Julius Hodge NBA stock underrated?
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:50 am
Julius Hodge led North Carolina State to an upset second round victory over UCONN today. he had a huge second half and ended the game with 17 points and 6 assists. He showed amazing floor leadership towards the end of the game and really took the game into his hands made some great passes and scored a game winning 3 point play slashing to the basket with 4 seconds left.
www.nbadraft.net has him listed as a mid-2nd round pick, but i think he has the talent to not only be a 1st rounder, but a top 20 pick.
Now, before you blast me on this, i realize he is not very strong, but his knowledge of how to play the game is outstanding, better then anyone else in the NCAA in my opinion. He has showed his ability to step up huge in big game situations. He is extremely versitale, he played all the positions in todays game (and i have seen him do this in the past too) he can bring the ball up the court, he can post up, he can shoot the three, and he is an outstanding passer.
Anybody else share my opinion on Julius Hodge?
www.nbadraft.net has him listed as a mid-2nd round pick, but i think he has the talent to not only be a 1st rounder, but a top 20 pick.
Now, before you blast me on this, i realize he is not very strong, but his knowledge of how to play the game is outstanding, better then anyone else in the NCAA in my opinion. He has showed his ability to step up huge in big game situations. He is extremely versitale, he played all the positions in todays game (and i have seen him do this in the past too) he can bring the ball up the court, he can post up, he can shoot the three, and he is an outstanding passer.
Anybody else share my opinion on Julius Hodge?
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:12 am
He was a late-first rounder last year, and it would have been better to come out as the ACC Player of the Year.
Basically, the Wolfpack suck this year and Julius is getting a lot of backage for it. His play has been decent but not up to par with last year's.
Funny, his stock has actually risen because of Chris Paul punching him in the nuts, because if that hadn't happend, State wouldn't have played Paul-less(he was suspended) Wake Forest in the ACC Tournament, and it was that win which clinched their NCAA Tournament birth. Had the season ended at that game(or even worse -- the NIT), Hodge probably would've remained a second-rounder.
Basically, the Wolfpack suck this year and Julius is getting a lot of backage for it. His play has been decent but not up to par with last year's.
Funny, his stock has actually risen because of Chris Paul punching him in the nuts, because if that hadn't happend, State wouldn't have played Paul-less(he was suspended) Wake Forest in the ACC Tournament, and it was that win which clinched their NCAA Tournament birth. Had the season ended at that game(or even worse -- the NIT), Hodge probably would've remained a second-rounder.
Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:16 am
You have a really vast knowledge of NCAA hoops GloveGuy, do you prefer the college game over the pros? 
Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:26 am
I must admit, nothing in the NBA compares to March Madness. I see that you don't live in the United States, Jona, so you don't really know how huge of a tradition it is for people to fill out the brackets and compete with their co-workers, family members, etc. Even people who know nothing about basketball take part in it.
I really like what the NCAA stans for, though I see that every year it nears closer to the NBA. It used to be all about college sweatshirts, band songs and school rivalries. Now that the NCAA is a billion dollar market, involving TV deals and Final Four promotions, it's less pure than it used to be.
The way I see it, there's two types of college basketball players. One is actually a vast majority and that's players who play for their school and take pride in the jersey they wear. Then there's the select few who play for the NBA such as Pittsburgh's Chris Taft, Maryland's Nik Caner-Medley, and Memphis's Sean Banks. The irony is that their stock usually ends up dropping because when all that they think of is "NBA, NBA, NBA," their play usually suffers.
I still love the NBA though. The talent level is so much greater than the NCAA. Though I must admit, I'm not really a big fan of Lebron James or even more, guys like Travis Outlaw and Ndubi Ebi, who I'd rather see getting a college education than playing for an NBA team.
I really like what the NCAA stans for, though I see that every year it nears closer to the NBA. It used to be all about college sweatshirts, band songs and school rivalries. Now that the NCAA is a billion dollar market, involving TV deals and Final Four promotions, it's less pure than it used to be.
The way I see it, there's two types of college basketball players. One is actually a vast majority and that's players who play for their school and take pride in the jersey they wear. Then there's the select few who play for the NBA such as Pittsburgh's Chris Taft, Maryland's Nik Caner-Medley, and Memphis's Sean Banks. The irony is that their stock usually ends up dropping because when all that they think of is "NBA, NBA, NBA," their play usually suffers.
I still love the NBA though. The talent level is so much greater than the NCAA. Though I must admit, I'm not really a big fan of Lebron James or even more, guys like Travis Outlaw and Ndubi Ebi, who I'd rather see getting a college education than playing for an NBA team.
Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:51 am
i think NCST has proven they deserved a tourny bid because they beat charolette pretty easily, and they knocked off uconn today.
i see them beating wisconsin as well and advancing to the elite 7. considering how huge of a role julius has had in them getting as far as they have (and in my opinion they are not done) he should be considered a higher draft pick.
i would have no problem if the pacers selected him 14-17 wherever they end up. (that is unless danny graves slips that far.)
i see them beating wisconsin as well and advancing to the elite 7. considering how huge of a role julius has had in them getting as far as they have (and in my opinion they are not done) he should be considered a higher draft pick.
i would have no problem if the pacers selected him 14-17 wherever they end up. (that is unless danny graves slips that far.)
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:37 pm
Julius Hodge has been carrying an average NC State team for a couple of years now, but this is definately the greatest perfomance so far (team-wise).
I think if he wasn't in the ACC he wouldn't been higher on nbadraft.net too.
I think if he wasn't in the ACC he wouldn't been higher on nbadraft.net too.
Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:20 am
The NCAA gets 4 times more viewers than the NBA Finals...
Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:22 am
for the people who dont think he should be a first round pick: if they beat wisconsin, and move on to the elite 8, will you concede he should get a good hard look for a 1st rounder?
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:34 pm
he's a late 1st Rounder IF he blows up at pre-draft camps and beats out the many SG/SF's ahead of him....if he can outplay Antoine Wright, Kennedy Winston and the HSers then he might be able to slip into the late 1st Round....at the moment he's still in the 2nd Round, although the Wolfpack's run might have put him up to an early 2nd Round pick....
if he's good enough then he'll be a 1st rounder....the onus is on him....
it's because the NCAA is better than the NBA
if he's good enough then he'll be a 1st rounder....the onus is on him....
Sit wrote:The NCAA gets 4 times more viewers than the NBA Finals...
it's because the NCAA is better than the NBA
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:59 pm
I know.. it was a random fact but it really shows that the NCAA compared to NBA affects more people...
Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:27 pm
probably due to the fact the players don't get paid to play....
I like it because it is more geared towards team bball and I love the fact that Cinderellas come up out of nowhere and get their chance to shine....I love the fact that Wally Szczerbiak can become Wally World at a mid-major...I love the fact that it's all about school pride....I wish Aussie and Kiwi universities had the same sort of pride that these colleges invoke....the atmosphere at these games is awesome....
I use to just like NBA but the more I watched international and college ball, the more I started to prefer it....
either way, this is NBA talk, so Julius Hodge will not be a 1st Round pick....he will be in the top half of the 2nd Round
I like it because it is more geared towards team bball and I love the fact that Cinderellas come up out of nowhere and get their chance to shine....I love the fact that Wally Szczerbiak can become Wally World at a mid-major...I love the fact that it's all about school pride....I wish Aussie and Kiwi universities had the same sort of pride that these colleges invoke....the atmosphere at these games is awesome....
I use to just like NBA but the more I watched international and college ball, the more I started to prefer it....
either way, this is NBA talk, so Julius Hodge will not be a 1st Round pick....he will be in the top half of the 2nd Round
Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:54 am
Sit wrote:I know.. it was a random fact but it really shows that the NCAA compared to NBA affects more people...
i definitley get more in to the NBA because i am a huge pacers fan (if you havent figured that out yet) but give me the NCAA tournament over the a non-pacers NBA playoff game any day.
plus i love how i get attached to a team during the tournament that im not normally attached to like this year NCST. ive always liked them, but this year ive found myself rooting really hard for them.
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:51 am
Sit wrote:The NCAA gets 4 times more viewers than the NBA Finals...
are you referring to the ncaa tournament? if this is the case, i would say because of the gambling
I know.. it was a random fact but it really shows that the NCAA compared to NBA affects more people.
how so? how is the ncaa 'affecting' people?
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