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Postby frAn on Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:08 pm

1. tim duncan
2. kg
3. shaq
4. tmac
5.amare
6. lebron
7. wade
8. j.o.
9. kobe
10. nowitzki
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Postby Blazers on Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:42 pm

1) Tim Duncan
2) Shaquille O'Neal
3) Tracy McGrady
4) Kevin Garnett
5) Allen Iverson
6) Kobe Bryant
7) LeBron James
8) Dwayne Wade
9) Jermaine O'Neal
10) Amare Stoudamire
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Postby hova- on Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:32 am

I still dont get why u all list up t-mac that hight, hes one of the most gifted players, im down with that, but in my opinion hes still a lil imature.

AI is really one of the best 10 players.
Just the same thing he really maturated to a team player, and last year he showed he wants to pass. And he has the biggest heart of all players, hes fightin playin with injuries etc.. that affects you teammates making em better.

My top 10

1. TD : well, aint the most spectacular but is the most succesfull, that shows it all

2.Shaq : Just amazing, uses his size, but is also a skilled passer and not that immotile.

3.Nash : maybe only at the moment, but the last season showed the perfect pg to me.

4/5. dunno which one is better hard to compare, so they get both ranks:
KG : just amazing, big, fast, skilled ballhandler what you want ?
LB23 : well hes just that powerful and agile and has the full package with 20 years that awesome.

6.AI: i just wrote that above

7.Kobe: I think he had a big impact on the Lakers Champion team.
K, shaq was good, but we saw with Miami last year, Wade got injured and they werent able to win, so I think Shaq neede Bryant and Bryant needed Shaq, so both great players, but Shaq is more dominant.

8.T-Mac : I wrote that above, but i wanna say im not a hater, just my opninion, he has great skills, athelticism etv.

9.Nowitzki: He´s a great shooter, a good rebounder, and just "da man" for the important shots, so I think theres no other player shotin that good and havin a mismatch all the time. But he has to improve his passing/defense.

10. Well this place is open for all the ones who can reach the star lvl this season: Wade, Stoudamire, and for those who played bad last season but are well known : Kidd, Pierce etc.

Flame me, if I´ve forgotten anyone.

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Postby Rip32 on Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:05 am

wow dirk, pierce, carter didn't make your top 16 rip?


Oh snap your right i forgot Dirk, He should be pretty far up there Tha New List...

1.) Tim Duncan
2.) Kevin Garnett
3.) Kobe Bryant
4.) LeBron James
5.) Tracy McGrady
6.) Allen Iverson
7.) Shaq
8.) Dwyane Wade
9.) Elton Brand
10.) Jermaine O'Neal

.:Others Who Just Missed:.
10.) Dirk Nowitzki
11.) Ray Allen
12.) Amare Stoudamire
13.) Jason Kidd
14.) Steve Nash
15.) Brad Miller
16.) Paul Pierce
17.) Ben Wallace
18.) Vince Carter
19.) Shawn Marion
20.) Chauncey Billups
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Postby _marsal on Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:25 am

1.Duncan
2.KG
3.Shaq
4.LeBron
5.Wade
6.Iverson
7.Kobe
8. Amare
9. Jermaine
10. Vince
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Postby Riot on Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:25 am

aliuan123 wrote:
Rip32 wrote:1.) Tim Duncan
2.) Kevin Garnett
3.) Kobe Bryant
4.) LeBron James
5.) Tracy McGrady
6.) Allen Iverson
7.) Shaq
8.) Dwyane Wade
9.) Elton Brand
10.) Jermaine O'Neal

.:Others Who Just Missed:.
11.) Ray Allen
12.) Amare Stoudamire
13.) Jason Kidd
14.) Steve Nash
15.) Brad Miller
16.)Chauncey Billups


what is wrong with you vince is way better then brad billups and elton


and...Brad Miller?!?
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Postby ShAuN on Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:09 am

_marsal wrote:1.Duncan
2.KG
3.Shaq
4.LeBron
5.Wade
6.Iverson
7.Kobe
8. Amare
9. Jermaine
10. Vince



Whats so good about Vince Carter? Without Kidd his ankle would still be f*cked up and he would be crying. Hes never made the playoffs without Kidd. Hes a good player but not top 10.
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Postby boconcio on Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:15 am

1) Duncan - no explanation needed
2) T-Mac - great overall ability (shoot, rebound, block, steal, pass)
3) Garnett - very athletic and versatil (too bad he didn't make playoffs...)
4) Lebron - soon to be the best
5) Wade - man, he is the best player to watch right now, great offensive moves, good defense, and passing
6) Shaq - dominance
7) J. O'Neal - i like his style
8) Kidd - makes his teammates better
9) Big Ben - all about rebounding and blocking you may have in the league right now.
10) Artest - great defensive skills, quickness, covering passing lanes.
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Postby Riot on Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:16 am

ShAuNCx9 wrote:
_marsal wrote:1.Duncan
2.KG
3.Shaq
4.LeBron
5.Wade
6.Iverson
7.Kobe
8. Amare
9. Jermaine
10. Vince



Whats so good about Vince Carter? Without Kidd his ankle would still be f*cked up and he would be crying. Hes never made the playoffs without Kidd. Hes a good player but not top 10.


Vince has never made the playoffs without Kidd? Did you watch basketball before two years ago?
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Postby J@3 on Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:30 am

1) Duncan - no explanation needed
2) T-Mac - great overall ability (shoot, rebound, block, steal, pass)
3) Garnett - very athletic and versatil (too bad he didn't make playoffs...)
4) Lebron - soon to be the best
5) Wade - man, he is the best player to watch right now, great offensive moves, good defense, and passing
6) Shaq - dominance
7) J. O'Neal - i like his style
8) Kidd - makes his teammates better
9) Big Ben - all about rebounding and blocking you may have in the league right now.
10) Artest - great defensive skills, quickness, covering passing lanes.


You have Garnett at 3rd because he didn't make the playoffs, but Ron "7 Game" Artest makes the top 10?
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Postby Riot on Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:37 am

Not to mention Lebron is #4 and he hasn't made the playoffs yet and he is in the East.
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Postby CERVANTES on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:12 am

1) Tim Duncan - PF
2) Shaquille O'neal - C
3) Kevin Garnett - F
4) Tracy McGrady - G/F
5) Ray Allen - SG
6) LeBron James - G/F
7) Jermaine O'neal - PF
8) Dwyane Wade - G
9) Kobe Bryant - Selfish Guard
10) Jason Kidd - PG
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Postby CERVANTES on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:13 am

Jae wrote:1) Duncan - no explanation needed
2) T-Mac - great overall ability (shoot, rebound, block, steal, pass)
3) Garnett - very athletic and versatil (too bad he didn't make playoffs...)
4) Lebron - soon to be the best
5) Wade - man, he is the best player to watch right now, great offensive moves, good defense, and passing
6) Shaq - dominance
7) J. O'Neal - i like his style
8) Kidd - makes his teammates better
9) Big Ben - all about rebounding and blocking you may have in the league right now.
10) Artest - great defensive skills, quickness, covering passing lanes.


:shock: ARTEST IN TOP 10 ? MAYBE IF THIS WAS TOP 10 WORST PLAYERS OF NBA... :roll:
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Postby ShAuN on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:17 am

Riot wrote:
ShAuNCx9 wrote:
_marsal wrote:1.Duncan
2.KG
3.Shaq
4.LeBron
5.Wade
6.Iverson
7.Kobe
8. Amare
9. Jermaine
10. Vince



Whats so good about Vince Carter? Without Kidd his ankle would still be f*cked up and he would be crying. Hes never made the playoffs without Kidd. Hes a good player but not top 10.


Vince has never made the playoffs without Kidd? Did you watch basketball before two years ago?


My bad forgot, but still not top 10
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Postby J@3 on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:24 am

That's not my list.
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Postby Indy on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:38 am

Even I wouldn't put Artest in the top ten. Top 20 maybe, top 25 definitley.

Top 10, naw.
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Postby FendeR` on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:39 am

Indy wrote:I hate how underrated he is, but hey, it'll be just that much more surprising to everyone when he wins MVP this season I guess. :wink:


And even funnier when he doesn't. :lol:

Well, if it was a list of the best players who make their team better (which I prefer), it would be a different list, but here's mine.

1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. LeBron James
4. Allen Iverson
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Shaq
7. Tracy McGrady
8. Dwyane Wade
9. Amare
10. Dirk Nowitzki
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Postby Doobie on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:51 am

1)Garnett
2)Duncan
3)shaq
4)kobe
5)Lebron
6)T-mac
7)Jermaine
8)Iverson
9)Wade
10)Gilbert Arenas (im surprised he isn't on any of these list hes a really good player and i find him underrated , has a bright future ahead of him.)
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Postby _marsal on Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:59 am

ShAuNCx9 wrote:
_marsal wrote:1.Duncan
2.KG
3.Shaq
4.LeBron
5.Wade
6.Iverson
7.Kobe
8. Amare
9. Jermaine
10. Vince



Whats so good about Vince Carter? Without Kidd his ankle would still be f*cked up and he would be crying. Hes never made the playoffs without Kidd. Hes a good player but not top 10.


What's so good about him?Where have you been for the past 6 years? If wouldn't been for his injuries, he could easily average 25+5+5. Oh wait, he did that after got traded to the Nets. And as far as i remember, he wasn't injured. Now just imagine how good could he'd be if he stayed as athletic as he was in 1st two years..And btw, he made the playoffs with preety sucky Toronto team.
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Postby cyanide on Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:14 am

Toronto was a pretty good team when they made that run against the Sixers. Just before Carter was traded, he pretty much ruined Toronto with his laziness, then screwed them over again by playing well in New Jersey. I can blame Babcock for a shitty trade, but I can blame Carter for purposely lowering his trade value.
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Postby Rip32 on Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:51 am

what is wrong with you vince is way better then brad billups and elton


Thats pretty funny cause i know your serious about it. :lol:

Vince Carter is a great talent but after all his injuries and how many time he has dissapeared come playoff time, Hes just not as confident a player as anyone else on the list.

Brad Miller is arguably the best Center in the West and the Best Passing center. He can Rebound, Play Defense and Shoot the ball from like 17ft and in. He doesnt dissapear in Big games either.

Me putting Chauncey so high is kinda biased but He is the 2nd best big-game situation player in the L and hes an All-NBA defender and elite shooter/scorer for a PG. Nuff' said

Elton Brand is the 3rd best Front Court Player in the West. He puts up the exact same stats as Tim duncan and he is 4 inches shorter hes an elite rebounder for his size and he can put up 20 and 10 in his sleep.
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Postby fgrep15 on Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:00 am

1) Duncan
2) Garnett
3) Shaq
4) Kobe
5) Tmac
6) Iverson
7) Wade
7) Lebron
9) Kidd
10) Amare
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Postby Little_Big_Man on Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:09 am

1. Kobe (The most gifted, competitive player in the game)
2. Duncan (The only real flaw is his free throws)
3. Shaq (Ditto plus he crys too much, needs to be more assertive on BOTH ends)
4. Garnett (The most versatile in the game right now)
5. Dirk (Can score on anyone almost at will)
6. Amare (Can any one person stop him? Wait until his mid-range game opens up)
7. McGrady (Would have been higher but I still think he doesn't try hard enough)
8. Iverson (Does more than he should with his stature, great player)
9. Wade (Better than Bron hands down, on his way to Kobe Status as far as skills)
10. Artest (Will make teams wish he was still suspended)

Honorable mention....LeBron (overated but still a good player), Ben Wallace (Great Defender, improving on his offense), Billups (underated, great finisher), Ginobili (Great passion for the game, excellent slasher), Vince Carter (Needs to be more aggressive like before), Nash (Great passer, makes teammates better), Marion (underated, look what he did at PF last year in the West :shock: )
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Postby Doobie on Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:40 am

Gilbert Arenas is deffinently underated , no1 here even gave him an honorable mention .
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Postby boconcio on Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:13 am

well, Artest is a real top 10, he is the best defensive backcourt player in this whole league, if someone has both big ben and artest they would allow no more than 85 ppg.
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