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Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:04 am
I'm a HUGE Wizards, and I don't know how many of you follow them but their lineup and subsitutions are as random as the lottery. Eddie Jordan is a terrific coach, and this is not to bash him, but he seems to have no idea how to play his new found depth. Maybe he's reading this as you are, so vote on a lineup and tell why. If you have another lineup please throw it in
Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:27 am
Where's Chucky

?
Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:32 am
I starting to seriously doubt that pickup
Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:36 am
I voted the first one, mainly because of Antonio Daniels starting and Butler being on the bench. To me CB is a great player to have as your go-to-guy of the second unit.
tsbarbee2002 wrote:I'm a HUGE Wizards
Care to post a pic?
Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:42 am
I confess, i haven't mastered proofreading
I kind of agree with your lineup, but its tempting to see how fast the Wizards could jump out in the beginning of the game with Arenas and Butler
Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:47 am
I'll vote none of the above:
Daniels, Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Haywood
Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:52 am
Why?
Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:18 am
I like the last one, Ethan Thomas would be a nice addition to the starting five. Plus, I prefer AJ playing SF.
Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:34 am
bigh0rt wrote:I'll vote none of the above:
Daniels, Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Haywood
Ditto... it's the strongest combination, but chemistry-wise, I wouldn't know because I don't follow the Wizards.
Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:55 am
Jamison at PF is a big no-no, in my opinion.
Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:21 am
I liked the last one with Etan Thomas. Everytime I see him play, he owns the boards.
Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:10 am
Voted for Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Etan Thomas, Haywood
Looks like a good line-up, but honestly.. I don't know because I don't follow the Wizards.
Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:37 pm
Arenas, Jarvis Hayes, Jamison, Jeffries, Haywood
I like that one simply because it's got Jarvis Hayes in it.
Anyway, the last one seems like a lineup that would definitely kill any team on the boards, but they'd lack some size off their bench.
Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:48 pm
but they'd lack some size off their bench.
They have Peter John Ramos
Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:06 am
can you imagine what wizards had in 02-03
pg-jordan
sg-hughes
sf-stackhouse
pf-etan thomas
c-haywood
bench
simmons
dixon
too bad they didnt have a good coach
Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:22 am
I voted for the third cause I really like Hayes and his defense. Butler could be a great sub, covering both SG and SF. But It's pretty close at PF, I couldn't decide myself. Maybe Jeffries plays more confident when starting, otherwize I'd pick Thomas.
So I'd go for
Arenas, Hayes, Jamison, Thomas, Haywood
Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:22 am
How about we find you a Wizards line up and you find us a Knicks lineup.
Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:26 am
Arenas has to start playing more of a point guard role than scoring shooting guard, I still think he has ways to go before he should be regarded as a top 5 point guard cause right now he's still a shooting guard with good passing skill but he lacks true PG IQ and thats hurting the Wizards and it will hurt them in the long run.
As for the lineup Id have to go with Arenas - Butler - Jenna Jameson - Jefferies - Hardwood.
Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:49 am
That's one busty lineup.
NBA broadcasts and video games would be X-rated...
Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:13 am
[Bill Walton] Throw it down big man, throw it down! [/Bill Walton]
Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:16 am
Jenna Jameson - Jefferies - Hardwood
I think those two always go together in the game. It's like a duo.
Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:10 pm
Stevesanity has the best lineup based on effective point production (over average player) per 40 minutes...(last year...difference from last year)
Arenas: +6.9 (+5.9...+1.0)
Butler: +4.0 (+0.4...+3.6)
Jeffries: -0.5 (-1.9...+1.4)
Jamison: +4.4 (+1.6...+2.8)
Haywood: +0.7 (+0.3...+0.4)
Hayes: -1.8 (-2.8...+1.0)
Thomas: -2.1 (-3.9...-1.8)
Atkins: -3.1 (-1.1...-2.0)
Ruffin: -6.4 (-6.6...+0.2)
Daniels: -6.7 (+3.1...-9.8)
Daniels has been one of the biggest FA busts...and I have no idea why he's doing everything worse...shooting percentage has fallen from 56% to 43%...turnover rate from 6.8 to 11.4...usage rate from 22.2 to 12.9...rebound rate from 5.1 to 3.1...PER from 18.08 to 7.87...he's almost 10 effective points worse than last season per 40 minutes and six and a half points per game (was +2.1 per game, now -4.3 per game)...
Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:20 pm
To appreciate Daniels, you gotta watch the games. Daniels sets up the offense whereas Arenas would just fly off to the bucket and take a pretty bad shot. Daniels sets up other players very well and makes smart plays.
Definitely not a bust, he wasn't brought in to score, he was brought in because of his high basketball IQ. He's a VERY smart basketball player
Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:57 am
Well, the last two years Daniels was fantastic but this year he's been terrible. Perhaps he does set up the other players (leads the team in assist ratio...but not assist %) well, but he's still shooting 43% overall and 33% from the floor. 45% of his possessions lead to zero points. Only Ruffin (46%) has more wasted possessions.
He's a bust to me and probably everyone else because we expected to come in and play like a top 15 (or higher) point guard again and instead he's been the worst point guard in the league to see major minutes. (Kevin Ollie, Jason Hart and Orien Greene don't even see half as many minutes...Hart's another FA bust thus far...for much of the same reasons massive shooting% drop, and big increase in turnovers...)
Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:41 am
Maybe its just me, but its hard to label someone a bust 10 games into the season. Give him a little more time.
Also its kind of hard for Daniels to get into the flow of the game when he has NO idea how the rotation is going. I mean, one game he's starting then another he plays waterboy. WTF
Its frustrating not knowing who's going to step in and contribute with Arenas and Jamison
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