NHl...lil stupid question!!

[Do']

I got a question,is that garry bettman here--> http://www.calgaryflames.com/extra/imag ... an_200.jpg
Are the same person on the name of Jacque Martin--> http://www.flpanthers.com/images/headshots/JMartin.jpg

Jacque is the panthers coach and bettman is the GM of the nhl

[LethalWeaponCB4]

Yeah you are correct, its not a stupid question in my eyes..there has been no nhl and plus its a basketball forum not a hockey forum

[Jugs]

The silly thing was, he coulda used google.

[BOSS]

Uh ye it's stupid man. I dont wanna say but ye. Check the hyperlink out. It has there names at the end.

I got a question,is that garry bettman here--> http://www.calgaryflames.com/extra/images/bettman_200.jpg
Are the same person on the name of Jacque Martin--> http://www.flpanthers.com/images/headshots/JMartin.jpg

[Jackal_]

LMAO @ this stupid thread

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

No, it's the same person. Definitely. Absolutely. No doubt about it. Spot on. Totally.

[Strike Freedom]

i've got a question bout.. ice hockey..

what's the meaning of powertime? or power sth.. say like 2 mins..

[Jackal_]

i've got a question bout.. ice hockey..

what's the meaning of powertime? or power sth.. say like 2 mins..

I think you mean PowerPlay.. it's when one team has a player serving a penalty in the penalty box for say 2 minutes (Minor) and the team is short handed. The Team with 5 players is on a power play. Theres times when its 5 on 3 or 4 on 3.. depending on how many penalties.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

The Team with 5 players is on a power play.

And teh other team is playing 'shorthanded'. hence the terms 'Powerplay goal' and (rarer) 'Shorthanded Goal'.

BTW, I'm still all for signing a 600-pound ex-sumotori, and having him just sit in a Yoga stance in fron of goal. Talk about shut downs...

[Andreas Dahl]

I thought it was called 'box play' when you have one less player...

That's a great idea about the ex-sumotori (why ex- by the way?) Dweaver. No reason why it shouldn't be allowed, and it should work like a charm

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

That's a great idea about the ex-sumotori (why ex- by the way?) Dweaver.

Well, active sumotoris are icons in Japan and would never give up their sport for anything else. Unless we are talking about amateur American Sumo wrestlers...

No reason why it shouldn't be allowed, and it should work like a charm

Indeed. I doubt there would be a single hole in goal for the other team to score... But when every team started doing that, the league would probably increase the measurements of the goal, or put a weight limit on goalies...

But just imagine a 600 pound man ( there have been sumotoris listed at even 800 pounds!!! ) , with all the equipment, glove, pads , stick, just sitting there in front of teh goal...

[Matthew]

I disagree. Hockey is a skill based sport, like basketball. Some people outside the game might say "just get the tallest player and he can just drop the ball in over the other players" the same way you are saying "get a fat guy to clog up the goals". While its an interesting idea, it wouldnt work.

[Andreas Dahl]

I agree with the basketball analogy, but it's not the same as for the hockey, at least not when you say just a fat guy, but it should be a guy so fat that he'll cover up 98% of the goal. It might still be possible for some great guys to score on him, but when there are 5 other players to help the goalie, it becomes an almost impossible task.

[Matthew]

Hockey players are so skilled. The speed and accuracy of their shots are incredible (and i dont even like the sport, look at my signature).

It's the same as Shawn Bradley. He is effective against scrubs in the nba, but the stars-superstars in the nba just eat him alive.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

should be a guy so fat that he'll cover up 98% of the goal. It might still be possible for some great guys to score on him, but when there are 5 other players to help the goalie, it becomes an almost impossible task.

Indeed. It's like having a 7' 5" , 450 pound basketball playesr with legit three range and Hakeem's posr moves. It would not be fair, rules would have to be changed.

[Matthew]

But thats the thing, its the equivilent of having a 7'5 450lb basketball player, but without the shooting skills and hakeems post up game. Those are the skills that would be missing.

[Andreas Dahl]

Well, Bradley got to compete against the other players speed, physicalness and general skills and so on (up and down the court all the time). A hockey goalie doesn't have to do the same things; all he focuses on is staying at the same place and doesn't have to compete against the other players in the same way. A goalie generally needs to be quick and not much else, but if you cover up pretty much all of the goal, there's no need for skills really.

If you look at a normal game, how many shots a team gets off at the other team depends on how well the other team plays on defence... The players can't choose their situations when and where to shoot, they have to shoot when they are given the opportunity, and how big of a change do you think they have to make a shot if they can't choose their own situation, against a normal team that is accompanied by a gigantic goalie that covers pretty much all of the goal.

[Matthew]

Dont be fooled, Hockey Goalies reflexes and agility is what seperates the good and the bad.

And somtimes the amount of shots a team gets off has to do with rebounds off misses. If a goalie is good he wont allow many rebounds.

[Andreas Dahl]

Yea, but a goalie that covers the entire goal doesn't need reflexes; you could stuff a corpse in there...

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

Dont be fooled, Hockey Goalies reflexes and agility is what seperates the good and the bad.

Provided the goalie is of average ssize. If he covers up most of th egoal, it's like having a wall with moving parts as your goalie... that wouldn't be too bad, would it.

Just imagine a soccer goalkeeper that somehow managed to cover 95% or more of his net. It would be near impossible to score agaisnt him.

Or think of it this way. A basketball rim with only a few mm larger in diameter than the ball. How many shots would go in?

[Matthew]

Its different, totally different. The speed of a hockey puck is alot faster than a soccer ball, and a basketball shot requires alot more precision (backspin, trajectory, etc etc) to go in.

Hockey players are used to gettin the puck in places we can only imagine.

And dont forget, no matter how big the goalie is, his legs wouldnt be able to cover the entire base of the goals.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

no matter how big the goalie is, his legs wouldnt be able to cover the entire base of the goals.

A 600 pound man would only have to sit in a yoga-like stance in front of goal, and still cover pretty much of teh area without goalie equipment. Now, if you make the goalie a 6' 8" , 700+ pound behemoth, there would be few holes left for shooters to score, unless the goal size is enlarged.

Here's a regular sized man playing goalie, Martin Brodeur:




and here's a huge sumotori. Now just imagine this 800+ pound beast sitting in front of teh same goal.

[Matthew]

I'm still not sold.

For starters, the goal is not completely shown.

Second of all, we dont know how quick the reflexes are of the fat cunt

and third of all, can he even skate?

Now if he did infact cover every inch of the goals, then yes, its ingenius. But I doubt he does.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

Brodeur is a normal 6' 2", 210 lbs goalie. My exact size, in fact...

The other guy is about 6' 9" and 800 pounds, if he's the sumotori I think he is. Now just look jow Martin gets all buffed up with the pads and equipment. Add the equipment to the sumotori, and he'll be wide and long enough to cover almost the entire goal.

Second of all, we dont know how quick the reflexes are of the fat cunt

If he covers almost all of the goal, it would not matter that much...

and third of all, can he even skate?

That might be a problem, since he would probably would not be able to play the puck outside the goal, but that's a small price to pay for having an inpenetrable wall in front of your net.

[Matthew]

If he has to move the slightest he will be exposed. These guys in the NHL are the best in the world and highly skilled. They'd still get it by him.

The other guy is about 6' 9" and 800 pounds, if he's the sumotori I think he is. Now just look jow Martin gets all buffed up with the pads and equipment. Add the equipment to the sumotori, and he'll be wide and long enough to cover almost the entire goal.

I'd have to see it to believe it.