11,Stepania,Vladimir
POR,12,Outlaw,Travis
POR,13,Dickau,Dan
POR,13,Gill,Eddie

SAC,0,Divac,Vlade
SAC,1,Webber,Chris
SAC,2,Stojakovic,Peja
SAC,3,Richmond,Mitch
SAC,4,Bibby,Mike
SAC,5,Christie,Doug
SAC,6,Jackson,Bobby
SAC,7,Miller,Brad
SAC,8,Peeler,Anthony
SAC,9,Songaila,Darius
SAC,10,Wallace,Gerald
SAC,11,Pollard,Scot
SAC,12,Massenburg,Tony
SAC,13,Buford,Rodney
SAC,14,Smith,Jabari

SA,0,Robinson,David
SA,1,Duncan,Tim
SA,2,Elliott,Sean
SA,3,Ginobili,Emanuel
SA,4,Parker,Tony
SA,5,Bowen,Bruce
SA,6,Gervin,George
SA,7,Johnson,Avery
SA,8,Rose,Malik
SA,9,Nesterovic,Rasho
SA,10,Turkoglu,Hedo
SA,11,Brown,Devin
SA,12,Mohammed,Nazr

SEA,0,Johnson,Ervin
SEA,1,Kemp,Shawn
SEA,2,Lewis,Rashard
SEA,3,Allen,Ray
SEA,4,Payton,Gary
SEA,5,Schrempf,Detlef
SEA,6,Hawkins,Hersey
SEA,7,Barry,Brent
SEA,8,Collison,Nick
SEA,9,Potapenko,Vitaly
SEA,10,Daniels,Antonio
SEA,11,Radmanovic,Vladimir
SEA,12,Murray,Ronald
SEA,13,Ridnour,Luke
SEA,14,James,Jerome

TOR,0,Bosh,Chris
TOR,1,Marshall,Donyell
TOR,2,Carter,Vince
TOR,3,Peterson,Morris
TOR,4,Williams,Alvin
TOR,5,Murray,Lamond
TOR,6,Curry,Michael
TOR,7,Mason Jr.,Roger
TOR,8,Blount,Corie
TOR,9,Moiso,Jerome
TOR,10,Glover,Dion
TOR,11,Palacio,Milt
TOR,12,Archibald,Robert

UTAH,0,Ostertag,Greg
UTAH,1,Malone,Karl
UTAH,2,Russell,Bryon
UTAH,3,Hornacek,Jeff
UTAH,4,Stockton,John
UTAH,5,Kirilenko,Andrei
UTAH,6,Eisley,Howard
UTAH,7,Morris,Chris
UTAH,8,Anderson,Shandon
UTAH,9,Foster,Greg
UTAH,10,Maravich,Pete
UTAH,11,Harpring,Matt
UTAH,12,Giricek,Gordan
UTAH,13,Bell,Raja
UTAH,14,Collins,Jarron

WAS,0,Muresan,Gheorghe
WAS,1,Howard,Juwan
WAS,2,Stackhouse,Jerry
WAS,3,Hughes,Larry
WAS,4,Arenas,Gilbert
WAS,5,Murray,Tracy
WAS,6,Strickland,Rod
WAS,7,Cheaney,Calbert
WAS,8,Brown,Kwame
WAS,9,Unseld,Wes
WAS,10,Dixon,Juan
WAS,11,Haywood,Brendan
WAS,12,Thomas,Etan
WAS,13,Jeffries,Jared
WAS,14,Hayes,Jarvis
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Postby #12 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:15 am

^^^
that is very outdated!!!
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Postby Michael Jordan on Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:11 am

for the crash bug in dinasty mode,

it may be the money : i mean, some teams had -150M$ deficit when season starts.


Is there a way to increase the deficit for those teams except from lowering the players salary ?



acastrocaillaux - Thanks for the information. I hope to use some of those in my roster (I agree with #12 that many of the teams rosters are outdated)

BTW - what is better : to apply a player a speech ID that sounds alike or to leave it without a speech ID. For example - Elvin Hayes with Jarvis Hayes speech ID or with no speech ID at all, same with B.J Armstrong (Darell Armstorng), mark price (brent price) and so on. What is better ?
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Postby accx23 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:41 pm

I know it is outdated. It is based on the last Andrew's roster for Live 04 if I remember well, and also his 96 Season Roster.

I've played the game since Live 95. Always with the 96-98 Bulls. When the Dinasty ended, I decided to keep the Bulls intact, while updating the rest of the teams. When the rosters became too different to the ones Jordan and the Bulls played against, it wasn't fun anymore.

That's why I decided to modify the rosters to include some of the good teams of the 2000's such as the '02 Kings or the 00-03 Lakers and also teams from the Bulls Dinasty era (Jazz, Knicks, Suns). Then I threw into the mix the legends. That's why my roster is outdated. I want my Bulls to play against teams and players they played during their championship years.
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Postby FromtheBaseline on Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:51 am

hey Castro... your list is awesome... did you have to create all those players yourself? what kind of ratings did you use?
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Postby accx23 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:53 am

Basically I used the in-game legends along with Andrew's 96-Season Rosters (the patch included faces for most of the players), Andrew's last Rosters for Live'04 and also Ben's Rosters (which included the 95 Rockets, the 89 Pistos and the 87 Lakers)

About the ratings, I've tweaked them here and there, mostly updating the 03 draft class (Lebron, Melo or Wade) to more up-to-date values using Andrew's Live06 Rosters.
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Postby FromtheBaseline on Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:00 am

so theres a roster download with 1996's players for 2006? where do i find that??!!??
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Postby accx23 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:11 am

No, there is not. As I mentioned in my first post, my rosters are for Live'04. I just wanted to share it here to give some ideas for Michael Jordan's legends roster.
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Postby FromtheBaseline on Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:39 am

gotcha

How does one get a database of player ratings from Live 2004?
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Postby obi on Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:24 am

Michael Jordan wrote:
for the crash bug in dinasty mode,

it may be the money : i mean, some teams had -150M$ deficit when season starts.


Is there a way to increase the deficit for those teams except from lowering the players salary ?



sorry no idea

maybe andrew knows =)
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Postby accx23 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:35 am

FromtheBaseline wrote:gotcha

How does one get a database of player ratings from Live 2004?


If you give me your email I can send it to you. It'd be a players.dbf file which you can open with MS Access or Excel or any other database manager.

Andres
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Postby jordan23bond007 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:20 pm

ultimateplaya wrote:the only thing i dont like is dat it has like t-mac in 3 different teams and for other players has the same thing


agree with you.

to address this.
MJ please put the players in the teams where they have thier best season with.
ex. jordan pippen and rodman in the bulls, tmac in olando, vince in toronto, barkley in phoenix, walton in portland etc..
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Postby Michael Jordan on Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:32 pm

ultimateplaya wrote:
the only thing i dont like is dat it has like t-mac in 3 different teams and for other players has the same thing


agree with you.

to address this.
MJ please put the players in the teams where they have thier best season with.
ex. jordan pippen and rodman in the bulls, tmac in olando, vince in toronto, barkley in phoenix, walton in portland etc..



Does anyone else thinks the same ?
On which team will be Wilt, Jabbar, Larry Johnson, Alonzo, Divac, Jason Kidd, Chambers and more players which were very good on more than one team ?
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Postby Jugs on Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:49 pm

Jason Kidd would be the Nets because he got to the finals with them
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Postby obi on Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:18 am

i disagree with this =)
i like the idea when players can be in 2 teams like jordan in bulls and wizard, if it's really justified :p
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Postby lapis on Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:01 am

wilt = lal or phi
jabbar = lackers all the way
johnson = ny
zo = mia
divac = lal or sac
kidd = pho or nj
chambers = sea
just my opinion, also if i was you i would use some of these players to help fill out weak rosters. like if ny has a good roster but the hornets have a weak roster put johnson there.
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Postby ehlomint on Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:02 am

Hey Castro...no offense but your 'legends' roster is way off....

I looked briefly at the CAVS roster and it should have:

Brad Daugherty
Mark Price
Larry Nance
Austin Carr
Bingo Smith
Jim Chones
World B. Free

Sure there are many other teams to update...try basketballreference.com to get the all-time leaders for each team for starters

On the bright side, at least you correctly included Craig Ehlo!!!
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Postby obi on Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:54 am

hey, i was wondering if you can make the dream team '92 ?
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Postby accx23 on Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:52 am

Ehlo and Price were the only players I had ciberfaces for. My rosters are not based on the best players of all time for every team, but on the players I had available from other roster patches (I didn't create any player myself).

I'd love to include Nance, Daugherty or even G. Wilkins so that I could re-live the Bulls kicking the Cavs out of the Playoffs every single season...

If you have patches for those players for Live'04, please share...
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Postby ehlomint on Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:47 pm

Sure I have them for Live 2004, but who still plays '04????????? :shock:
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