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Brown to Cleveland ( larry)

Tue May 31, 2005 2:00 pm

as if there wasn't enough browns there...
ESPN is reporting this..
Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert got one Brown -- new head coach Mike Brown -- added to the payroll in recent days. Will he have another to add in the coming weeks?

Larry Brown has told two league sources that he plans to take the Cavaliers' offer to become their next team president. According to the sources, who spoke to ESPN.com on Monday evening, Brown said he would accept the position after the Pistons' season is over.

Brown is still under contract to Detroit, which trails the Miami Heat 2-1 in the Eastern Conference finals, and sources say he will continue to maintain publicly that he won't decide his future with the Pistons until 72 hours after their season is over. Given that timetable, pressing medical issues, his history of unpredictable decisions, and the fact he can't formally sign a contract with the Cavs until he resigns from his job with the Pistons, Brown's future in the NBA won't be certain until he attends a news conference for the Cavaliers to formally announce his hiring.

The Cavaliers would not comment Monday. Brown said last week he would not comment on whether he'd spoken with Gilbert.

In recent days, Brown has said repeatedly that he intends to check into a hospital after the season is over because of a serious medical condition. The condition has developed as a result of midseason hip surgery he underwent, and Brown wants a medical evaluation. However, sources maintain that while Brown's medical condition might keep him from coaching again, they do not believe it is serious enough to keep him from working as a team president.

Still, the sources claim that Cavaliers ownership pushed Brown to give them an answer this weekend before they lost out on other top candidates for the job. After hearing Larry Brown's answer, events leading to Mike Brown's hire were set in motion.

Pacers senior vice president David Morway, who had been the frontrunner to get the Cavaliers' GM position before Cleveland began flirting with Brown, had given ownership until Monday evening to make a decision before he had to withdraw from consideration. On Monday, Morway found out that the Cavs were going in another direction.

"I'm in a great situation in Indiana working for Donnie Walsh and Larry Bird, and have no desire to leave unless an unbelievable opportunity came along," Morway told ESPN.com. "When I first interviewed, I was told that the general manager position would have full authority over basketball-related decisions and report directly to ownership.

"However, over the course of the last week, they indicated that they were exploring hiring a high-profile team president that would have full control of all basketball decisions. After talking with ownership, it appears that's the direction they are going and as a result, I am no longer a candidate for the GM position.

"I appreciate the interest they showed in me and wish them the best of luck in the future."

Morway said he did not know if the Cavaliers had targeted Brown.

Signs, however, are everywhere that Brown is coming aboard. Newly hired head coach Mike Brown is the protégé of Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, a close friend and confidant of Larry Brown.

Mike Brown also has reportedly contacted Randy Ayers, a former Larry Brown assistant and former coach of the Sixers, about an assistant coach's position.

The Cavs also recently interviewed Wizards director of player personnel Milt Newton for the vacant GM position. Newton played for Brown at Kansas and is another close friend who might be targeted to take over the day-to-day operations of the Cavs.

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

Tue May 31, 2005 2:05 pm

I wonder if all this will actually change anything in Cleveland.

Tue May 31, 2005 2:06 pm

I never knew Larry Brown could become a team president :lol: It will be a big transition from coaching to president. I guess the Cavs are thinking an entire new staff will help them have a good team next season. I know that he asked John Calipari from the Memphis Tigers to become the coach there and asked Jerry West to become the team president, but both of them declined because they wanted to stay in Memphis :P So I guess he really was searching for those few positions.

Tue May 31, 2005 3:22 pm

if this is true, wouldnt this be tampering

Tue May 31, 2005 4:41 pm

I wish Mike Brown good luck for next season. He appears to be a good choice. He is linked to Larry Brown and G Popovich.

Tue May 31, 2005 5:07 pm

This is good news for Darko. :wink:

Tue May 31, 2005 8:54 pm

^^^exactly.

If Brown leaves i won't be sad, even if he brings another championship. He's done a fantastic job here, as evidenced by Billups, Prince, B Wallace's improvements. Now it's time for someone else to come in and take over. Someone that will let the bench play...i wanna see more of Darko, Carlos Arroyo and Ronald Dupree. They all need time, something they wont get under Brown.

Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:40 am

I don't really like the fact of Larry Brown taking the job because he can have a certain temper with players and if he ends up becoming the GM as well, he may end trading Lebron if he has a problem with him. Stein had an article about it on espn.com and I have to agree with him because he isn't afraid to move players, but he might just move the wrong players.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2 ... id=2072330

Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:55 am

SbHzMaFiA wrote:I don't really like the fact of Larry Brown taking the job because he can have a certain temper with players and if he ends up becoming the GM as well, he may end trading Lebron if he has a problem with him. Stein had an article about it on espn.com and I have to agree with him because he isn't afraid to move players, but he might just move the wrong players.


Yeah, that would get a Gilbert's blessing. "'Bron? Oh, Larry, you would have to ask me that. Just swap him some scrubs, that untalented bastard."

I have problems with people who say that LeBron is lazy. Seeing him having an open gym tournament five months before the start of the next season starts and working out with guys at Speed Strength Systems, word 'lazy' just doesn't come on my mind.

Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:00 am

If I was in the NBA, I couldn't see myself being lazy because I just love to play basketball no matter how tough practices are. I just like playing the game and if I had the money, I would probably hold tournaments for all my NBA friends to come over and play like a 3-on-3 tournament for charity or something like at a arena too. I'll play basketball for most of the summer especially if I had my own gym in my house. I don't understand what's wrong with some of these NBA players though and I don't consider Bron as lazy either.

Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:48 am

Source:

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/plaindeal ... xml&coll=2


Newest acquisitions so far:

Coach: Mike Brown (Heach Coach assistant from The Indiana Pacers)
President: Larry Brown (current Head Coach of The Detroit Pistons)
GM: (myabe another Brown) :D
Players: (please let it be either Joe Johnson or Michael Redd) :)

Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:13 am

It will be so funny if Lebron James leaves the cavs after all this.

Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:55 am

He probably could. Who knows how well Larry Brown would be as team president, and who knows how LeBron feels about Mike Brown.

Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:46 am

From what i read, Larry will have control over all basketball operations, so he'd also be a GM in all but name. They had a another person in mind for GM almost ready, but told him he wouldn't be needed because they had a high profile president that wanted to make all GM decisions.

Should be interesting, but smells like the Memphis situation with West.

Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:17 am

Or Miami's situation with Riley. Or do they have a GM?

Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:54 am

I thought Pfund was their GM, is that no longer the case?

Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:05 pm

Riley's been in charge of basketball operations since joining the Heat in 1995, I believe his title has always been Vice President though (in addition to being the coach from 1995 to 2003).

air gordon wrote:if this is true, wouldnt this be tampering


Probably close to it, but I suppose there's some loophole with the Pistons giving the Cavaliers permission to speak with him.

Stein certainly makes the hiring sound like a bad idea. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but history seems to suggest he's not the best man for the job.

Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:30 pm

I wonder how Lebron feels about his new coach....??? :?: if he turns out to be a bum.... maybe LBJ could take the same route Vinsanity took this year :D

Bombed the Olympics.

Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:05 pm

Andrew wrote:
air gordon wrote:if this is true, wouldnt this be tampering


Probably close to it, but I suppose there's some loophole with the Pistons giving the Cavaliers permission to speak with him.

No tampering or loopholes, the media is just coming to conclusions. Cleveleland hasn't released any statements or done anything that will be counted as tampering because the Pistons did give them permission to talk to Brown.

I don't really like the fact of Larry Brown taking the job because he can have a certain temper with players

Yea, he plays favorites. Signing up an old Derrick Coleman wherever he coaches is just too much! :x

*see post below*
Nice one Drex. It will even be better if the Cavs bombed next season.
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Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:16 pm

If this thing happens, expect many "Cleveland Browns" jokes next season

Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:26 pm

Drex wrote:If this thing happens, expect many "Cleveland Browns" jokes next season


haha i didnt think of that

very good :applaud:
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