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Oh No He Didn't (Pacers' Jackson calls Dress Code 'racist')

Postby Colin on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:08 pm

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INDIANAPOLIS -- Indiana Pacers guard Stephen Jackson, contending that a league ban on chains worn over clothing is "a racist statement" from the league, wore every long, diamond-studded chain in his collection Tuesday night as a protest.

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Stephen Jackson, pictured during the NBA playoffs in May, says he doesn't plan on challenging the new dress code.


Jackson voiced no opposition to the bulk of the "business casual" demands in the NBA's new dress code, but he described the jewelry ban as "attacking young black males."

"I think it's a racist statement because a lot of the guys who are wearing chains are my age and are black," said Jackson, 27. "I wore all my jewelry today to let it be known that I'm upset with it.

"I'll wear a suit every day. I think we do need to look more professional because it is a business. A lot of guys have gotten sloppy with the way they dress. But it's one thing to [enforce a] dress code and it's another thing if you're attacking cultures, and that's what I think they're doing."


Well then. I'm glad he agrees with the suit part, I also think that pants, a shirt, and a jacket is fine. I figure wearing a smaller chain is fine, but I definitely wouldn't go so far as to call it racist. People that play the race card definitely drop a few levels in my books.
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Postby Matt on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:14 pm

"I think it's a racist statement because a lot of the guys who are wearing chains are my age and are black,"


Boo hoo, David Stern is trying to clean the league up. he's trying to make his players look professional AT WORK. He has every right to do so. Suck it up and stick to the rules.
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Postby Matthew on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:16 pm

I'm not a fan of the race card being played either, but to a lesser extent, i can agree with what he is saying. or at least see where he is comming from.

alot of the nba's sponsers are white. alot of the players are black. to look.. hmm, more appealing ( ?) the nba is trying to make these players look like better people by dressing in a way that will encourage more sponsers. in other words, they dont want the players to dress more "white", but less "black". thats how i interpret it anyway.
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Postby Fresh8 on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:17 pm

I wouldn't go as far as to call it racist... You don't see lawyers and doctors wearing chains...
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Postby Matthew on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:18 pm

But Matt, this is after the league has been associated with hip hop since the 2000 season? Now suddenly its not good business to be labelled with that? It's a bit sudden. But as long as its restricted to press conferences and whilst sitting on the bench i have no problem with it.
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Postby Matthew on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:22 pm

well i didnt bother to read the link :crazy:.
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Postby Colin on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:22 pm

I'm assuming it still covers to and from the stadium. I thought that was mentioned. :?

I can understand not letting them wear it for the bench or a press conference, but to and from the game they should be able to do their bling thing.
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Postby Matthew on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:23 pm

Did you just delete your post and make a new one colin? :lol:
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Postby Colin on Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:36 pm

Matthew wrote:Did you just delete your post and make a new one colin? :lol:

I hit the delete button instead of edit to add that last sentence and figured I might as well. Then you went and read mine and posted a reply within 30 seconds of me posting...

Stalker.

You just ruined my day.
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Postby Matt on Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:11 pm

I'm not questioning sterns decision. With bad press lately he just might want to have the players look professional, and he has every right to do so.

why must the players complain? i can understand that wearing business wear on a plane is unreasonable, but at games, i think they can put up with it.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:13 pm

Would it really hurt him to not wear the chain :roll: players complain about basically everything, someone should muzzle them. You're getting paid around $7 million dollars A YEAR... do you even comprehend how much money that is? Stephen Jackson makes more money in 1/2 a year then most people would make in their entire lifetime, and he makes it for playing the sport he loves and succeeds at and he's complaining about this? Fuck off and die.
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Postby Riot on Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:25 pm

How is it racist? In the dress code does it say blacks can't wear fubu and chains but whites can? I don't think so. Whites have to follow the same rules as blacks. Therefore, it really can't be racist unless they are stupid and want to throw the race card around like it's nothing.

Seriously, people who pull the race card are stooges.
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Postby cklitsie on Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:44 pm

I kind of agree with Jackson on this, white players don't wear chains so it's only a rule for the black players more or less. It's kind of stupid though how they always play the racist card.
What amazes me though is that none of the Pacers guys understands that they don't have a whole lot of credit anymore to say anything in the press like this...
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Postby Matthew on Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:07 pm

Riot wrote:How is it racist? In the dress code does it say blacks can't wear fubu and chains but whites can? I don't think so. Whites have to follow the same rules as blacks. Therefore, it really can't be racist unless they are stupid and want to throw the race card around like it's nothing.

Seriously, people who pull the race card are stooges.

I dont think it is racist, but it is targeting more blacks than whites in my honest opinion. but i still cant figure out if it will significantly benifit the league, or is it just to create more hype?
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Postby Fenix on Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:48 pm

cklitsie wrote:I kind of agree with Jackson on this, white players don't wear chains so it's only a rule for the black players more or less.
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In fact, some of the whites do wear them, but that's not the point. I mean, hip hop is not exclusively a black thing anymore. In the eyes of this new rule it represents a type of wear which is suitable for wearing in your spare time, not when your doing your job, which playing professional basketball certainly is. Would you sue your boss if you were black and he demanded you to wear a suit?
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Postby boconcio on Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:52 pm

Well, to me Stephen Jackson is being racist telling that jewerly is a black people thing. Is he stupid or what? they are prohibiting jewerly, not black people jewerly, this just doesn't make sense. Doesn't matter black guys wear it more than white, Jackson made a racist remark there...
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Postby Patrick Ewing #33 on Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:03 pm

Riot wrote:How is it racist? In the dress code does it say blacks can't wear fubu and chains but whites can? I don't think so. Whites have to follow the same rules as blacks. Therefore, it really can't be racist unless they are stupid and want to throw the race card around like it's nothing.

Seriously, people who pull the race card are stooges.


What I get from that is with the exception of Jason Williams on the heat not many white guys wear chains and stuff that play in the league. So the rule doesnt really effect them.
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Postby Nel on Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:23 pm

I dont get this dress code thingy. If you watch a basketball game your focus is on the game itself not on the ones sitting on the bench. Heck i get to see one nba game everyday on tv and i hardly notice the clothes of players that aint playing. I think david stern doesnt realize the nba is for the youth, mlb is for the old ones and the nfl is in between.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:46 pm

You're talking about watching it on TV... when you're at the arena watching a game live, you do tend to look for players sitting in the crowd and whatever. It's just a general thing to make the whole league look more presentable, and I mean, having to wear a suit for 2 hours every few days instead of your usual "look at me I'm a gangsta" shit isn't really hurting anybody.
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Postby The X on Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:54 pm

I figure if I have to wear a suit everyday, then these guys can't complain about wearing casual business attire....damn, I'd luv it if I only had to wear casual business attire....I don't think work would appreciate it if I came in all decked out in bling, bling....if the NBA players don't like it, then they can go play in Estonia....
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Postby shadowgrin on Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:56 pm

Heck i get to see one nba game everyday on tv and i hardly notice the clothes of players that aint playing

But the people that go to the stadium and watch the games do notice them.
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Postby Matt on Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:50 am

but it is targeting more blacks than whites in my honest opinion


well the black players are the majority in the NBA.
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Postby Colin on Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:47 am

Fuel wrote: I think david stern doesnt realize the nba is for the youth, mlb is for the old ones and the nfl is in between.


That doesn't make any sense.
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Postby Little_Big_Man on Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:54 am

My question is this. How will this affect player endorsements. The players tend to wear warmups, t-shirts, hats and/or headbands with their endorser's logos, etc. during conferences and other basketball related activities. This kinda restricts where and when the players can wear their branded memorabilia to get publicity for the respected companies. I wonder how this will play into that.
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Postby cyanide on Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:31 am

I'd love to see some player dress up in a suit and wear a bandana on his head to retain his blackness. Seriously, wearing jewelry over a suit looks like a joke, and the rules doesn't say that they can't wear it under their clothes, so that's a ridiculous statement to make, calling it racist. Visible chains go with ghetto clothes, not with a suit.
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