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Postby LethalWeaponCB4 on Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:35 am

Mo, is amazing at home no question he can do the same on the road and then i say we keep him
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Postby Its_asdf on Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:59 pm

LethalWeaponCB4 wrote:Mo, is amazing at home no question he can do the same on the road and then i say we keep him


He also played pretty well on away games near the end of the season, and I noticed he has rounded out his offence pretty well by adding a pull-up mid-range game. This really helped him because he either settled for the three (which he couldn't create on his own) or curled to the basket for a layup, and that could become a pretty easy pattern to recognize if you're on defence, hence the inconsistency.

Mo also had some pretty sweet dunks (especially that 180 in the last game against Cleveland, boy that was pretty), so this could be a good signal that Mo is actually using some hops and athletiscm to attack the rim more aggressively as well.

At first I also thought Peterson might not be consistent enough and we might have to trade him, but these last couple of games really opened my eyes. Maybe Mo will live up to his 5 million a year after all.........

I checked ESPN to make sure, and the last month's games averages are:

FG% - .459
3-pt% -.390
FT% - .846
Steals - 2.2
Reboundss - 6.9
Assists - 3.5
Points per game - 17.5

I know this isn't a good portrayal of what Mo will average next season, but if he's healthy and keeps this type of production up, I see Mo getting probably a 15-4-2 statline, something similiar earlier on in his career.
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Postby LethalWeaponCB4 on Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:59 pm

:dance: Ill go nuts if the Raptors get a good 7th pick
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Postby Indy on Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:02 pm

LethalWeaponCB4 wrote:THey should try and trade mo


LethalWeaponCB4 wrote:Mo, is amazing at home no question he can do the same on the road and then i say we keep him


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Postby [L3]1101 on Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:24 pm

damn, from what i read, there's a chance that the raps will draft Frye just to piss the Knicks and trade away some players on the bench. I don't like this at all. I mean there are players like Granger and Wright who wants to play for the raptors, why pass on them? I would hate to see another Steve Francis on a canadian team.
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Postby fgrep15 on Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:10 pm

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We will not draft Channing Frye at 7th, please, let me just get that out there, if we do, Babcock should be killed. The acceptable players at 7th at: Granger, Green, Felton, and possibly Graham, one of those guys must be avalaibe at our pich, and Graham definately will be.

At 16th: Jack, Ukic, and maybe a C like Johan Petro, but either Jack or Ukic should be available. If we get Felton at 7th, then Warrick, Martell Webster [if not gone, should be though], are possibilities as swingmen.
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Postby tsherkin on Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:50 pm

Raptors fan here....

At the 7, assuming no trade of our picks, I want Green or Felton. At the 16, if they're still around, I'd like Wright or Granger. I want no part of Channing Frye, Rashard McCants, or Monta-freaking-Ellis (who sucks, Sam Cassell Lite with all of the attitude issues).
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Postby $Chris Bosh$ on Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:56 pm

we well get green, graham or my fav granger with our 7th
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Postby Fenix on Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:12 am

Sources: Hornets talking to Raptors

N.O. offers Magloire for 2 first-round picks
Sunday, June 26, 2005By John Reid
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With two days remaining before Tuesday's NBA draft, the Hornets are involved in trade discussions with the Toronto Raptors to get two first-round picks, according to league sources Saturday night.

The possible deal would involve the Hornets trading center Jamaal Magloire to Toronto for the Raptors' picks at Nos. 7 and 16. No other players have been mentioned in the trade discussions, sources said.

If the deal is made, the Hornets would have three picks in the first round.

It could be a struggle for the Hornets next month to land a high-profile free agent, so it appears they want to build through the draft to get a much-needed small forward or power forward in addition to selecting a point guard with their No. 4 pick.

League sources said the Hornets want the deal, but Toronto is somewhat hesitant about having to give up both of its first-round picks. There is a chance the Raptors could be more willing to give up their No. 7 pick and offer one of their current players as part of the deal.

Hornets general manager Allan Bristow and Toronto general manager Rob Babcock could not be reached for comment Saturday night.

During the free agency period last summer, the Hornets offered Raptors guard Morris Peterson a three-year, $15 million deal as a restricted free agent. He accepted the deal, but the Raptors matched the offer to retain him.

Magloire was an All-Star selection during the 2003-04 the season, the Hornets' final season in the Eastern Conference. He was the Hornets' first-round pick in the 2000 NBA draft and has averaged 9.5 points and 7.4 rebounds in four seasons. In 23 games last season, he averaged 11.7 points.

Magloire is from Toronto and the Raptors believe he would be a major draw at the Air Canada Centre, where he would be teamed with developing star Chris Bosh.

Magloire spends the offseason in Toronto, and for the past two seasons has expressed how difficult it is for him to leave the city before training camp starts in New Orleans. Magloire has expressed on several occasions that one day he would like to return home to play in front of his family on a regular basis.

During training camp last season, Magloire and former Hornets point guard Baron Davis were the only players who didn't favor the team's policy of banning team trainers from the practice facility.

Magloire is the highest-paid player on the Hornets' roster, earning approximately $8.5 million a season with two years left on his contract.

He missed 51 games this past season with a fractured right ring finger. At the end of last season, Magloire said he anxiously awaited his exit interview with Coach Byron Scott to know what the team's plans were for him next season.

"For me to say, they have plans of trading me or not, I don't know," Magloire said at the end of the regular season. "You hear so much speculation, but he (Scott) hasn't given me any sign or have any intention of trading me."

In April, Scott said he wanted to have Magloire back.
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Postby LethalWeaponCB4 on Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:38 am

I would not take J.M not for the 16th pick anyway.
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Postby $Chris Bosh$ on Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:41 am

magloire for our 16th and lammond murray, maybe id do that
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Postby $Chris Bosh$ on Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:55 am

1 more rumor

Rose and 7th pick

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Caron Butler, Grant (salary purposes) and the 10th pick.
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Postby Indy on Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:58 am

LethalWeaponCB4 wrote:I would not take J.M not for the 16th pick anyway.


You wouldn't take an All Star for your second first round pick? Are you insane?
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Postby [L3]1101 on Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:52 am

i like JM, but i also like the 7th pick. The best senario for the raps is trade the 16th and maybe a couple bench players. But i don't think the hornets would want that unless JM really demands a trade like carter did, then maybe the hornets will be forced to trade him. It's a tough decision. But i thihnk the best thing to do right now is not to make a trade. Pick the 7th, and 16th and see who they can drat. Then talk trade from there.
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Postby cyanide on Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:12 am

I like Magloire, but for those two first round picks? I dunno, that's a big risk right there.
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Postby LethalWeaponCB4 on Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:12 am

IndyPacers67 wrote:
LethalWeaponCB4 wrote:I would not take J.M not for the 16th pick anyway.


You wouldn't take an All Star for your second first round pick? Are you insane?


Mabey.......i think you can get a better deal depending on who you draft. This draft is one of the deepest drafts ever. I wouldnt do that deal yet
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Postby Amphatoast on Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:36 am

im sorry but maglorie for 2nd first round pick is a no brainer because he is a all-star first of all, and 2nd of all he is a big man. How many all-star big men are there?? How many decent big men are there?? Not many..
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Postby [L3]1101 on Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:57 am

maglore is barely an all-star, i don't even know how he made the all star. He's injuries are first a concern for the raps. It took him almost a whole season to recover that finger. Who know how long it'll take him if it was a leg injury. I like maglore, he's a good rebounder and defender, and occasionally can score. But he's not worth those 2 picks, not this year's draft anyways.
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Postby Amphatoast on Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:07 am

LethalWeaponCB4 wrote:I would not take J.M not for the 16th pick anyway.

i was commenting on that lol...
but i agree 2 first round picks is too much.. paul pierce might be worth it but i dont know about jammal... injury is a problem and toronto don't need anther 1/2 season guy after they got rid of one

it would be good for him though since he is canadian
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Postby cyanide on Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:46 am

[L3]1101 wrote:maglore is barely an all-star, i don't even know how he made the all star.


If the East won the 2003-2004 All Star game, Magloire could've won MVP
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Postby [L3]1101 on Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:25 am

cyanide wrote:
[L3]1101 wrote:maglore is barely an all-star, i don't even know how he made the all star.


If the East won the 2003-2004 All Star game, Magloire could've won MVP


you are right, he did pretty well that year. But i still don't think the raptors should do the trade. They need some serious help in the backcourt..... and at C.
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Postby $Chris Bosh$ on Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:29 am

thats why im not sure if we should do this as badly as we need a center we also need a good young prospect i would trade the 7th only or the 16th only not both, we just cant
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Postby fgrep15 on Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:35 am

tsherkin wrote:Raptors fan here....

At the 7, assuming no trade of our picks, I want Green or Felton. At the 16, if they're still around, I'd like Wright or Granger. I want no part of Channing Frye, Rashard McCants, or Monta-freaking-Ellis (who sucks, Sam Cassell Lite with all of the attitude issues).

Wright could possibly be available at 16th, but Granger definately will not. Granger right now is predicted as high as Utah I think it is with Green or Felton dropping to the Raps. Granger will not go past the Top 10 unless something drastic happens tommorow.

I agree with not wanting Frye, who I think New York is taking, McCants, or Ellis the highschool PG who doesn't seem to have much to me. He's not that athletic, and he's supposed to even be a PG/SG, not a pure PG.


Also who cares about a center, right now, I don't see any centers we should take at our draft positions. If you can get a tough guy who's about 6'11, and will bang, you don't need a pure center. Their's only so many teams that have centers that you actually have to worry about.
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Postby LethalWeaponCB4 on Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:21 am

I ll say it over and over again.....Take the best guy on the board center or not.
I would love to see Felton here though he could be the PG the raptors need
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Postby tsherkin on Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:32 pm

fgrep15 wrote:Wright could possibly be available at 16th, but Granger definately will not. Granger right now is predicted as high as Utah I think it is with Green or Felton dropping to the Raps. Granger will not go past the Top 10 unless something drastic happens tommorow.


Who cares? Granger isn't that important in the grand scheme of things; there are competent wing players in every draft. He's a good athlete with a good shot, sure, but so's Wright and he'll be available later.

As long as we get Green, I'm happy. Or if we don't, Felton (at that pick, and hopefully Wright at the 16). Granger isn't going to be a franchise player. He's got nothing special ITO of ball-handling abilities and I'm not overly impressed with a guy who's "Best Case Scenario" is often compared to Josh Howard with a more consistent perimeter J. Whoo, lookit me jumping on THAT bandwagon. Seriously, the 7th pick shouldn't be used on Granger whether he's there or not.

I agree with not wanting Frye, who I think New York is taking, McCants, or Ellis the highschool PG who doesn't seem to have much to me. He's not that athletic, and he's supposed to even be a PG/SG, not a pure PG.


Monta Ellis is, for lack of a better term, a b!tch. He has no real playmaking skills, he's all about flash without substance and he's a selfish player. He's a less-talented Sam Cassell with no playmaking abilities. If he's drafted, it'll be in the second round and it'll be purely based on the HOPE that he won't stay an irredeemable jack-ass moron all his career.

Also who cares about a center, right now, I don't see any centers we should take at our draft positions. If you can get a tough guy who's about 6'11, and will bang, you don't need a pure center. Their's only so many teams that have centers that you actually have to worry about.


I wouldn't mind Randolph Morris in the second round, if possible. I don't really want a C with a 1st round pick.
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