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Steve Nash named MVP

Sat May 07, 2005 6:30 am

Breaking news on espn.com. I was rooting for Nash over Shaq all this time and I'm happy for Steve.

Sat May 07, 2005 6:35 am

:roll:

He deserves it, but I think at least there should be co-MVPs.

Sat May 07, 2005 6:37 am

naw not nash i hoped to see someone else to win this award :(

Sat May 07, 2005 7:17 am

Are you serious? Is this official?

Sat May 07, 2005 7:23 am

I'm glad Nash won it because Nash turned the Suns into one of the most dominate offenses in the game, Shaq has done what he has been doing for years IMO and Nash turned Stoudemire into a star, even though he already had it in him, but Nash gives him easy buckets 90% of the time.

Sat May 07, 2005 7:28 am

No surprise here. Nash was a clear favorite for a while, and while there you'll see Shaq here, or TD there, Nash was always in the running. He made the game easy for Marion and Stoudemire, and the Suns wouldn't be first in the league without him. Too bad Stockton didn't win one in his career :(

Sat May 07, 2005 8:42 am

lol ive never seen co mvp's happen before for the reg season

Sat May 07, 2005 8:46 am

linky: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2 ... id=2054677

YAY!!! Phoenix represented, Canada represented, white boys represented. I'm super happy for him. :D

Sat May 07, 2005 8:46 am

How annoying.

Sat May 07, 2005 9:04 am

Yes! Steve deserved it.

Sat May 07, 2005 9:48 am

Once Miami wins the championship I'll go about arguing this. :D

Sat May 07, 2005 10:09 am

demilioso wrote:For awhile I was on the Steve Nash MVP bandwagon. I bought into the arguments for his deserving the award. Then someone brought up a plain, simple fact that cannot be ignored: Steve Nash isn't even the best player on his team! I love Nash, but he's no MVP.


MVP is not monitered by talent alone. MVP means most valuble player. Steve Nash was the most valubale player on the Suns, who were the best team (record wise) in the NBA. He is the MVP of the league! No doubt about it in my mind, and my mind is usually pretty biased towards Indiana. Look at where the Suns were without SN, they were in shambles! Disarray! The suns don't even look like a very good team when SN is sitting on the bench!!!

Sat May 07, 2005 10:41 am

Don't worry Shaq fans. Shaq will win Finals MVP, which is the REAL MVP award.

Sat May 07, 2005 10:46 am

bangyounh wrote:Don't worry Shaq fans. Shaq will win Finals MVP, which is the REAL MVP award.


Wait a minute... Don't you need to reach the finals in order to win the Finals MVP?? Unless Shaq somehow trades himself to Indiana right now, it aint happnin

:P

Sat May 07, 2005 11:02 am

I didn't think the voters would have the guts to do it, but it's well deserved.

Then someone brought up a plain, simple fact that cannot be ignored: Steve Nash isn't even the best player on his team! I love Nash, but he's no MVP.


Neither is Shaq. Miami would still be flailing away at NJ (who are just about as good as the Cavaliers) without Wade, heck NJ would probably be up a game without Wade.

If the award is "Best 1 on 1 player" that goes to Kobe or LeBron. But that has nothing to do with MVP, which is about what player brings the most wins to his team.

Sat May 07, 2005 11:07 am

nash winning just got me 10 dollars. woop woop...

glad as hell this guy got it. deserved it. shaq'll get "the other" MVP.

Sat May 07, 2005 11:29 am

Congratulations to Nahs although I thought Shaq was going to get it...

Sat May 07, 2005 12:49 pm

Bah, Shaq deserved it better...

But congrats to Nash, he had an amazing season! (Y)

Sat May 07, 2005 1:25 pm

An MVP who averages under 16 points per game just doesn't seem right. I still equate Nash's importance to Stockton's to the Jazz in 1997. I feel he's an MVP by default; besides, there are more factors to the Suns' success than the addition of Nash. Not to say Nash doesn't deserve it at all, but I would have gone with Shaq.

Sat May 07, 2005 1:39 pm

The Suns got 33 more wins then they got last year. If thats not the MVP i dont know what is.

Sat May 07, 2005 1:43 pm

Amare Stoudemire's development continues (at the same rate it had the previous year), Joe Johnson continued to improve, they acquired Quentin Richardson in the offseason and traded players they weren't using for Jim Jackson. Nash isn't exactly toiling alone or making completely terrible players look good.

Sat May 07, 2005 1:48 pm

Forgot to mention Shawn Marion's sudden return to his status quo Andrew :wink:

Sat May 07, 2005 1:52 pm

Indeed I did - Marion had another fine year and while playing with Nash certainly helped, it's not as though Nash made him overachieve.

Sat May 07, 2005 2:12 pm

IMO, he deserves it a lot. He showed that his team needed him and he also showed that he was a good leader. Plus, they made it to the playoffs and I am happy to see him win this award.

I love his teamplay a lot! That's the way basketball is meant to be played.

Sat May 07, 2005 2:48 pm

It's debatable, but i think there's a conceptual issue. MVP is not highest Production, it's Most Valuable. If the MVP was Most Valuable Person, Phil Jackson would have grabbed quite a few without a single point for his leadership & decision making. If the MVP award is really Highest Production, look no farther than KG.

If we should not look at intangibles and just go by raw stats, why is Shaq even a contender? Nowitzki, Amare, Garnett, and Tuncan amass more offensive & defensive stats than Shaq.

If we judge MVP to the player whose presence causes his team to win the most games...it's Nash over Shaq.

http://www.82games.com/0405PHO1.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0405MIA1.HTM

Can't be both ways, either you look at hard stats and give the MVP to Garnett, or you look at Wins & intangibles and give it to Nash. Shaq is in between the two.
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