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Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:50 pm

I guess so. No one's complaining about him this season though.

He's been one of my favourite NBA players for ages (Y)

Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:04 pm

Jae™ wrote:I guess so. No one's complaining about him this season though.

He's been one of my favourite NBA players for ages (Y)


Yeah, he's awesome!

Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:00 pm

Tim Duncan and LeBron James, easily. LeBron's probably the least criticised of the two as the only real criticism I've ever read is of his shooting percentages, but those are vastly improved this year. Duncan's free throw shooting usually draws a mention but he's more often criticised by fans for his style of play. In any event, both have avoided harsh criticism thus far.

Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:11 am

what about David Robinson?

Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:14 am

John Stockton- only problem with him is his unselfishness

Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:15 am

Matt wrote:John Stockton- only problem with him is his unselfishness


and his shorts....thats his biggest problem.

Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:27 am

Najira wrote:what about David Robinson?


Oh man, as classy as that cat was he most definitely faced his share of criticism. Most of it revolved around being soft and not leading the team. He was also criticized for going for 70 points on the last game of the season to lock down the scoring title. THEN, there was his MVP season when he got DESTROYED by Hakeem the Dream in the playoffs....

Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:34 am

Dre Naismith wrote:
Jae™ wrote:Dirk Nowitzki.


Well, as far as personality goes, no. But in terms of basketball there's been plenty of criticism about being being _irk instead of Dirk on the defensive end and some have called him soft.....

Personally, I love the guy.


Not much to question about his defense this year, he really stepped it up in evert category.

Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:10 pm

lebron james
jason kidd. ok he can't shoot then there was the domestic violence thing. but still- he has good kharma or something

Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:27 am

THEN, there was his MVP season when he got DESTROYED by Hakeem the Dream in the playoffs....


every center in the 90's have had their share of getting their ass handed to them by hakeem -- robinson, o'neal, longley ( :lol: ), ewing.. oh man the list can go on. btw can you elaborate on robinson's 70 pt game and how he got criticized

Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:01 pm

Dre Naismith wrote:
Jae™ wrote:Dirk Nowitzki.


Well, as far as personality goes, no. But in terms of basketball there's been plenty of criticism about being being _irk instead of Dirk on the defensive end and some have called him soft.....

Personally, I love the guy.


What's it with Dallas players and the missing letter of a name thing? Irk Nowitzki no D(efense) and Ason Kidd no J(umpshot) a few years back....
how about Mark Cuan no B(rain)?

Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:33 pm

btw can you elaborate on robinson's 70 pt game and how he got criticized

Sure..
Going into the final day on the 94 season, robinson was averaging 29.26 ppg, and shaq had 29.31 ppg. Shaq scored 32 points, and robinson would play at the clippers later that night. He ended up scoring 71, but he coped alot of critiscism becuase it was felt that he was out there playing for stats, which was comeplete bullshit. all robinson needed was roughly 36 points. He ended up with nearly double. it was just an easy way to take shots at david robinson. he had a remarkable game, yet the media found a way to criticise him for it.

Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:55 pm

if you achieve star status, you are going to be criticized. i don't think anyone can come up with the right answer here. but good for discussion.

Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:18 pm

im sure robinson did want to take the title in the final game of the season. I mean u just dont score 71 on any given night. It was probably an incentive that night.

I just thought of a new player. John Stockton. besides not winning a title no one critsized him at all. I would have said malone too if it wans't for his last season with the lakers.

Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:04 pm

Matt wrote:John Stockton- only problem with him is his unselfishness



You are a winner, not. Someone already mentioned Stockton.

Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:09 pm

Dre Naismith wrote:
Najira wrote:what about David Robinson?


Oh man, as classy as that cat was he most definitely faced his share of criticism. Most of it revolved around being soft and not leading the team. He was also criticized for going for 70 points on the last game of the season to lock down the scoring title. THEN, there was his MVP season when he got DESTROYED by Hakeem the Dream in the playoffs....


Hey I was like 5 years old and only knew Jordan from watching him in that cartoon series with Gretsky and Bo Jackson, 'All-Stars' was the name I think.

Hmm what about Magic Johnson, cant say anything bad about him now can u...or did some screwball somewhere criticise him for being too talented :roll:

Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:21 pm

Najira wrote:Hmm what about Magic Johnson, cant say anything bad about him now can u...or did some screwball somewhere criticise him for being too talented :roll:


nope, even magic got criticized . . .

Johnson and the Lakers rebounded in 1981-82, winning their division and defeating the 76ers in another six-game NBA Finals in which Johnson repeated as MVP. The season also had its share of ugliness. Early on, Westhead wanted to restructure the offense in a way that Johnson believed would have reduced his role. In a widely reported incident, Johnson exploded in the lockerroom after a game in Utah. "I can't play here anymore. I want to leave. I want to be traded," he was quoted as saying. Reporters waited for the signal that Johnson was joking. It didn't come.

Westhead was fired the next day and replaced with assistant coach Pat Riley. At Riley's first home game, fans at the Forum booed Johnson during introductions. In Seattle he was jeered whenever he touched the ball. He paid the price in the All-Star balloting and was not selected as a starter for the only time in his career other than his injury season. It took Johnson's stellar playoff performance to silence the hecklers.

Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:25 pm

magic is criticized pretty highly for that whole cheating on his wife and contracting aids from a gay man thing, too :wink:
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