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Raptors be any good this season?

Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:26 am

For you Raptor faithfuls, did you think that babcock did the right choice by picking Charlie v and joey graham? And with the newly signed marshall at cleveland, will Bonner be expecting a promotion? :D And weren't we supposed to get the even better Sean May from Duke, but we opted to get them two instead? But I also heard that May is going through surgery and won't make it to the start of the season? (Sorry, i just read the headlines rather quickly, the ticker of my fav sports channel wouldn't play it again)

Let's pray for a #7 this year in their conference shall we :twisted:
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Postby DaMVP on Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:31 am

they could have gotten Green as they did want another VC and they had Bosh already and granger was left too.... :lol: joey graham was a good pick in my opinion.but i hate the Raps' :lol: (N)
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Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:35 am

boo :evil:

i've never seen any of their picks play and who's this other back up for alston? I thought alvin was already recovered from his injury and would be able to play again? If alvin is fine, then i think he could be a sub for both jalen and mo pete easily
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Postby BOSS on Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:21 am

Damn, we have alot of Raptors fans in this forum. Well the Raptors will be a team too watch cause of there youth. Chris Bosh is the New Star now. It was a good choice picking up Villanueva. With that pick, He can now do the role Marshall had last year as well as Graham. Both are mature players and can really play the game. Sean May isn't from Duke man, he is from NC. He already had surgery and will miss the pre-season games and a few games when the season starts. We are still in that rebuilding process and it will be very very difficult for us to even get that 8th place cause the East got more stronger. IMO If Mo Peterson does good, the Raptors will be good. Hopefully they're won't be anymore feuding this year and no one will complain. Here is the roster so far.

C : Araujo - Villanueva - Woods
PF: Bosh - Bonner - Williams
SF: Rose - Graham - Williams
SG: Peterson - Williams
PG: Alston - Calderon

All we need now is a backup SG to help Mo out. We can only offer the minimum to a player but if we don't get Jay Williams we can always try going for other players like Dajuan Wagner and etc. I know he is injury prone but he can still play. I remember how well he did in his rookie year then after that it went down due to not enough playing time and injury plague. He will be getting his minutes worth joining the raps and will start fresh with his career.
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Postby Abctest123 on Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:35 am

personally, i think villanueva wont be as a direct backup to araujo, maybe for like 5 mins a game he might be, but deffinitely not as a direct backup. I think Bosh is probably playing 50/50 with pf and c, last year he played probably around 70% pf and the rest centre, but this year, i think hes gonna have his playing time split through the middle between the two positions. (not to mention hes now bulked up even more, being able to take more of a beating when playing centre)
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Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:04 am

Araujo is center?? And oh yeah my bad about sean may...same team colors though :D

i was thinking that bosh would be center then bonner would be PF and all the rest the same. And we still have both Aaron and eric williams? wow thought we would have gotten rid of them a long time ago
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Postby BOSS on Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:08 am

Jan Shane wrote:Araujo is center?? And oh yeah my bad about sean may...same team colors though :D

i was thinking that bosh would be center then bonner would be PF and all the rest the same. And we still have both Aaron and eric williams? wow thought we would have gotten rid of them a long time ago


Naw man, i don't want to see Matt Bonner starting. Baby blue and Blue arent the same colors ne ways :wink: . Let Bosh stay at his regular position.
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Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:12 am

Why not bonner? he produced a hell of a lot more than araujo did, and I saw Bosh play center a lot more than PF last year. And yes baby blue and blue aren't the same...if you really want to be technical :lol: :o
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Postby BOSS on Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:16 am

Jan Shane wrote:Why not bonner? he produced a hell of a lot more than araujo did, and I saw Bosh play center a lot more than PF last year. And yes baby blue and blue aren't the same...if you really want to be technical :lol: :o


Well I rather have Bosh at his primary position. Araujo just needs alot of adapting too. Bonner will always be a bench player and he is good for that. Have you watched the Raptors by any chance ? What they did was start Araujo for a few minutes then bring in Marshall as the C. Then they kept on going with that process. Instead of Marshall it will be Villanueva.
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Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:27 am

Yes, I watch about 60 raptor games a season...so i guess you can say that :mrgreen:

And they started araujo after the all star break, as the raptors felt he was still too "raw" during the early stages of the season. From waht I remember, araujo didn't even get to step in the court after some games during the season, and he would usually be only a sub and would play for a few minutes, not because he didn't play well...he just got into foul trouble real fast :x
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Re: Raptors be any good this season?

Postby Its_asdf on Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:48 am

Jan Shane wrote:For you Raptor faithfuls, did you think that babcock did the right choice by picking Charlie v and joey graham? And with the newly signed marshall at cleveland, will Bonner be expecting a promotion? :D And weren't we supposed to get the even better Sean May from Duke, but we opted to get them two instead? But I also heard that May is going through surgery and won't make it to the start of the season? (Sorry, i just read the headlines rather quickly, the ticker of my fav sports channel wouldn't play it again)

Let's pray for a #7 this year in their conference shall we :twisted:


I believe Graham and Villaneuva were the right choices. Graham is an athletic defender, which is sorely needed, and although everyone bags on Villaneuva because he's a power foward, I think he'll be able to adapt to small foward and maybe play a bit of center if we're planning on using our running game. Charlie was also the best rebounder and one of the most talented big man left, so I guess it was a better choice than most people would expect.

With Marshall gone, I'm expecting Villaneuva and Sow to steal his minutes, so I'm expecting Bonner to come up with around the same minutes as last season.
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Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:57 am

What I'm hoping is for Matt bonner to really eat up a lot of courtime since marshall is gone. Why bonner? Well, he can play marshall's position as a forward, but as marshall last season, he can really stretch out the defence with his uncanny ability to really drain those wide open shots.
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Postby Indy on Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:05 am

HAHAHA #7 in the East??? I have your Raptors ranked dead last. 14th at best.
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Postby Its_asdf on Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:07 am

Indy wrote:HAHAHA #7 in the East??? I have your Raptors ranked dead last. 14th at best.


As much as I hate you for saying that, it's true. Most teams have made acquisitions that would put them in the position to get a playoff spot........ Our team as added a few rookies, which is a good thing, but I don't think that necessarily translates into wins....... As long as we beat out Atlanta, I'm satisfied.
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Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:13 am

Indy wrote:HAHAHA #7 in the East??? I have your Raptors ranked dead last. 14th at best.


To each their own, but it's a bit more realistic than if the raptors were in the western conference eh? :lol:

wasn't the raptors at 10th spot last year? It's not that far off, they were beat into spots with really a few games apart from the next teams. It's not that far-fetched.

the only thing that really gets under me is the fact that raptors deep in our hearts can really be a good team, but they STILL struggle against poor teams. Too many times they gave up 20 pt leads and end up either losing or winning the game with a very small margin (which is unacceptable). but each to their own.
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Postby Drex on Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:45 pm

wasn't the raptors at 10th spot last year? It's not that far off, they were beat into spots with really a few games apart from the next teams. It's not that far-fetched.

The bad thing for you is that those teams with lower spots in the East improved (NJ, Philly, NY, Cleveland, etc)
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Postby BOSS on Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:17 pm

Drex wrote:
wasn't the raptors at 10th spot last year? It's not that far off, they were beat into spots with really a few games apart from the next teams. It's not that far-fetched.

The bad thing for you is that those teams with lower spots in the East improved (NJ, Philly, NY, Cleveland, etc)


That's what I basically stated. Philly didn't get better. They lost Jackson and McKie. A Key in there bench. Now they got 3 Rookies, Gai, Randolph and Williams. Can they produce as much as McKie and Jackson.
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Postby Drex on Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:34 pm

They got Hunter, a more experienced AI², Korver & Sammy, plus Webber has more time to gel with AI and the rest of the guys. It seems to me they got better (Y)
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Postby air_edwards23 on Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:48 pm

it was ok picking joey graham to fill in vince carter's old postion , but they didnt need another( Charlie V.) PF where chris bosh who is a starter is going to play if anything i thought they were going to pick either my boy gerald green or danny granger but Charlie V. but on the good side my friends went to the steve nash charity game and they told me hes pretty sick at dunking so we'll wait and see what happens with the raptors, hopefully this season we'll win 40 or more games.
Also we need a star player one who will benfit and we not decide to not try when they want to leave.
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Postby BOSS on Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:27 pm

air_edwards23 wrote:it was ok picking joey graham to fill in vince carter's old postion , but they didnt need another( Charlie V.) PF where chris bosh who is a starter is going to play if anything i thought they were going to pick either my boy gerald green or danny granger but Charlie V. but on the good side my friends went to the steve nash charity game and they told me hes pretty sick at dunking so we'll wait and see what happens with the raptors, hopefully this season we'll win 40 or more games.
Also we need a star player one who will benfit and we not decide to not try when they want to leave.


Who would of been able to fill Marshall's role than. He switched role's as a C sometimes and you think Bonner can do that ? It was a good choice. You don't call Bosh a star player ? He will be the future.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:42 pm

we don't need Granger or Green if we have Graham. CV was a good choice. Bosh will slide to 5 and CV will play 4, IF CV can prove to everyone he's not a slacker. AND BOSH IS A STAR PLAYER. START WATCHING THE RAPTERS GAMES :roll:
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Postby BOSS on Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:50 pm

[L3]1101 wrote:we don't need Granger or Green if we have Graham. CV was a good choice. Bosh will slide to 5 and CV will play 4, IF CV can prove to everyone he's not a slacker. AND BOSH IS A STAR PLAYER. START WATCHING THE RAPTERS GAMES :roll:


Thank you man. Some Raps fan just don't get what am saying.
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Postby Jan Shane on Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:53 pm

Initial D wrote:Who would of been able to fill Marshall's role than. He switched role's as a C sometimes and you think Bonner can do that ? It was a good choice. You don't call Bosh a star player ? He will be the future.


Bonner can fill marshall's spot just fine. Bonner can strecth out the defense just as much as Marshall could have with his lethal shooting. And if you're going to be talking about height and size, well marshall wasn't exactly a big post up presence. Now, with some rest and quite a bit of NBA experience, you can expect Bonner to be a lot better this year (hopefully)

And I didn't really care that they got CV and JG, since well, I just one the raptors to win. It's currently just a bonus right now :wink:
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Postby Its_asdf on Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:57 am

Bonner can fill marshall's spot just fine. Bonner can strecth out the defense just as much as Marshall could have with his lethal shooting. And if you're going to be talking about height and size, well marshall wasn't exactly a big post up presence. Now, with some rest and quite a bit of NBA experience, you can expect Bonner to be a lot better this year (hopefully)


Bonner isn't as good of a rebounder, shotblocker and interior defender as Marshall was, hence we also lost a huge chunk of defence at the four spot and I think that Bonner would be a semi-decent role player at best. He fits the stereotypical "white guy that comes off the bench and shoots some shots" type of player perfectly, and I think that's as good as he'll get.

Frankly, I don't care how many wins we get. As long as our rookies and Bosh continue to develop, I'm satisfied.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:50 am

Frankly, I don't care how many wins we get. As long as our rookies and Bosh continue to develop, I'm satisfied.


I agree. I don't mind waiting a couple of years before we go back to the play offs as long as we are going in the right direction. But i dont' know if Babcock is the right GM to lead us there. He did a good job on the draft but otherwise this offseason has been very quiet for the Raps.
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