Kings vs. Suns: bad call on Miller shot

by **John WB** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:21 am

Look at this: http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?c ... &video=pod

Suns had the 2 point lead, and Amare's block on Miller was ruled legit, but you could see on the replay it clearly looks like a goaltend.

by **chaochimac** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:27 am

looks like a clean block 2 me

by **John WB** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:40 am

It's over the rim when he knocked it away. That's a goaltend.

by **Indy** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:40 am

i saw a little bit of that game but i had to leave...

cant tell if its clean or not from that video. my computer runs those so slow its like a webcam.

by **cklitsie** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:58 am

It was a goaltend, he blocked the ball when it already was in the 'imaginary cillinder' above the rim.

by **Chris_23** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:24 am

Geez, that was no goaltending.

Goaltending is when the ball goes down, not up. If its at the peak it isnt a goaltending. It was a fair call and wrong play by Miller who should have tried more than just play a sissy knowing that three suns are right next to him.

I mean come on, the guy is in the left side down below and he bends to try and shoot the ball in front og the basket and not side or off the backboard.

He'll learn from his mistakes, and that was a fair block.

by **chaochimac** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:28 am

Chris_23 wrote:Geez, that was no goaltending.

Goaltending is when the ball goes down, not up. If its at the peak it isnt a goaltending. It was a fair call and wrong play by Miller who should have tried more than just play a sissy knowing that three suns are right next to him.

I mean come on, the guy is in the left side down below and he bends to try and shoot the ball in front og the basket and not side or off the backboard.

He'll learn from his mistakes, and that was a fair block.

by **Fresh8** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:14 am

Props to Cat Mobley for defending his teammates.. he ahd a different arguement. The block was a clean block but Cat said something bout C Webb being held onto so that Amare could get to miller or something.. can someone clarify this?

by **paradizecityz** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:13 am

Chris_23 wrote:Geez, that was no goaltending.

Goaltending is when the ball goes down, not up. If its at the peak it isnt a goaltending. It was a fair call and wrong play by Miller who should have tried more than just play a sissy knowing that three suns are right next to him.

I mean come on, the guy is in the left side down below and he bends to try and shoot the ball in front og the basket and not side or off the backboard.

He'll learn from his mistakes, and that was a fair block.

u did know he had to just throw it up, i dont think he play it sissy, if you look at the time on the clock and when he shot it, he didnt have much time, if he had few more secs, i would think he try to dunk it

by **Alvin** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:54 am

i think it's on its way down...

by **Drex** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:40 pm

But you can't block a ball if it's in the "imaginary cilinder" above the rim. Doesn't matter if it's going up o down. That's a goaltending, too.
After I said that, it was a great block (Y)

by **Guest** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:42 pm

It was a good call, Clean block (Y)

by **Drex** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:35 pm

Say goodbye to R3MO :wave:

by **Wormy10** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:13 pm

Bye

Cough Goaltending Cough

Its either on its way down or in the "imaginary cylinder" either one can work
I believe he had plently of time to get a dunk off

by **John WB** on Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:15 pm

Clean blocks are blocks that have no way of going in and the player knocks the ball pretty much as soon as it leaves your hands or pretty early in the shot, not as it's already reach its arc.

by **dsigns** on Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:06 am

Clean block. The ball was still going up. In the end, the person to blame is soft Miller. Dunk the ball next time.

And in response to mobley, if you watch that video Marion is being pushed to the floor by webber, marion wasnt holding him. I must say Mobley fits in with the kings perfectly...already a whiner.

by **Yessie** on Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:09 am

stop crying suns won and the queens loss. :roll:

by **paradizecityz** on Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:15 am

Yessie wrote:stop crying suns won and the queens loss.

haha, i remember that statement, "Sacramento Queens"
sorry if ur a Sac fan but for some reason, i dont like Sac anymore, i use to love them bak then when they had Jason Williams but ever since he got traded, i dont like them anymore even though they are a better team than that old Sac team....

by **cklitsie** on Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:34 am

Just to get it clear for all of you, it wasn't a clean block. What I mentioned about the 'imaginary cillinder' is true.

In the NBA they have this rule and the one where you can't touch it after it has reached his highest point.
In Europe we don't have the first rule with the cillinder above the rim, I even read an article from players on the US olympic team, they had to get used to the rule difference.

by **dsigns** on Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:38 am

http://www.hickoksports.com/glossary/gbasketball.shtml wrote:Interfering with a shot while it is on its downward flight toward the basket, while it is on its upward flight toward the basket after having touched the backboard, or while it is in the cylinder above the rim. If committed by a defensive player, the shot counts. If committed by an offense player, it is a violation and the ball is awarded to the opposing team for a throw-in.

Not highest point...when its going down. Clean block.

by **kevC** on Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:01 am

http://www.hickoksports.com/glossary/gbasketball.shtml wrote:Interfering with a shot while it is on its downward flight toward the basket, while it is on its upward flight toward the basket after having touched the backboard, or while it is in the cylinder above the rim. If committed by a defensive player, the shot counts. If committed by an offense player, it is a violation and the ball is awarded to the opposing team for a throw-in.

It's a goaltend.