GM Survey 2005: guess who dominates the NBA

[Null17]

Duncan IS A BASKETBALL PLAYER, he doesn't need to do windmill/under the legs/behind the back or other shit to be a great player! He is a traditional basketball player, he doesn't do what a b-ball player does nowadays, he doesn't wear baggy clothes or chains, he doesn't listen hip-hop music, but HE IS A GREAT PLAYER

He actually does wear baggy clothes. Just not hiphop baggy.

Some people here are blowing the argument out of proportion

[Matt]

saying Duncan is a better winner is just retarded if that's your decision of who's better.

Take a look at the personell around each player year in and year out. Every single year Spurs have a better all round team. GM's have as much to do with success as the players.

[J@3]

Tim Duncan's a moron, I wish the NBA had FIBA referee's then you'd see exactly how great his "fundamentals" are.

OMG FIBA SUX DEY CALL FOULZ ON ME

[Cloudy]

Why the fuck is Duckan on every list..Damn it..
Not a single Kobe Bryant. HATERS!!

[j.23]

2. If you were starting a franchise today and could sign any player in the NBA, who would it be?
Tim Duncan 40%
LeBron James 36%
Shaquille O'Neal 8%
Amare Stoudemire 8%

as a franchise (TODAY), i don't understand why they would sign shaq (who is on the decline) opposed to someone like kevin garnett. shaq is unstoppable and all, but he's approaching 35.. how many more years can he give you? then we have kevin garnett, who gives you everything - scoring, rebounding, passing and defense. in addition the guy is consistent as hell, meaning if he goes 9-12 from the free throw one night, he'll probably go 9-12 the next night unlike shaq who can go 10-14 and then 4-11. don't misinterpret what i said, i know a lot of you understand shaq's capabilities and i do too but if we were to start a franchise TODAY kevin garnett should be right up there.

[Stevesanity]

Elton Brand owns all!

[Null17]

2. If you were starting a franchise today and could sign any player in the NBA, who would it be?
Tim Duncan 40%
LeBron James 36%
Shaquille O'Neal 8%
Amare Stoudemire 8%

as a franchise (TODAY), i don't understand why they would sign shaq (who is on the decline) opposed to someone like kevin garnett. shaq is unstoppable and all, but he's approaching 35.. how many more years can he give you? then we have kevin garnett, who gives you everything - scoring, rebounding, passing and defense. in addition the guy is consistent as hell, meaning if he goes 9-12 from the free throw one night, he'll probably go 9-12 the next night unlike shaq who can go 10-14 and then 4-11. don't misinterpret what i said, i know a lot of you understand shaq's capabilities and i do too but if we were to start a franchise TODAY kevin garnett should be right up there.

Totally agree. He should be on the top 3 at least

[Joe']

Garnett wanted to go to college but they said he didn't have the grades. He was upset but after he declared for the draft he found out he had the grades to make it. He was pretty pissed but he had to stay in the draft.

K, I didn't know this....

[Heiks]

Well this survey surely makes it look like most of the GMs are morons.

KG is surely one of the best all-around players ever played the game and just 1 or 2 GMs would like to build a dynasty around him. I would have never belived that anybody would say it but I guess I have to: KG is underrated (despite the stats he's putting up).

[putodelagoa]

The difference between Duncan and Garnett is primacy. You can win with Duncan as a focal point in offense.
When all is said and done, Garnett will be remembered as the best second fiddle player to ever play the game. I don't see him winning as "the Man", give him a situation where he could be a nr 2 option (Kobe, Mc Grady, Wade), and you have a title.

[maes]

1) Best player in the world according to you. Tim Duncan is the MVP of the "World" Champions. (Still uncertain as to why they call it that, but still.)

Can't say American champions because of Toronto and previously Vancouver.

I do think that soon enough, the NBA champs need to play other League champs for the real world championships.

[Amphatoast]

best baseball players aren't americans yet it's still called the "World Series"
you damn right those teams in the domincan republic and japan have a chance.

[cyanide]

1. Which team will win NBA Finals 2006?
San Antonio 77%
Miami 15%
Others receiving votes: Detroit, Minnesota

Wtf, Minnesota?

Riot, the reason why you think Garnett's the best player on the planet is because you only watch the T-Wolves for 82 games a season

[j.23]

20, 10, 5, 1.5 steals, 2 blocks for the last 6 seasons
first team all-nba (except last year only because his team didn't make the playoffs)
first team all-nba defense
perennial all star

if that's not greatness i don't know what is.

[Jackal]

It's greatness, don't get me wrong. But until he starts winning & soon, I don't think folks will place him above Duncan.

[Sac-1]

Well ofcourse Duncan wins Championships WITH the help of two or three other superstars but look at Garnetts team it sucks dick and he is the only superstar on his team and he still managed to get it more than 30 wins.
So Duncan would have never ever won the championship this year if San Antonio didn't have Parker and Ginobili or Horry.

Didn't i already tell you why Duncan is winning and KG is not.

[shadowgrin]

Read the article people.

2. If you were starting a franchise today and could sign any player in the NBA, who would it be?
Tim Duncan 40%
LeBron James 36%
Shaquille O'Neal 8%
Amare Stoudemire 8%
Others receiving votes: Kevin Garnett, Dwyane Wade

Garnett did receive a vote. If you add up the percentages, KG and Wade have 4% or 1 GM voted for them each. Shaq and Amare had 2 GM's. James had 9 GM's and TD 10 GM's. It's not a big deal if Shaq has a higher vote percentage than KG, Shaq is only up by 1 vote. The other 5 GM's that didn't respond could have voted either way.
(I read somehwere on NBA.com that only 25 out of 30 GM's responded. If memory serves me right.)

1. Who will win the 2005-06 MVP?
Tim Duncan 58%
Shaquille O'Neal 17%
Others receiving votes: Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, Jermaine O'Neal, Amare Stoudemire, Dwyane Wade

3. Which player forces opposing coaches to make the most adjustments?
Shaquille O'Neal 64%
Tim Duncan 16%
Allen Iverson 8%
Others receiving votes: Earl Boykins, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett

KG wasn't ignored by the GM's completely. Don't be fooled those voting percentages. Of course some GM's are morons.
Look at Boykins making the list.

[Null17]

That makes a little more sense. He should've gotten more votes on the franchise thingie though. More like Top 3 as I've said.

Earl Boykins forces opposing coaches to make the most adjustments?

[air gordon]

attending actual nba games > internet cool guy

garnett should have gotten more mvp votes last year: if any of you have "insider" access to espn's site, you should check John Hollinger's on this:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/ ... atsId=3007

saying Duncan is a better winner is just retarded if that's your decision of who's better.

Take a look at the personell around each player year in and year out. Every single year Spurs have a better all round team. GM's have as much to do with success as the players.

in 2003, that spurs roster was crap + duncan

no admiral arguments please- robinson's back was just about to break that year

no one knew who stephen jackson and ginobili were then

parker was just in his 2nd year

duncan carried that team but let's not forget some gutsy, clutch shooting by kerr and jackson

[Null17]

attending actual nba games > internet cool guy

huh?

[Matt]

in 2003, that spurs roster was crap + duncan

no admiral arguments please- robinson's back was just about to break that year

no one knew who stephen jackson and ginobili were then

parker was just in his 2nd year

duncan carried that team but let's not forget some gutsy, clutch shooting by kerr and jackson

yeah, but that team was top to bottom better than Minnesota.

[Metsis]

Ginobili and Parker are the reasons why Spurs are winning the titles... They have progressed (especially Ginobili) their game so they can actually win. KG never has had team mates that actually are eager the get the ball to him. Now they have so look out for Garnett to do more of everything and get his team to an even better standing.

KG is better than Duncan... Duncan has better help...

If you would switch Duncan and Garnett from one team to another, the results would most likely be along the same lines they are now... Two excellent post players that command defensive double-teams and clear room for the slashers...

But to tell you the truth... Right now, the MAN I'd want to build around would be LBJ... No one even comes close... He can do it all and is barely 20 years old... He's got a good 15 years ahead of him in the league and the potential is unmatched by anyone ever to have played the league... Another guy right now, would be Amare, but he busted his knee, so that leaves too much uncertainties right now. Duncan, Shaq, Garnett, Kobe, T-Mac etc. are so much older than James, that they don't stand a chance in this contest. And James still has lots of time to improve his game...

[Sac-1]

Ginobili and Parker are the reasons why Spurs are winning the titles... They have progressed (especially Ginobili) their game so they can actually win. KG never has had team mates that actually are eager the get the ball to him. Now they have so look out for Garnett to do more of everything and get his team to an even better standing.

KG is better than Duncan... Duncan has better help...

If you would switch Duncan and Garnett from one team to another, the results would most likely be along the same lines they are now... Two excellent post players that command defensive double-teams and clear room for the slashers...

But to tell you the truth... Right now, the MAN I'd want to build around would be LBJ... No one even comes close... He can do it all and is barely 20 years old... He's got a good 15 years ahead of him in the league and the potential is unmatched by anyone ever to have played the league... Another guy right now, would be Amare, but he busted his knee, so that leaves too much uncertainties right now. Duncan, Shaq, Garnett, Kobe, T-Mac etc. are so much older than James, that they don't stand a chance in this contest. And James still has lots of time to improve his game...

Thats what i've been saying the whole time!
(read my last post before this one)

[Riot]

Look at the 2002-03 season. Timberwolves got the 4th seed in the Western Conference, led by Kevin Garnett. Wally Szczerbiak was our second best player, he missed over 30 games that year due to injury.

Starting line-up without Wally-
C-Rasho Nesterovic
PF-Kevin Garnett
SF-Kendall Gill
SG-Anthony Peeler
PG-Troy Hudson

For 30+ games Garnett had to deal with that line-up. Don't tell me that Duncan had equal talent compared to Garnett. And even if you add Wally and replace Gill it still isn't a very good line-up.

Garnett made Rasho look semi-decent in Minnesota. Now on the Spurs Rasho is buried on the bench.

[Jackal]

attending actual nba games > internet cool guy

If it were upto you, anyone outside the US wouldn't even be allowed to watch NBA games, let alone be fans or attend. Dumbass.

Secondly, thanks for the cool guy comment.