Bogut-Watch

[spreeul8r]

Another nice game for Andrew.

14pts (6/7) 9 rebounds 1 block on route to another Bucks win.

[J@3]

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Name        Min     FG     3Pt     FT     Off     Reb     Ast     TO     Stl     Blk     PF     Pts
A. Bogut     34     6-7     0-0     2-2     3     9        2       3      0       1      4       14

And another Bucks win.

[Drex]

Nice stat-line

[Jugs]

Bogut's the bomb.

How can people hate him? It pisses me off

[SnitchDevil]

He has a big mouth. That's why i hate him.

[Avrah3]

He has a big mouth Let me guess you hate Shaq ,Kobe and every NBA player because if bogut has a big mouth the whole Nba does.

[Matt]

i think LITERALLY a big mouth, although i could be wrong. haha

[J@3]

If you check my sig out it's not really that big... his nose might be a bit big these days, after AI broke it and all.

[J@3]

[Drex]

Mavs rule that graph Bogut, that fucker has made so much last minute plays

[Fenix]

Nowitzki is a monster . Well, anyone who had seen him in the EC knew that already.

[Matt]

that list doesn't necessarily mean much, because you have to be in close games to qualify.

[cyanide]

that list doesn't necessarily mean much, because you have to be in close games to qualify.

That's a good point. I'm guessing the Mavs end up in close games more than any other team considering how the top 3 guys are Mavericks.

[J@3]

that list doesn't necessarily mean much, because you have to be in close games to qualify.

Well duh. How can clutch stats count in a blowout? If that was the case Darko would probably lead the league. The whole idea of being a clutch player is coming through when the game is close, hence not being able to qualify unless the game is close.

[shadowgrin]

Jae double-posting.

How can people hate him? It pisses me off

He has a big mouth

At least he can back up the shite he's saying not like that other 1st pick bitch, Kwame Brown.

[SnitchDevil]

Yeah, Kwame, the guy who got pushed around by Shaq right? Can you give me a link to the lakers-heat boxscore? were you able to watch that game? Stupid Bust needs to learn to defend.

[J@3]

I think Kwame's the only Laker I refuse to defend. Meow.

[SnitchDevil]

So his offense sucks. Dont worry, when Cap is done with Kwame and Bynum, im sure they'll be alright. Not Michael Olowakandi alright though.

[Matt]

sorry but one decent kwame games doesn't make him good. He'll revert to his shitty defense nxt game....GUARANTEED

[shadowgrin]

Yeah, Kwame, the guy who got pushed around by Shaq right? Can you give me a link to the lakers-heat boxscore? were you able to watch that game? Stupid Bust needs to learn to defend.

Yeah, Kwame is so goddamnfreakin' consistent! Iz di bomb yo!
He gives stupendous numbers as a starter not like that Aussie fool Bogut (who still contributes better numbers than Kwame even when he was coming off the bench).

[SnitchDevil]

sorry but one decent kwame games doesn't make him good. He'll revert to his shitty defense nxt game....GUARANTEED

Im sorry but Kwame has been playing like this ever since he came back from his injury. He even shows occasional flashes of offensive brilliance.

Yeah, Kwame is so goddamnfreakin' consistent! Iz di bomb yo!
He gives stupendous numbers as a starter not like that Aussie fool Bogut (who still contributes better numbers than Kwame even when he was coming off the bench). :Rolling Eyes:

You really need to learn more about the game of basketball. You need to start talking about things you know about. Seriously.

[shadowgrin]

You really need to learn more about the game of basketball. You need to start talking about things you know about. Seriously

Ok, I will.
First off, let us examine some parts of your all-mighty-evidence-of-Kwame's-greatness boxscore:

Shaq: 18 pts, 8 fgm, 18 fga, 6 oreb, 11 dreb, 17 rebs, 3 ast, 6 TO, 4 PF
Kwame: 2 pts, 1 fgm, 6 fga, 4 oreb, 3 dreb, 7 rebs, 1 ast, 0 TO, 2 PF

Shaq's season averages:
18.4 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.9 apg, 2.7 TO, 4 PF
WOW! Kwame limited Shaq to just 18 pts and deny Shaq 0.4 of his usual score. AMAZING.
The only "proof" of Kwame's defensive prowess was the 6 TO's that Shaq committed.
Of course Shaq was being defended by Kwame 1-on-1 and Shaq wasn't being triple/double-teamed so that 6 TO was all Kwame's fault.

Second, let's us examine the Bogut-Kwame comparison. I shall base Kwame's stats on his return from injury because of the brilliant way he's been playing.
For Bogut, I shall only use his stats the time when he came off from the bench.

Bogut's averages from Nov. 16-25
5.8 ppg, 3 rpg, 2 apg, 0.2 bpg, 0.8 spg, 46.2 FG%, 1.2 TO, 2.6 PF, 19.4 mpg

Kwame's averages from Dec. 10-25
5.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.6 bpg, 0.6 spg, 45.2 FG%, 0.9 TO, 1.8 PF, 23 mpg

Other than the rebounding "advantage" that Kwame has, their stats are almost similar. The most "convincing" proof of Kwame's ability over Bogut's is Kwame's 1.8 personal fouls per game spread over 23 minutes compared to Bogut's whopping 2.6 personal fouls in just 19.4 minutes.
But..

Bogut (who still contributes better numbers than Kwame even when he was coming off the bench

The numbers Bogut gives with his 19.4 minutes is still at par compared to the numbers that Kwame gives even with 23 minutes of play.

SnitchDevil, get your head off your ass so you could properly prove your point, and don't give me that "stats mean nothing" shite unless you could show anything concrete to defend your point and refute mine.

[SnitchDevil]

Thank you for proving my point.

Ok, I will.
First off, let us examine some parts of your all-mighty-evidence-of-Kwame's-greatness boxscore:

Shaq: 18 pts, 8 fgm, 18 fga, 6 oreb, 11 dreb, 17 rebs, 3 ast, 6 TO, 4 PF
Kwame: 2 pts, 1 fgm, 6 fga, 4 oreb, 3 dreb, 7 rebs, 1 ast, 0 TO, 2 PF

Shaq's season averages:
18.4 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.9 apg, 2.7 TO, 4 PF
WOW! Kwame limited Shaq to just 18 pts and deny Shaq 0.4 of his usual score. :Shocked: AMAZING. :Embarassed:
The only "proof" of Kwame's defensive prowess was the 6 TO's that Shaq committed.
Of course Shaq was being defended by Kwame 1-on-1 and Shaq wasn't being triple/double-teamed so that 6 TO was all Kwame's fault. :Rolling Eyes:

If you watched the game, anyone with half a brain would notice that Shaq went to work when Mihm was defending him. But then you know what your talking about right?

Second, let's us examine the Bogut-Kwame comparison. I shall base Kwame's stats on his return from injury because of the brilliant way he's been playing.
For Bogut, I shall only use his stats the time when he came off from the bench.

Bogut's averages from Nov. 16-25
5.8 ppg, 3 rpg, 2 apg, 0.2 bpg, 0.8 spg, 46.2 FG%, 1.2 TO, 2.6 PF, 19.4 mpg

Kwame's averages from Dec. 10-25
5.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.6 bpg, 0.6 spg, 45.2 FG%, 0.9 TO, 1.8 PF, 23 mpg

Other than the rebounding "advantage" that Kwame has, their stats are almost similar. The most "convincing" proof of Kwame's ability over Bogut's is Kwame's 1.8 personal fouls per game spread over 23 minutes compared to Bogut's whopping 2.6 personal fouls in just 19.4 minutes.

Jesus Christ Kid. I was talking about his defense.

The numbers Bogut gives with his 19.4 minutes is still at par compared to the numbers that Kwame gives even with 23 minutes of play.

All that effort and i still dont understand why you'd compare Andrew Bogut to GULP Kwame Brown.
Bogut is getting recognition everywhere, and Kwame has always been labeled a bust. Only an idiot would compare the #1 pick out of high school to the #1 pick with more thatn enough college experience.

SnitchDevil, get your head off your ass so you could properly prove your point, and don't give me that "stats mean nothing" shite unless you could show anything concrete to defend your point and refute mine.

Shadowwhatever thanks for proving my point that you dont know what you're talking about. Aside from googling up stats, what else do you know about?

[Jackal]

What I find more saddening is that you're trying to convince us Kwame can defend Shaq.

[SnitchDevil]

If you were able to watch the game, you wont need convincing.