Paul Pierce: Kobe has nothing on me!

Kobe had Payton too (not in a sexual way, I guess)

wait wait, r u serious? Pierce isnt better than Vince? LMFAO! Vince Carter NEEDs a PG to help him

and what superstar PG did he have in Toronto when he was leading them to play-off appearances? Oh yeah, Alvin Williams!!

Who did Pierce have??!!

Gary Payton

No no 2 years ago or whatever. And plus Payton isnt a superstar PG not even an allstar PG. Him and Pierce were having problems for a while, and Payton was really playing the Point Guard Role.

Also Rafer Alston was the Point Guard. Hes a better passer than Payton nowadays.

I personally think Pierce doesn't play as well without another star player on the team. He hasn't really played well whenever Antoine Walker was traded.

that tends to happen when the team goes into a rebuilding stage

Miami had that 300 pound monster last year and didn't win. Kobe is still better than Pierce and I don't think Pierce would've won 3 rings with Shaq.

LOL but look the Lakers got in the lottery.

I think Pirce is a better leader, and almost a better player look at this

PLAYERFG% 3P% FT%
BRYANT 433 .339 .816
PIERCE 455 .370 .822

Kobe last year averaged 20 shots PER GAME
Pierce last year averaged 15 shots PER GAME

Kobe averaged 5.9 rebounds per game
Paul averaged 6.6 rebounds per game

Kobe averaged 1.3 steals per game
Pierce averaged 1.6 steals per game

Kobe averaged 0.8 Blocks per game
Pierce averaged 0.5 Blocks per game

Kobe averaged 4 Turnovers per game
Pierce averaved 2.8 turnovers per game

Kobe averaged 27.6 points per game
Pierce averaged 21.6 points per game

you left out assists (I guess you didnt do that on purpose.)
Kobe- 6.0
Paul- 4.2

and you also indicated that Kobe takes 20 shots while Paul only takes 15. Well, considering that Kobe averages 6 points more he seems to be making use of those shots (He would have to hit 3 out of those 5 which is a good percentage).

and dont forget effeciency
kobe-24.32
pierce-22.10


Plus kobe played some of his games with a sprained ankle. That tells you that if kobe played all his games like pierce did, he would get a MUCH higher efficiency.

wait wait, r u serious? Pierce isnt better than Vince? LMFAO! Vince Carter NEEDs a PG to help him

and what superstar PG did he have in Toronto when he was leading them to play-off appearances? Oh yeah, Alvin Williams!!

Who did Pierce have??!!

What fucking difference does it make you idiot? Your point was that Vince NEEDS a PG to help him, and the best PG he'd had at Toronto was Alvin Williams. The PG's Pierce had is completely irrelevant. As far as your question, Pierce had Kenny Anderson.

Ur an idiot, Kenny Anderson isnt a true point guard. Fucking tard

Kobe had Payton too (not in a sexual way, I guess)

Too bad we're talking about Paul Pierce and Vince Carter.

Kobe got better ball handling, and more athletic
Pierce is a better leader, hes playing with a young team.. his team won more than the lakers..

Kobe is probally the best 1 on 1 player in the league..
Pierce I think is better at defending bigger guards/small forwards.. Kobe can guard quick PG's and Pierce can't do that.

Kobe's shot seems better.. evident in his free throws. Pierce is a good shooter but hes very streak.. ya hes got a better percentage.. but he didn't need take as many shots last year..

Pierce's best year is probally better than Kobe's stats wise..
Kobe
02-03 LAL 82 82 41.5 .451 .383 .843 1.3 5.6 6.9 5.9 2.21 .82 3.51 2.70 30.0
Pierce
01-02 BOS 82 82 40.3 .442 .404 .809 1.0 5.9 6.9 3.2 1.88 1.05 2.94 2.90 26.1

both extremely durable .. both shot high percentage KB 45% > PP 44%..
Kobe is better.. but i like Pierce more b/c well every1 talks about Kobe..

Its true.. Kobe has nothing on Pierce.not like they are even rivals.. they never played 1 on 1. they never had big matchups..

I think Mcgrady is better than Kobe.. Pierce is more of a bigger guard.. similar to Artest, VC, Lebron

Kobe is like da faster type, like Mcgrady, Allen, Redd, Wade

Ur an idiot, Kenny Anderson isnt a true point guard. Fucking tard

What the hell who says anything about him being a true point guard you spastic, he's a point guard and that's all that matters. Go on Einstein, win the argument properly. You pull some bullshit opinion out of your ass and then go on like this when you're beaten, fuck off idiot you've got nothing.

Kobe got better ball handling, and more athletic
Pierce is a better leader, hes playing with a young team.. his team won more than the lakers..

Kobe is probally the best 1 on 1 player in the league..
Pierce I think is better at defending bigger guards/small forwards.. Kobe can guard quick PG's and Pierce can't do that.

Kobe's shot seems better.. evident in his free throws. Pierce is a good shooter but hes very streak.. ya hes got a better percentage.. but he didn't need take as many shots last year..

Pierce's best year is probally better than Kobe's stats wise..
Kobe
02-03 LAL 82 82 41.5 .451 .383 .843 1.3 5.6 6.9 5.9 2.21 .82 3.51 2.70 30.0
Pierce
01-02 BOS 82 82 40.3 .442 .404 .809 1.0 5.9 6.9 3.2 1.88 1.05 2.94 2.90 26.1

both extremely durable .. both shot high percentage KB 45% > PP 44%..
Kobe is better.. but i like Pierce more b/c well every1 talks about Kobe..

Its true.. Kobe has nothing on Pierce.not like they are even rivals.. they never played 1 on 1. they never had big matchups..

I think Mcgrady is better than Kobe.. Pierce is more of a bigger guard.. similar to Artest, VC, Lebron

Kobe is like da faster type, like Mcgrady, Allen, Redd, Wade

I agree

Pierce was on drugs when he said this. if he's not then he's just a moron

Pierce was on drugs when he said this. if he's not then he's just a moron

Yeh ok, i think ur on drugs

Pierce was on drugs when he said this. if he's not then he's just a moron

Yeh ok, i think ur on drugs

Man let`s just see when Lakers play with Boston.Then you can get you`re answer.
I`m a Kobe fan but i don`t say anything before i see it with my own eyes.
So let`s wait..

Pierce was on drugs when he said this. if he's not then he's just a moron

Yeh ok, i think ur on drugs

I think your parents were on drugs when you were conceived. It's the only logical explanation.

Pierce was on drugs when he said this. if he's not then he's just a moron

Yeh ok, i think ur on drugs

I think your parents were on drugs when you were conceived. It's the only logical explanation.

Yea ur ool bring my parents in the conversation,and yea my dad is dead fucking asshole

Your dad being dead now has nothing to do with the time when you were conceived.

I can't wait to watch them play.. but seriously Pierce is more of a power player with a jumpshot.. Kobe is a quick guard with power.. much more athletic and better guard skills..

Pierce was on drugs when he said this. if he's not then he's just a moron

Yeh ok, i think ur on drugs

I think your parents were on drugs when you were conceived. It's the only logical explanation.

Yea ur ool bring my parents in the conversation,and yea my dad is dead fucking asshole

I'm ool?

Too bad we're talking about Paul Pierce and Vince Carter.

Well, the topic is about Kobe and Pierce, so I'm still on-topic

Too bad we're talking about Paul Pierce and Vince Carter.

Well, the topic is about Kobe and Pierce, so I'm still on-topic

This is NLSC, we never stay on topic for more than a page.

Pierce's cofidence has always been higher than his talent. The dude should learn to stfu.

First off, some of you who think this is a huge longshot are stupid. Kobe scored more points per game, yes we all know this. He also took 5 more shots a game and turned the ball over like a whore.

Pierce is a far more efficient player offensivly, he's learned when to shoot and when to pass. All of you would really rather have 27 points on 20 shots than 22 on 15? you can let pretty much anyone on the team take those 5 extra shots and you'll end up with 5 more points. Pierce is also a superior rebounder, and he doesnt turn the ball over like kobe does, though that's also because he doesn't touch the ball as much as kobe does.

So...
Pierce is a more efficient scorer
Pierce is a superior rebounder

My only real arguement is that if pierce was given the same kind of attention offensivly and was allowed to take 20 shots a game and totally dominate the ball, he'd produce very similar stats to kobe.

Now of course, Pierce is a turd on defense half the time, whereas kobe is generally one of the better defenders at his position, which is why i'd give kobe the overall edge. However don't start throwing out ppg and acting like it's the only thing that matters. 22 on 15 shots is every bit as good as 27 on 20 shots, seing how the league average is about 1 point per shot attempt.

Too bad we're talking about Paul Pierce and Vince Carter.

Well, the topic is about Kobe and Pierce, so I'm still on-topic

This is NLSC, we never stay on topic for more than a page.

lol true. it's ok IMO as long as it remains a discussion instead of a flame war

Pierce's cofidence has always been higher than his talent. The dude should learn to stfu.

i think players should have this attitude, have high expectations for themselves. it's not like pierce tries do things that's not part of his game anyway.

btw pierce's fg% has been awesome for a high volume shooter...

....what?

Well to each their own, BUT if you're going to argue that Kobe > Pierce, then you have to agree that Iverson is better than Kobe, because AI has the same weaknesses in his game but got better results:

AI: 30.7 ppg 4.59 TOs 42.4% FG 7.9 APG
Kobe: 27.6 ppg 4.09 TOs 43.3% FG 6.0 APG