Vanessa Bryant -- Reason for Malone's departure?

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It is alleged that on November 23, the night the Lakers played the Bucks at Staples Center, Vanessa Bryant was talking on the phone to Malone's wife, Kaye. Kaye gave Vanessa her husband's cellphone number, and Vanessa called Malone, who was sitting at courtside and invited Malone's child to join her.

Malone, wearing cowboy boots and a hat, eventually took the child to Vanessa.

Malone hugged Vanessa, and then Vanessa asked — as Manley recounts this part of the story — "Hey, cowboy, what are you hunting?"

"She said it twice," Manley said, "and Karl answered the second time, 'I'm hunting for little Mexican girls.' "

December 12, 2004

T.J. Simers:

The Soap Opera Behind Bryant-Malone Drama

I'm going to write two words here, and while they might disgust you, I'm going to ask you not to immediately crumple your newspaper and throw it across the room.

OK, here goes: Kobe Bryant.

There's almost nothing you can say these days as it relates to the Lakers without drawing a line in the stands between the Kobe lovers and the Kobe haters, and now here's more fodder to ponder.

Both Bryant and Karl Malone — speaking through his agent, Dwight Manley — confirmed Saturday night that they had a major falling out involving Bryant's wife, Vanessa, two weeks before the Bryant radio interview that had supposedly ticked off Malone so much.

Before Saturday night's game with the Clippers, Bryant listened as I relayed the story that's going around town, and when I finished, he said, that's true.

On Nov. 23, the night the Lakers played the Bucks at Staples Center, Vanessa was talking on the phone to Malone's wife, Kaye. Kaye gave Vanessa her husband's cellphone number, and Vanessa called Malone, who was sitting at courtside, and invited Malone's child to join her.

Malone, wearing cowboy boots and a hat, eventually took the child to Vanessa.

Malone hugged Vanessa, and then Vanessa asked — as Manley recounts this part of the story — "Hey, cowboy, what are you hunting?"

"She said it twice," Manley said, "and Karl answered the second time, 'I'm hunting for little Mexican girls.' "

After the game Vanessa told Bryant that Malone had come on to her, and said several inappropriate things. She also told Bryant that she had called Malone's wife and asked Kaye to get her husband away from her.

Bryant called Malone on his cellphone after the game, and Bryant laid into Malone. Bryant said Malone didn't have much to say in return and didn't deny anything.

What's a husband supposed to do when your wife tells you something like that? Bryant wanted to know as we talked.

Bryant said he was uncomfortable discussing the incident and he would have preferred to keep it quiet, but the New York Post reported this week that Malone was seen giving Vanessa a big hug, and then "somehow Malone managed to cross Vanessa" and got on her "frosty side."


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AFTER I talked to Bryant, I relayed the same story to Manley and asked for the opportunity to talk to Malone and hear his version.

"Karl wants me to give you two messages," Manley said after calling Malone. "He never hit on Vanessa, nor would he…. In fact, when he first heard about [the accusation], he said, 'You have to be kidding me.'

"As for the comments he made to her that offended her personally, he told both her and Kobe that night that he apologized."

Manley said that after Malone apologized, "Kobe followed that with a string of threats."

Bryant said he was upset but he said that he made no threats and was only coming to the defense of his wife, and that he told Malone to stay away from his wife.

Bryant said when he did the radio interview with XTRA (690/1150) he never mentioned anything about the simmering feud between the two because he didn't want to take personal shots at Malone.

Manley said Bryant called the Malone home the next day with more threats, and that Malone's wife listened in on a speaker phone.

Bryant said that both he and his wife called the Malones the next day in an attempt to work things out but failed.

The Bryants' second-day phone call and continuing accusations infuriated Malone and that led him to effectively end his relationship with the Lakers. The subsequent radio interview with XTRA allowed the rift between the two to go public without any mention of the soap opera — until now.


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KOBE BRYANT.

The other day those two words came up while the daughter and I were speaking at the all-girls Marlborough School, and when Miss Radio Personality heard them, she said, "I hate Kobe Bryant."

Many of the athletes in the room — ranging from seventh to 12th grade — began standing, cheering and applauding, which made it difficult to hear me when I told them Miss Radio Personality had no idea what she was talking about.

It's becoming tougher and tougher to defend Bryant — even in my own home.

I told Bryant right now in the estimation of many folks he's the "rat's behind of the world," although I don't think I used the word "behind," and that he appears to be losing ground in a city he once owned.

"I know," he said. "I've got to get out there with people more. I will. I'm loosening up, and I'll get better. I know what I've got to do."

I know this. He's got a lot to do if he's going to ever change the mind of Miss Radio Personality.

Osama Bean Bryant

Here's photos of Karla the night of the game:

dont know about you guys, but that totally sounds bogus to me.. if it were true however, karl sure as hell needs to work on his pick up lines

thats total bullshit, we all know malone's true love is stockton and he would never cheat on him.

^^^

It's weird how this is only coming out now, a few days past the initial clash. From what we know about Karl Malone, it seems completely out of character. Mind you, isn't that what we've been saying about Kobe since learning that he committed adultery? I guess we'll have to wait for more details to surface.

lmao...

Looks like Kobe couldn't stay out of the limelight even if he wanted to. You'd think he would wanna lay low after everything. Oh well.

Karl is recovering from knee surgery... so it's ok for him to committ adultery. Really!

who knows maybe Vanessa's just tryin to piss off Kobe for humpin the colorado teen by saying an old man is interested in her.

Malone does look fishy in the cowboy hat but I really dont think after 20+ years of being known as one of the most respectable figures in basketball that he would hit on a girl half his age specially when his own daughter is practically the same age.....

Kobe's just trying to make some other star b-ballers life harder by accusing him of stuff....I guess he choose Malone because hes old and not gonna give him a black eye.

What happend to Kobe, I really liked him but now hes just becoming the Rodman of this decade.

I'd have to agree with your point mate.

I personally always felt people have thought karl malone as a dirty player. In the form of elbows and knees going everywhere and stuff like that.


I don;t know if the story is true or not, but it would explain alot of the personal attacks. I'm waivering to vanessa's side though.

What happend to Kobe, I really liked him but now hes just becoming the Rodman of this decade.

Uhm...let's wait and see. I don't think Kobe or his wife would make up this sort of things...I don't see what they could get out of it.

Let's not forget that Malone was Bryant "best ally" last season. Then suddenly Kobe starts criticizing his uncertainties on a comeback, and then tells the media he's after his wife???

uhm...let me have tons of doubts here. Maybe Malone did say those things but he didn't mean it that way (?)...but Kobe is not making up things...IMO.

furthermore, if malone didn't do anything at all...well, if I was him I would sue Bryant for bad publicity or something.....things like this can start a crisis in a marriage (that of Malone and his wife)...so I would be really pissed off...

What happend to Kobe, I really liked him but now hes just becoming the Rodman of this decade.

Uhm...let's wait and see. I don't think Kobe or his wife would make up this sort of things...I don't see what they could get out of it.

Let's not forget that Malone was Bryant "best ally" last season. Then suddenly Kobe starts criticizing his uncertainties on a comeback, and then tells the media he's after his wife???

uhm...let me have tons of doubts here. Maybe Malone did say those things but he didn't mean it that way (?)...but Kobe is not making up things...IMO.

furthermore, if malone didn't do anything at all...well, if I was him I would sue Bryant for bad publicity or something.....things like this can start a crisis in a marriage (that of Malone and his wife)...so I would be really pissed off...

and u didnt think Kobe would ever have sex with a teenager???....I dunno but maybe Karl ment little mexican girls as in....cowboys love shooting down Mexicans(on the history scale)....but hey Im not all mad at Kobe.....I still like him but not as much as I did....Im sure theirs gonna be a big case goin on and some bullets may start flyin...who knows maybe Malone will send John Stockton to seduce Kobe

who knows maybe Malone will send John Stockton to seduce Kobe

More on this...it looks like there has been much more than just an awkward sentence

Sunday, December 12, 2004


ESPN.com news services
The Kobe Bryant-Karl Malone feud has turned personal, with Bryant accusing Malone of making a pass at his wife at a Lakers game.


Rob Pelinka, the agent for Bryant, told ESPN.com on Sunday night that Malone made "several inappropriate comments" to Bryant's wife, Vanessa, on Nov. 23 at a Los Angeles Lakers home game against the Milwaukee Bucks.


"Kobe and Karl had a true friendship, much more than teammates," Pelinka said. "Their wives are quite friendly as well. Kobe has told me that he feels very hurt and betrayed by what has happened."


Bryant said to reporters before Sunday night's game against Orlando, "The comments that [Malone] said, I don't know any man in this room that wouldn't be upset about that. The past month, myself, my wife, [Malone's wife] Kaye, we've had fun together. We've been out to their house, just joking around, giving each other a hard time, just clowning, being sarcastic with one another, baby-sitting kids and all that."


Asked if there could have been a misunderstanding, Bryant said, "What he said is what he said. I believe in my heart that it wasn't a misunderstanding. My wife wasn't going to stand for it. She felt uncomfortable being around him to the point that she felt she had to call his wife and tell her."


Bryant said Malone didn't deny making the comments and told him during their phone conversation, "Aw, you know, I'm sorry if I said anything that was out of line." Added Bryant, "He was like a mentor, like a brother to me, so when something like that happens, you're upset, you're hurt."


Malone was not available for comment Sunday. Malone's agent, Dwight Manley, told the Los Angeles Times on Sunday that Malone was asked by Vanessa Bryant, "Hey, cowboy, what are you hunting?" in reference to Malone wearing a cowboy hat and boots.


"She said it twice," Manley said, "and Karl answered, 'I'm hunting for little Mexican girls.' "


Malone was not available for comment Sunday, but Manley said Malone told him he had never made a pass at Bryant's wife, that he was surprised by the accusation, and that he then apologized to both Bryant and his wife for any remarks she might have considered inappropriate.


"Karl's response to Kobe's comments today is that he's a basketball player and not a soap opera actor and he doesn't intend to be involved in a personal soap opera," Manley said of his client.


Pelinka, who works for SFX and has been Bryant's agent for four years, said he was told what transpired last month by Kobe and Vanessa Bryant.


"Karl and his son were at the game sitting in the front row," Pelinka said. "Vanessa was on the cell phone talking to Karl's wife, Kaye, and Vanessa said that her son looked bored. Kaye told her to call Karl to have her son join her in her seats. Kaye gave Vanessa Karl's cell number and she called him. When she called, Karl's response was, 'Why don't you come over here and sit next to me and give me a big hug?' Vanessa said, 'Why? For what?' And Karl replied, 'If you do that it will be on the cover of every magazine in the country.'


"Vanessa didn't know what to say because this was the first time she had ever spoken to Malone without Kobe or Kaye being around. Karl continued. 'Do you like me?' Malone asked her, to which Vanessa said, 'As my friend, Kaye's husband,' " Pelinka said.


"From there Malone asked Vanessa if she could keep a secret, and that he would like to tell her something. At which point Vanessa told him she was a married woman and he was a married man who was old enough to be her father. To which Malone replied, 'Oh, like your daddy?' At that point she told me she ended the conversation," Pelinka said.


In the second half of the game, Malone sent his son to sit with the Bryants.


"Vanessa told me that she just was very uncomfortable at halftime and that Karl was acting and saying weird things." said Pelinka. "When the game ended, Vanessa walked Malone's son back to Karl. She told me that she asked Malone why he was wearing that [cowboy] hat. His response was, 'I'm hunting for young Mexican girls.' At which point Vanessa just walked away."


On the car ride home, Vanessa Bryant told Kobe what had happened. Vanessa decided to call Kaye Malone and tell her about the way her husband had spoken to her. After they hung up, Kobe Bryant called Karl Malone on his cell phone.


"Kobe told me that Karl just listened and didn't deny any of it. Kobe said Karl's only reply was, 'You know me, man.' To which Kobe told him, 'That's right, I do know you -- and stay away from my wife,' " said Pelinka. "The next day, with all four of them on the phone, Karl denied it. At that point the Bryants knew that there was nothing left to talk about since they knew Karl wasn't telling the truth. Vanessa told me that she told Kaye that she wanted her to know 'just exactly what your husband did and you do what you want with the information.' "


Last week Bryant said in a radio interview on XTRA that it was his intuition that Malone would retire. That comment led Malone to reply that he did not want to be a distraction to the Lakers and blamed Bryant for the rift.


According to Bryant, Malone told him before the season started that he was going to retire and spend more time with his family. Bryant said that Malone asked him not to speak publicly about his decision. Malone has been recovering from knee surgery and had told the Lakers that if he was going to return to play it would be with them.

"From there Malone asked Vanessa if she could keep a secret, and that he would like to tell her something. At which point Vanessa told him she was a married woman and he was a married man who was old enough to be her father. To which Malone replied, 'Oh, like your daddy?' At that point she told me she ended the conversation," Pelinka said.

That was disturbing but also terribly funny.....geez Malone will never get Vanessa if he uses lines like that..

cmon Mailman, give her a drink slip some aphrodisiac(spellcheck) and then shes all yours old man.

But yeah on the serious side....I dunno this is some wacky shit, NBA's having a season full of turmoil....first the Ron Rap album, then the Pistons-Pacers brawl and now a showdown between one of the NBA's greatest and The biggest name next to Shaq in the basketballing world.

Sad sad, It feels good to be a Spurs fan abt now.....no crazy shit happenin with them...

I don't get the "little mexican girls" comment . Could somebody explain that to me? Is Vannessa Bryant mexican?

I think she's half mexican and half american, like 20% of people living in LA

Vanessa isn't Mexican.

Vanessa isn't Mexican.

As I said, Vanessa Bryant IS half mexican and half american, actually irish..but she was born in Huntington, CA (even Malone knows it... ):

Birth Name: Vanessa Cornejo Urbieta Laine
Occupation: Actress, Model
Born: May 5, 1982

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well well if it isnt Donatello's good pal Bestclubowner

LOL NICEE

lol wtf